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What was the last CLASSIC COVER as noted by Overstreet?

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Mr 9.8

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Too me they are. :cloud9:

 

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But I think "classic" implies that most collectors think a book is highly desirable based on a cover.

 

I have a whole list of covers that I consider "classic" that others probably have never thought of as anything special. That's part of the fun of collecting!

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rjpb

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It takes time for a cover to be considered classic - how much is arbitrary - but I would think the Copper Age is far enough in the past for there to be plenty of candidates - so it seems laziness or bias that there may be none listed. Though I will admit - nothing from the 80's comes immediately to mind, except maybe DKR #1.

 

While most OSPG "classic" cover designations reflect a general consensus - there are some less universally acknowledged ones listed as well - and likely more than a few that would fit most collectors' definition of the term but are not cited as such by Overstreet. And then we all have our personal "classics" as well.

 

I think the the only real criteria is a cover with excellent examples of iconic, outrageous or particularly striking imagery.

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Can't help you with that, but I do have one of the earliest Overstreet Classic Covers.

 

Thrilling Comics # 7, August 1940 (Classic Schomburg cover and his first cover for Nedor/Standard.)

 

I know this doesn't help answer your question, its just another opportunity to show off one of my favorite books. :P

 

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Not to put down a beautiful and desirable book, but exactly what makes this a classic cover, over any other book from the period?

 

In my way of thinking, a classic cover would be one that was the first of a "theme" that was used by artists through the decades. That is the diffinition I would use.

 

Nice book, but I honestly don't understand how that one gets classic designation? Apparently the GA community considers it classic?

 

"Classic" is only a useful designation to the extent that collectors generally agree that a cover is somehow iconic or unusually outstanding. Obviously that can be subjective, and I don't think anyone thinks Overstreet has a great handle on what to classify. Ideally I think the designation would be market driven. If a book clearly demands a significant premium based on nothing other than the cover...well, that would be a "classic cover."

 

But there's no system to figure this out.

 

No, this one is probably one of the least known of the Overstreet "Classic Covers". Its rarity actually keeps it from being better known and more desired. Its on people's want lists, but its a tough, tough book to find.

 

Unlike Bronze or Copper Age books, a book like this is truly "rare" in any grade. Only five copies exist on the census, and besides the Mile High 9.6, no other copies but my own has graded higher then Fine.

 

As for the asethetics of the cover, you have to judge the cover in the context of its contemporaries, not through the eyes of someone who has collected Coppers, Moderns, etc. Compared to most other covers from the era, this one is a classic, with great detail work by Schomburg in the clothes of the antagonist, the face of the damsel pilot, and even the background of the fields below. Then add in the shock/suspense in the mind of the reader at the impending gory "explosion" as the skull guy is just a microsecond away from impacting against the propeller, and you have all the makings of a pretty unique cover for its time.

 

 

 

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JohnT

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Can't help you with that, but I do have one of the earliest Overstreet Classic Covers.

 

Thrilling Comics # 7, August 1940 (Classic Schomburg cover and his first cover for Nedor/Standard.)

 

I know this doesn't help answer your question, its just another opportunity to show off one of my favorite books. :P

 

ThrillingComics7cgc90f.jpg

 

Not to put down a beautiful and desirable book, but exactly what makes this a classic cover, over any other book from the period?

 

In my way of thinking, a classic cover would be one that was the first of a "theme" that was used by artists through the decades. That is the diffinition I would use.

 

Nice book, but I honestly don't understand how that one gets classic designation? Apparently the GA community considers it classic?

 

"Classic" is only a useful designation to the extent that collectors generally agree that a cover is somehow iconic or unusually outstanding. Obviously that can be subjective, and I don't think anyone thinks Overstreet has a great handle on what to classify. Ideally I think the designation would be market driven. If a book clearly demands a significant premium based on nothing other than the cover...well, that would be a "classic cover."

 

But there's no system to figure this out.

 

No, this one is probably one of the least known of the Overstreet "Classic Covers". Its rarity actually keeps it from being better known and more desired. Its on people's want lists, but its a tough, tough book to find.

 

Unlike Bronze or Copper Age books, a book like this is truly "rare" in any grade. Only five copies exist on the census, and besides the Mile High 9.6, no other copies but my own has graded higher then Fine.

 

As for the asethetics of the cover, you have to judge the cover in the context of its contemporaries, not through the eyes of someone who has collected Coppers, Moderns, etc. Compared to most other covers from the era, this one is a classic, with great detail work by Schomburg in the clothes of the antagonist, the face of the damsel pilot, and even the background of the fields below. Then add in the shock/suspense in the mind of the reader at the impending gory "explosion" as the skull guy is just a microsecond away from impacting against the propeller, and you have all the makings of a pretty unique cover for its time.

 

 

 

Just looks like some guy punching another guy? (shrug)

 

No headlights, no Hitler, nothing special in my book. I prefer all five of the covers in your signature to this one. I'm not trying to be rude here. But I can usually look at an acknowledged "classic" cover--as this one clearly is based on Overstreet--and spot what it is that makes the cover shine. But this one just has me stumped.

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JohnT

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im not sure if this is one but it 100% SHOULD BE!!!

 

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I agree this one is classic. I think it's value is largely based on the cover (yes it's the first Kingpin, but that doesn't seem to warrant the extra value of this book).

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dekeuk

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I notice Overstreet often notes mostly non-key books as having classic covers.

 

For example, Detective #27 is not noted as a classic cover, as it does not need any more promotion by Overstreet.

 

But Detective #31 is noted as a classic cover.

 

Quite often the only thing special about a "classic cover" book is the cover itself. 2c

 

 

 

 

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Mr 9.8

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Can't really help with the OP's question nor do I know how they decided on which covers to call classic. Here are 2 that I own that CGC notes as classic.

 

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That's a classic cover?
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HighVoltage

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Can't help you with that, but I do have one of the earliest Overstreet Classic Covers.

 

Thrilling Comics # 7, August 1940 (Classic Schomburg cover and his first cover for Nedor/Standard.)

 

I know this doesn't help answer your question, its just another opportunity to show off one of my favorite books. :P

 

ThrillingComics7cgc90f.jpg

 

This is a beautiful book to be sure and a sweet cover... but not even noted by CGC as a Schomburg cover... or a 'classic cover' notation. CGC being lazy or uninformed or inconsistent?

 

I look at a classic cover as something that a majority of people agree upon in conversation as, "Yeah - *that* is a cool cover!" Also something outstanding by an outstanding artist or the subject matter on the cover sparks conversation & debate. Schomburg fills the bill many times over - in fact, what artist has the most noted 'classic covers?'

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hockey&comicsguy

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That's a classic cover?

 

Yup. Funny thing is I think I have seen slabs that say "classic cover" and "classic molten metal cover". I could be wrong about that though and maybe just Overstreet specifically states "molten metal" or something.

 

Here's one that sold @ Heritage

 

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Chespirito

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Then you get into the classic cover swipes.

 

I love swipes! Are any Adams' Bat covers considered 'Classic' ?

 

Not by Bob Overstreet.

 

But I would put TEC #400 and Bats #232 and #251 at the top of any classic covers list.

 

Bats #227 does not qualify as it is a "swipe"

251 and 227 .... :cloud9: :cloud9: :cloud9: :cloud9: :cloud9: :cloud9: :cloud9::gossip:

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Heres a couple that come to my mind.

 

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