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Frazetta steals from Frazetta

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rednalsram

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Does anyone know about a candle light vigil that is supposedly planned for tomorrow, to

be adjacent to the Frazetta Estate?

 

I posted the website that has all the info for this yesterday, but it got yanked from

the General forum very quick. I have no idea if I violated anything by posting that,

so I won't post the link here.

 

Just curious if anyone has any info about the vigil, that is all.

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AtlasFan

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Does anyone know about a candle light vigil that is supposedly planned for tomorrow, to

be adjacent to the Frazetta Estate?

 

I posted the website that has all the info for this yesterday, but it got yanked from

the General forum very quick. I have no idea if I violated anything by posting that,

so I won't post the link here.

 

Just curious if anyone has any info about the vigil, that is all.

 

I posted a linkl to that ghostly site as well, but it was yanked quicker than grandpa's last loose tooth.,.. Because, I can only speculate, that it puts a couple of "friends of CGC" in a bad light.

 

Fans may want to know about the vigil...

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Does anyone know about a candle light vigil that is supposedly planned for tomorrow, to

be adjacent to the Frazetta Estate?

 

I posted the website that has all the info for this yesterday, but it got yanked from

the General forum very quick. I have no idea if I violated anything by posting that,

so I won't post the link here.

 

Just curious if anyone has any info about the vigil, that is all.

 

I posted a linkl to that ghostly site as well, but it was yanked quicker than grandpa's last loose tooth.,.. Because, I can only speculate, that it puts a couple of "friends of CGC" in a bad light.

 

Fans may want to know about the vigil...

 

 

Judging by Frank Sr's own words...I think we can cancel the vigil for his safe return.

 

Interview with Frank Frazetta Sr.

 

My son's 'gone haywire'

Artist Frank Frazetta gives first interview since his son was charged with breaking into the family's Marshalls Creek museum

By HOWARD FRANK

Pocono Record Writer

March 26, 2010 12:00 AM

 

World-renowned artist Frank Frazetta Sr. spoke publicly for the first time since his family feud went public in December 2009 — and he's mad.

 

Mad at the son who's charged with trying to steal $20 million worth of his paintings — his life's work. Frank Sr. said he never gave Frank Frazetta Jr. permission to take his paintings.

 

In a exclusive interview with the Pocono Record, Frank Sr. talked Tuesday from his home in Boca Grande, an island off the southwest coast of Florida. Despite claims to the contrary, he was lucid and feisty — just what you'd expect from an 82-year-old Italian grandfather from Brooklyn.

 

And Frank Sr. got personal.

 

"My son is an alien," he said. "There's no telling what he'll do. He's been like that for, I don't know, how many years. We played baseball in the old days. He always chose the opposite side from me."

 

He spoke freely, in an unguarded manner. But not a previous stroke nor his thick New York City accent could conceal his anger over the entire affair.

 

Frank Frazetta Sr. is one of the world's best known fantasy artists — his artwork has adorned record albums, movie posters, novels and comic books. His style and sword-and-sorcery themes make his work instantly recognizable.

 

And until recently he's called the Poconos his home, living on a Marshalls Creek estate that includes a museum of the artist's work and a home owned by his oldest son and his family.

 

Alfonso Frank Frazetta, known as Frank Jr., was arrested in December after police discovered he'd allegedly broken into the family museum using a backhoe and removed about 90 works of art painted by his father.

 

Frank Jr., wearing a ski mask at the time of his arrest, said he had his father's permission to protect the art from other family members. Frank Jr. has three siblings: Bill Frazetta of Stroudsburg, owner of Frazetta's Fantasy Costumes in East Stroudsburg, and Heidi Grabin and Holly Frazetta of Florida. At 52, Frank Jr. is the eldest, and has been feuding with his three siblings since their mother died in 2009.

 

Despite Frank Jr.'s claims that his father gave the go-ahead to secure the paintings, prosecutors have said that decisions regarding the artwork were the legal responsibility of Frank Jr.'s other three siblings exclusively.

 

According to family attorneys, the paintings belong to a corporation called Frazetta Properties LLC, of which Bill Frazetta and his two sisters share sole management. The LLC is owned by Frank Sr., and was formed for estate planning purposes.

 

'That's just a lie'

 

At the heart of the criminal case against Frank Jr. is whether his father ever gave his son the OK to secure the artwork by any means necessary, as Frank Jr. claimed.

 

"None whatsoever. I certainly didn't. Absolutely not. That's just a lie that's been passed around," Frank Sr. about the question of permission.

 

And when the artist was asked if he ever told a Marshalls Creek notary he wanted Frank Jr. to protect his paintings because his other kids were trying to steal from him, as Frank Jr. claimed, Frank Sr. said, "Oh God. Oh my God. No."

 

The break-in at the museum happened just a few days after Frank Sr. left Pennsylvania to stay at his Florida home in early December 2009. Frank Sr. reacted with disgust to the museum break-in.

 

"Right through the door. He broke it. My God. As soon as he thought I was gone, he crashed the place," he said.

 

Frank Sr. said he didn't understand why his son thought he had permission to take his paintings. But he doesn't think Frank Jr. was acting in his best interests, as the son has claimed.

 

"No, absolutely not. I don't know what the hell he was doing," Frank Sr. said.

 

Frank Jr. and his wife, Lori Frazetta, have claimed Frank Sr. was being controlled by the other three siblings, and held against his will in Florida.

 

Frank Sr. denied the accusation.

 

"I'm in my own home," he said. "I'm the only one who lives here. Yes, absolutely I'm under my own free will. My daughters don't tell me what to do. I'm a man of my own word."

 

Frank Jr. awaits trial in Monroe County Court on charges of burglary, theft by unlawful taking and criminal trespass. But with his son's fate in the balance, Frank Sr. only wishes for one thing: "I would like to see them all shut up and be pals like they once were."

 

Frank Jr. is free on $50,000 bail with the stipulation that he not discuss the case or any of the family feud with his father. But if the senior Frazetta could say one thing to his son, what would it be?

 

"I'd send a cease and desist. He's got one of my paintings. No name, a pretty girl running on a sandy beach. He took it from the house. It really was unfinished," Frank Sr. said.

 

'What does he think — I'm dead?'

 

Frank Sr. spends his days going to ball games, enjoying his surroundings and spending time with his family. "I like it here. It's beautiful," he said.

 

And he still paints — he's got a bunch of paintings he started but never finished. But he also reads. And he's become aware of many of the accusations Frank Jr.'s made against his children. He'd like to straighten that out.

"Don't you believe anything he tells you. He's full of beans. He wants to run the museum by himself. He wants the whole thing to himself. What does he think — I'm dead? He's really gone, he's gone haywire," Frank Sr. said.

He also believes the feud has left a blotch on his reputation as an artist.

 

"As a matter of fact, I do. I really do. My daughters are both upset. I can't even face it. I don't know what the heck is going on. It's insane. Nothing more nothing less," he said.

 

In response, Lori Frazetta, wife of Frank Frazetta Jr. said, "We are confident the truth will be revealed, and we are looking forward to the safe return of Frank Sr., back to Pa. soon."

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Well, I'm glad we finally got to hear from Frank himself (provided he's not a victim of brainwashing)...still though, it seems there is probably much more to the story than is being revealed.

 

Really? Brainwashing? What is this, 1953? His son sounds like he might have an unfortunate addiction... end of conspiracy.

 

Dan

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Well, I'm glad we finally got to hear from Frank himself (provided he's not a victim of brainwashing)...still though, it seems there is probably much more to the story than is being revealed.

 

Really? Brainwashing? What is this, 1953? His son sounds like he might have an unfortunate addiction... end of conspiracy.

 

Dan

 

Ever see the movie THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE? (and I mean the original with Laurence Harvey & Sinatra)...they can make anyone believe anything!

 

 

 

 

It a joke, dude!

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Only thing still nagging at me is a signed document and testimony from a notary. I guess when the trial happens (if it happens) we'll find out the validity of the document and the assertions by the notary. Until then I don't believe anything anyone says anymore.

 

As someone who has personally seen how people can change when a parent dies and how even the most supposedly loyal children can act selfishly against what's best for the surviving parent nothing really surprises me. I don't understand it, but it doesn't surprise me. Worst part of all is how a parent can find ways to forgive the errant child and convince themselves what was done was "not so bad". For those reasons I can't believe Bill and the daughters, I can't believe Frank Jr. and as sad as it is to say, I can't trust what Frank Sr. says. There's a lot of money and potential for manipulation here. We may never know what really happened or what the true motivations were.

 

 

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Of course Frank Sr moved out to Florida...he was sharing property (I think) with Frank Jr. and had to charge him with burglary. I totally missed this entire event the first time, so this is all new to me.

 

Having visited the Stroudsburg, PA museum, I can't believe his son would even try to steal from it...it seemed pretty secure.

 

Edit: Wow, I just read that Ellie died died before these events took place. That is a shame; she was a really nice woman :sorry:

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You may have fell into a sense of being naïve regarding that boards/forums are are free from being censored.

 

Edwin

 

I don't mind the censoring of links to sites that contain porn, show how to make crack, or go into detail about how to put together a chemical weapon with a few household items, etc.

 

What I do mind is the censoring of material that "the powers that be" think should not be distributed to the general public. In this case, the web site in question (lets call it the "Conspiracy site") stated some not-so-nice things about 2 of Frazetta's business partners --- who just so happen to be well-know collectors and associates of some big-pocket collectors in the industry.

 

That site is comical, even reckless, in some of its assumptions. However there are some fundemental issues about the whole case that seem odd and worthy of an explination. Viewers should be allowed to make up their own mind based on the information presented. Rational people will figure out quickly how to weigh the information. Those who already have their mind's made up, will see and believe what they want.

 

 

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rednalsram

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I concur AtlasFan.

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You may have fell into a sense of being naïve regarding that boards/forums are are free from being censored.

 

Edwin

 

I don't mind the censoring of links to sites that contain porn, show how to make crack, or go into detail about how to put together a chemical weapon with a few household items, etc.

 

What I do mind is the censoring of material that "the powers that be" think should not be distributed to the general public. In this case, the web site in question (lets call it the "Conspiracy site") stated some not-so-nice things about 2 of Frazetta's business partners --- who just so happen to be well-know collectors and associates of some big-pocket collectors in the industry.

 

That site is comical, even reckless, in some of its assumptions. However there are some fundemental issues about the whole case that seem odd and worthy of an explination. Viewers should be allowed to make up their own mind based on the information presented. Rational people will figure out quickly how to weigh the information. Those who already have their mind's made up, will see and believe what they want.

 

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