It's finally time to put Danny Dupcak out of business auction FUNDRAISER 2 2

[esquirecomics]

Mark Zaid has done just fine without your legal strategy advice.

 

 

 

 

 

 

He still unethical,

 

that link i posted proves that

 

that is why I take what he says not to serious.

 

hard to take a lawyer seriously when he has ethics issues.

 

Mark and I have had our disagreements over the years, but one thing I can tell you is Zaid is not in any way unethical.

 

I must respectfully disagree with you Brian.

 

(thumbs u

[whisp]

i honestly wonder if you have the capability to function on an Internet message board. i really do.

 

if you could learn - just once - to ignore when someone mentions you in a negative way, you would do yourself a huge favour.

 

 

and please, don't pm me again trying to give your side of the story. i'm just going to delete it without reading it. i don't care about your side. i don't care why you post what you do. i just wish you would stop it

 

In my life time I have only ever been kicked off one board in which I was even invited back to it by the owner. I am a member to about 80 other boards right now and I have no issues on any of them except this one.

 

This is because people wont let it go and expect me to let everything go while they still hound me.

 

They went and put on ignore demanding an open apology which wil never happen and have made me to look alot worse then what I really am when people dont know all teh facts of what brought on the issue. they say i play the victim card but they are just as guilty of doing it too.

 

they dont want to move on and since they dont want to i will keep defending myself

 

pretty much it has been quiet but occasioannly a few like watson slip in their posts

 

 

[Foolkiller]

i honestly wonder if you have the capability to function on an Internet message board. i really do.

 

if you could learn - just once - to ignore when someone mentions you in a negative way, you would do yourself a huge favour.

 

 

and please, don't pm me again trying to give your side of the story. i'm just going to delete it without reading it. i don't care about your side. i don't care why you post what you do. i just wish you would stop it

 

In my life time I have only ever been kicked off one board in which I was even invited back to it by the owner. I am a member to about 80 other boards right now and I have no issues on any of them except this one.

 

This is because people wont let it go and expect me to let everything go while they still hound me.

 

They went and put on ignore demanding an open apology which wil never happen and have made me to look alot worse then what I really am when people dont know all teh facts of what brought on the issue. they say i play the victim card but they are just as guilty of doing it too.

 

they dont want to move on and since they dont want to i will keep defending myself

 

pretty much it has been quiet but occasioannly a few like watson slip in their posts

 

 

This is an endless circle for you. You'll never apologize, and they'll never give up pointing out the complete insensitivity of your remarks.

 

People don't particularly care for you here because of those remarks, so even if they don't say it, an overwhelming majority of people think you were a total jerk about the situation. If you are a member of 80 other boards and they have no problem, why the need to stick around here? People don't seem to like you or value your contributions... why stay somewhere like that when you can go elsewhere and be appreciated?

[Sal]

well, Whisp, here's the thing; nobody cares. you took a bad situation, an unfair situation, and made it completely about you by acting in a juvenile and completely inappropriate manner.

 

i didn't give two rat poops about you before the "incident." did not know you, did not care about you in one way or the other. it was your choice to say what you did, to act in the way you did, and so now i care. now i don't like you. now i'm getting involved.

 

two wrongs don't make a right. you could have chosen the high road, dealt with the fact that the boards can be harsh and unfair, and stayed or not stayed. but you didn't. you took the lowest road possible, and now most of the boards can't stand you and don't give a damn about your side of the story.

 

that was 100% you. your continued deflection about how it was someone's else's fault for your own scummy actions is a nice view into how you work.

 

and now, i'm done too

[whisp]

i honestly wonder if you have the capability to function on an Internet message board. i really do.

 

if you could learn - just once - to ignore when someone mentions you in a negative way, you would do yourself a huge favour.

 

 

and please, don't pm me again trying to give your side of the story. i'm just going to delete it without reading it. i don't care about your side. i don't care why you post what you do. i just wish you would stop it

 

In my life time I have only ever been kicked off one board in which I was even invited back to it by the owner. I am a member to about 80 other boards right now and I have no issues on any of them except this one.

 

This is because people wont let it go and expect me to let everything go while they still hound me.

 

They went and put on ignore demanding an open apology which wil never happen and have made me to look alot worse then what I really am when people dont know all teh facts of what brought on the issue. they say i play the victim card but they are just as guilty of doing it too.

 

they dont want to move on and since they dont want to i will keep defending myself

 

pretty much it has been quiet but occasioannly a few like watson slip in their posts

 

 

This is an endless circle for you. You'll never apologize, and they'll never give up pointing out the complete insensitivity of your remarks.

 

People don't particularly care for you here because of those remarks, so even if they don't say it, an overwhelming majority of people think you were a total jerk about the situation. If you are a member of 80 other boards and they have no problem, why the need to stick around here? People don't seem to like you or value your contributions... why stay somewhere like that when you can go elsewhere and be appreciated?

 

This is the main comic board I have stuck too and while there is those few that still attack me there is those I still get along with.

 

And what people are forgetting is they owe me an apology too.

 

this isnt just one sided although they have tried very hard to make it look like that and deceived people.

[whisp]

well, Whisp, here's the thing; nobody cares. you took a bad situation, an unfair situation, and made it completely about you by acting in a juvenile and completely inappropriate manner.

 

i didn't give two rat poops about you before the "incident." did not know you, did not care about you in one way or the other. it was your choice to say what you did, to act in the way you did, and so now i care. now i don't like you. now i'm getting involved.

 

two wrongs don't make a right. you could have chosen the high road, dealt with the fact that the boards can be harsh and unfair, and stayed or not stayed. but you didn't. you took the lowest road possible, and now most of the boards can't stand you and don't give a damn about your side of the story.

 

that was 100% you. your continued deflection about how it was someone's else's fault for your own scummy actions is a nice view into how you work.

 

and now, i'm done too

 

Yeah well funy how I am suppose to take responsibilty for my actions but they dont have too.

 

and it was many of them grouping on me so many wrongs done to me agasint my one wrong which i admitted was wrong but gave my reasoning for doing it

 

they have yet to admit to what they did wrong

[DiceX]

I can't read it, so I'll take a guess. I'll bet I'm close.

 

 

 

[whisp]

And btw you ever notice how watson starts something or brings up something then goes and runs and hides while other people do his battles for him

 

at least I am man enough to stick up for myself

 

he brought this up today but where is he

 

what I thought

 

he was one of the main people that started all this in the past but hides behind ignore and doesnt want to sort this out

 

also its no surprise since he has done this to others and tried to get other people outed on these boards

 

Pretty sure you all know the story I am tallking about

 

 

[Foolkiller]

i honestly wonder if you have the capability to function on an Internet message board. i really do.

 

if you could learn - just once - to ignore when someone mentions you in a negative way, you would do yourself a huge favour.

 

 

and please, don't pm me again trying to give your side of the story. i'm just going to delete it without reading it. i don't care about your side. i don't care why you post what you do. i just wish you would stop it

 

In my life time I have only ever been kicked off one board in which I was even invited back to it by the owner. I am a member to about 80 other boards right now and I have no issues on any of them except this one.

 

This is because people wont let it go and expect me to let everything go while they still hound me.

 

They went and put on ignore demanding an open apology which wil never happen and have made me to look alot worse then what I really am when people dont know all teh facts of what brought on the issue. they say i play the victim card but they are just as guilty of doing it too.

 

they dont want to move on and since they dont want to i will keep defending myself

 

pretty much it has been quiet but occasioannly a few like watson slip in their posts

 

 

This is an endless circle for you. You'll never apologize, and they'll never give up pointing out the complete insensitivity of your remarks.

 

People don't particularly care for you here because of those remarks, so even if they don't say it, an overwhelming majority of people think you were a total jerk about the situation. If you are a member of 80 other boards and they have no problem, why the need to stick around here? People don't seem to like you or value your contributions... why stay somewhere like that when you can go elsewhere and be appreciated?

 

This is the main comic board I have stuck too and while there is those few that still attack me there is those I still get along with.

 

And what people are forgetting is they owe me an apology too.

 

this isnt just one sided although they have tried very hard to make it look like that and deceived people.

 

I'm not saying to go or stay, but whether you owed an apology or not, you've been steadfast in your stance that you did nothing wrong.

 

My advice (and feel free to tell me to go to hell) is to apologize for the remarks -- whether or not you felt they were justified, I think it's clear they were ill timed and inappropriate. I honestly think that would go a long way. Now, I realize you could take the position that I won't do it unless they do in which case this goes no where. But... I think it'd go a long way to putting this whole thing behind us. There's a lot of people with no dog in the fight that view your remarks as just in poor taste.

 

I'm not going to claim that any issue is one sided and that there is no way that you have any reason to be upset. But even if I concede that, I think it's fair for you to at least make the concession that your remark regarding Nik's passing was really in poor taste. Whether you choose to apologize is your decision, but I certainly would think of you in a much different light if, even after all this time, you took the high road and apologized first. People tend to sympathize and forgive -- and while you may not have been completely wrong, I'm not sure there's any circumstance to justify the timing and nature of your remark.

 

Let me say that if you did the right thing -- and acknowledged your remarks as inappropriate, it'd be much harder for your critics to feel that they could continue to hound you with impunity.

[Sal]

jesus, man, i told you i would delete it without reading it. think of the time you wasted

[supapimp]

jesus, man, i told you i would delete it without reading it. think of the time you wasted

 

cry for help because he wants attention, you should just block his PMs.

[esquirecomics]

I honestly have no clue what this discussion is all about, other than what I have gleamed from above, and I candidly don't want to know. This is one of the reasons I tend to avoid the General Section other than specific threads/discussions on very focused topics.

 

Whisp, I don't know if I know you or not, or whether you were wronged or not, or why you felt the need to attack me out of the blue, but respectfully it would be nice if this conversation went elsewhere so I can continue to focus - ethically or unethically as some might see it - on Mr. Dupcak.

 

That would be appreciated. (thumbs u

[whisp]

i honestly wonder if you have the capability to function on an Internet message board. i really do.

 

if you could learn - just once - to ignore when someone mentions you in a negative way, you would do yourself a huge favour.

 

 

and please, don't pm me again trying to give your side of the story. i'm just going to delete it without reading it. i don't care about your side. i don't care why you post what you do. i just wish you would stop it

 

In my life time I have only ever been kicked off one board in which I was even invited back to it by the owner. I am a member to about 80 other boards right now and I have no issues on any of them except this one.

 

This is because people wont let it go and expect me to let everything go while they still hound me.

 

They went and put on ignore demanding an open apology which wil never happen and have made me to look alot worse then what I really am when people dont know all teh facts of what brought on the issue. they say i play the victim card but they are just as guilty of doing it too.

 

they dont want to move on and since they dont want to i will keep defending myself

 

pretty much it has been quiet but occasioannly a few like watson slip in their posts

 

 

This is an endless circle for you. You'll never apologize, and they'll never give up pointing out the complete insensitivity of your remarks.

 

People don't particularly care for you here because of those remarks, so even if they don't say it, an overwhelming majority of people think you were a total jerk about the situation. If you are a member of 80 other boards and they have no problem, why the need to stick around here? People don't seem to like you or value your contributions... why stay somewhere like that when you can go elsewhere and be appreciated?

 

This is the main comic board I have stuck too and while there is those few that still attack me there is those I still get along with.

 

And what people are forgetting is they owe me an apology too.

 

this isnt just one sided although they have tried very hard to make it look like that and deceived people.

 

I'm not saying to go or stay, but whether you owed an apology or not, you've been steadfast in your stance that you did nothing wrong.

My advice (and feel free to tell me to go to hell) is to apologize for the remarks -- whether or not you felt they were justified, I think it's clear they were ill timed and inappropriate. I honestly think that would go a long way. Now, I realize you could take the position that I won't do it unless they do in which case this goes no where. But... I think it'd go a long way to putting this whole thing behind us. There's a lot of people with no dog in the fight that view your remarks as just in poor taste.

 

I'm not going to claim that any issue is one sided and that there is no way that you have any reason to be upset. But even if I concede that, I think it's fair for you to at least make the concession that your remark regarding Nik's passing was really in poor taste. Whether you choose to apologize is your decision, but I certainly would think of you in a much different light if, even after all this time, you took the high road and apologized first. People tend to sympathize and forgive -- and while you may not have been completely wrong, I'm not sure there's any circumstance to justify the timing and nature of your remark.

 

Let me say that if you did the right thing -- and acknowledged your remarks as inappropriate, it'd be much harder for your critics to feel that they could continue to hound you with impunity.

 

That is not true. I admitted to what I did was wrong but I stated why I did it along time ago, I have given people apologies in pm, but there is a select few that put me on ignore and are demanding a public apology and just wont let it go. I have already extended my hand to talk in pm and sort this out in which THEY won't and still stay behind ignore. These individuals still doing this where the ones bullying me in the first place. They are in no position to demand anything from me.

 

 

[DiceX]

LEAVE WISP ALONE!!!1

 

 

[supapimp]

LEAVE WISP ALONE!!!1

 

 

[Foolkiller]

I guess I missed your post where you apologized for your inappropriate remarks. I think genuine apologies are ones that are done publicly (since the announcement was public) with no mention of what you may (or may not) be entitled to. That's up to you. The focus is still how you were wronged in your mind -- my point is simply -- don't worry about the bullying, worry about the conduct you can control. I think people's tolerance for bullying you would go way, way down with a simple statement:

 

I'm sorry for what I said about Nik and his passing, it was wrong and I apologize to everyone.

[hockey&comicsguy]

i honestly wonder if you have the capability to function on an Internet message board. i really do.

 

if you could learn - just once - to ignore when someone mentions you in a negative way, you would do yourself a huge favour.

 

 

and please, don't pm me again trying to give your side of the story. i'm just going to delete it without reading it. i don't care about your side. i don't care why you post what you do. i just wish you would stop it

 

In my life time I have only ever been kicked off one board in which I was even invited back to it by the owner. I am a member to about 80 other boards right now and I have no issues on any of them except this one.

 

This is because people wont let it go and expect me to let everything go while they still hound me.

 

They went and put on ignore demanding an open apology which wil never happen and have made me to look alot worse then what I really am when people dont know all teh facts of what brought on the issue. they say i play the victim card but they are just as guilty of doing it too.

 

they dont want to move on and since they dont want to i will keep defending myself

 

pretty much it has been quiet but occasioannly a few like watson slip in their posts

 

 

This is an endless circle for you. You'll never apologize, and they'll never give up pointing out the complete insensitivity of your remarks.

 

People don't particularly care for you here because of those remarks, so even if they don't say it, an overwhelming majority of people think you were a total jerk about the situation. If you are a member of 80 other boards and they have no problem, why the need to stick around here? People don't seem to like you or value your contributions... why stay somewhere like that when you can go elsewhere and be appreciated?

 

This is the main comic board I have stuck too and while there is those few that still attack me there is those I still get along with.

 

And what people are forgetting is they owe me an apology too.

 

this isnt just one sided although they have tried very hard to make it look like that and deceived people.

 

I'm not saying to go or stay, but whether you owed an apology or not, you've been steadfast in your stance that you did nothing wrong.

 

My advice (and feel free to tell me to go to hell) is to apologize for the remarks -- whether or not you felt they were justified, I think it's clear they were ill timed and inappropriate. I honestly think that would go a long way. Now, I realize you could take the position that I won't do it unless they do in which case this goes no where. But... I think it'd go a long way to putting this whole thing behind us. There's a lot of people with no dog in the fight that view your remarks as just in poor taste.

 

I'm not going to claim that any issue is one sided and that there is no way that you have any reason to be upset. But even if I concede that, I think it's fair for you to at least make the concession that your remark regarding Nik's passing was really in poor taste. Whether you choose to apologize is your decision, but I certainly would think of you in a much different light if, even after all this time, you took the high road and apologized first. People tend to sympathize and forgive -- and while you may not have been completely wrong, I'm not sure there's any circumstance to justify the timing and nature of your remark.

 

Let me say that if you did the right thing -- and acknowledged your remarks as inappropriate, it'd be much harder for your critics to feel that they could continue to hound you with impunity.

 

I missed the initial brouhaha but have caught up to speed on it. Whisp, Brian's advice is sound. I think I pm'd you pretty much the same thing a long time ago. What is done is done. Just b/c a couple of people won't let it go, doesn't mean you have to continue to drag yourself down.

 

If you're sincere, all you need to do is apologize and let it go on your end. Don't continue to give people ammunition.

 

Yes, I know somebody brought it up in this thread. Frankly, they should not have. It was a potshot and completely unnecessary. But they did. And you needed to let it slide. You need to be a bigger person about it.

 

If you rise to the occasion every single time somebody slights you, you're not going to get anywhere. Trust me, I know. You can't fight every battle. It doesn't mean you're giving in or giving up. It just means you're choosing the higher road.

 

This board ought to be somewhere you come to enjoy yourself. You'll get from it what you put into it. Let it go. For those who can't let it go, let that be their problem.

[whisp]

See what I mean . Thanks for proving my point dicex.

[joe_collector]

Hey, I apologize to everyone for butting in this thread - something about the scenario rubbed me the wrong way, but I still shouldn't have aired in such a public manner. Who knows, something good might come of this - crazier things have happened.

[Foolkiller]

See what I mean . Thanks for proving my point dicex.

 

I don't think it's justified either. But people's tolerance for inappropriate remarks and attacks of others on you would go way down if contrition without expectations were offered by you.