Which key is more key: Showcase #4 or FF #1?

[fiendish]

Not the more expensive, but the more important book.

 

I think it's FF #1.

 

Your thoughts?

[DiceX]

Hulk 181

[DiceX]

Just kidding.

Both are important for different reasons.

I'd say FF1 because it started the Marvel Superheros we love today.

Showcase 4 was just a revamp of a Golden Age Flash. (But it started the "Silver Age")

 

Both have their places in history.

 

[Rip]

But would you have FF without Showcase?

I think we talked about this not too long ago............

Maybe it really just depends on which company you collect more.

 

 

[murph0]

I'll go with FF 1. I don't buy the if no Showcase 4, then no FF 1 argument.

 

Brian

[Rip]

Showcase 6?

[joe_collector]

I'll go with FF 1. I don't buy the if no Showcase 4, then no FF 1 argument.

 

Me neither, especially as then you get into a chicken and egg scenario of the Golden Age Flash actually being the start of the Marvel Silver Age.

 

After all Showcase 4 wouldn't have featured a revamped Flash if the original Flash didn't exist.

 

And what about the ancients who invented paper/papyrus? They've gotta be up there on the importance list as well.

[Aman619]

AF 15 ees mas key dan bot ov dem

[blowout]

I would go with the FF #1 purely for the fact that it introduces new characters. Showcase #4 is really only a revamp.

[fantastic_four]

FF #1. I don't care whether the chicken or the egg came first, but FF is the chicken and it's a lot bigger and satisfies me for several meals, whereas Showcase 4 is just one egg--half of a breakfast at best.

[AtomicPaul-migration]

Eggs-actly!!

[Rip]

Maybe FF is just a revamp of the Human Torch combined with the Challengers of the Unknown?

[fantastic_four]

[greggy]

Maybe FF is just a revamp of the Human Torch combined with the Challengers of the Unknown?

[aardvark88]

Perspective from the Harvey world:

 

Little Dot #1 1954 introduces the trio of Little Dot, Little Lotta & Richie Rich

Harvey Hits #3 1957 1st Richie Rich solo issue unleashed

Richie Rich #1 1960 long running series & main character would have about 37 concurrent running titles in the mid-70s. More than Archie, Spidey & X-men combined.

 

See www.pgcmint.com bottom of home page. Mark Wilson agrees Harvey Hits 3 is the Amaz Fant 15 of the Harvey world.

[Rip]

And I didn't even show them the cover to Challengers 3 yet...........

[greggy]

And I didn't even show them the cover to Challengers 3 yet...........

[tth2]

And I didn't even show them the cover to Challengers 3 yet...........

 

Actually, not just a funny post, a GREAT post!

[GoodyRickles]

I have to agree on the Challenger's Influence on FF. I Think Stan had an Idea, BUT Jack was like,"Hey I've already Done it, Let me Change things around a Bit, and DC won't get too upset". I've always thought that Showcase #6 was sorely overlooked...DC kind of Neglected that series.

[Aman619]

Perspective from the Harvey world:

 

Little Dot #1 1954 introduces the trio of Little Dot, Little Lotta & Richie Rich

Harvey Hits #3 1957 1st Richie Rich solo issue unleashed

Richie Rich #1 1960 long running series & main character would have about 37 concurrent running titles in the mid-70s. More than Archie, Spidey & X-men combined.

 

See www.pgcmint.com bottom of home page. Mark Wilson agrees Harvey Hits 3 is the Amaz Fant 15 of the Harvey world.

 

and that means what exactly?