YEAH RIGHT!

[The Troll King]

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/FRANK-FRAZETTA-BIRTH-VAMPIRELLA-1969-R-I-P-/180509163711?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a072f40bf

[The Troll King]

And what, I'll only earn $200 in eBay bucks?

[Mr 9.8]

I loved this part of the description Listing this item is more of a tribute then anything, Ya, a 1,000,000 Dollar ''tribute''

[bronze_rules]

Drea-ea-ea-ea-eam, dream, dream, dream

Drea-ea-ea-ea-eam, dream, dream, dream

When I want you in my arms

When I want you and all your charms

Whenever I want you, all I have to do is

Drea-ea-ea-ea-eam, dream, dream, dream

 

 

[mrlatko]

The grammar made that listing painful to read.

[The Troll King]

I actually own the earliest Vampi art.

 

Tom Sutton was originally suppose to do the cover to Vampi #1 (as he also did part of the interior) and this sketch I have, which I purchased from Jerry Weist, is the result of a concept meeting with Tom, Jim Warren, Forest, and Angelique (who was a model at the time and one of the earliest Vampi models)

 

Angelique has posted in these very forums in the past concerning Heidi Saha.

 

Here's my concept sketch which (as I've been told) was shown to Frazetta so that he could produce a cover painting. He was very prolific and could whip-out a painting in a matter of days. You'll notice the pose is nearly identical.

 

http://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryPiece.asp?Piece=473973&GSub=74395

[RockMyAmadeus]

I actually own the earliest Vampi art.

 

Tom Sutton was originally suppose to do the cover to Vampi #1 (as he also did part of the interior) and this sketch I have, which I purchased from Jerry Weist, is the result of a concept meeting with Tom, Jim Warren, Forest, and Angelique (who was a model at the time and one of the earliest Vampi models)

 

Angelique has posted in these very forums in the past concerning Heidi Saha.

 

Here's my concept sketch which (as I've been told) was shown to Frazetta so that he could produce a cover painting. He was very prolific and could whip-out a painting in a matter of days. You'll notice the pose is nearly identical.

 

http://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryPiece.asp?Piece=473973&GSub=74395

 

Quick! List it on eBay for $10,000,000.00!! It'll TOTALLY sell for that!

[Chespirito]

wow..just wow..this listing is something else..

[PokerKid]

I actually own the earliest Vampi art.

 

Tom Sutton was originally suppose to do the cover to Vampi #1 (as he also did part of the interior) and this sketch I have, which I purchased from Jerry Weist, is the result of a concept meeting with Tom, Jim Warren, Forest, and Angelique (who was a model at the time and one of the earliest Vampi models)

 

Angelique has posted in these very forums in the past concerning Heidi Saha.

 

Here's my concept sketch which (as I've been told) was shown to Frazetta so that he could produce a cover painting. He was very prolific and could whip-out a painting in a matter of days. You'll notice the pose is nearly identical.

 

http://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryPiece.asp?Piece=473973&GSub=74395

 

I love these boards!!! Great piece of art and comic history.

[oakman29]

What are you guys talking about,this is totally legit

[Makmorn]

I actually own the earliest Vampi art.

 

Tom Sutton was originally suppose to do the cover to Vampi #1 (as he also did part of the interior) and this sketch I have, which I purchased from Jerry Weist, is the result of a concept meeting with Tom, Jim Warren, Forest, and Angelique (who was a model at the time and one of the earliest Vampi models)

 

Angelique has posted in these very forums in the past concerning Heidi Saha.

 

Here's my concept sketch which (as I've been told) was shown to Frazetta so that he could produce a cover painting. He was very prolific and could whip-out a painting in a matter of days. You'll notice the pose is nearly identical.

 

http://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryPiece.asp?Piece=473973&GSub=74395

 

Actually, Sutton never did any Vampirella covers. Frazetta’s cover of Vampirella was a substitute for the original cover by European artist Aslan. That cover also featured Vampirella, but was rejected over fears that Vampi looked rather anemic (not good for a vampire, one would guess). That cover was eventually used as the cover for the Vampirella 1972 Annual. Vampirella’s costume and hair style was designed by artist Trina Robbins.

 

http://averycreepyblog.blogspot.com/2009/06/vampirella-1972-annual.html

 

http://www.pixeltube.com/wmc/cindex1.html

 

I may not know much about oil seepage, but I know plenty about Warren magazines

 

[The Troll King]

I actually own the earliest Vampi art.

 

Tom Sutton was originally suppose to do the cover to Vampi #1 (as he also did part of the interior) and this sketch I have, which I purchased from Jerry Weist, is the result of a concept meeting with Tom, Jim Warren, Forest, and Angelique (who was a model at the time and one of the earliest Vampi models)

 

Angelique has posted in these very forums in the past concerning Heidi Saha.

 

Here's my concept sketch which (as I've been told) was shown to Frazetta so that he could produce a cover painting. He was very prolific and could whip-out a painting in a matter of days. You'll notice the pose is nearly identical.

 

http://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryPiece.asp?Piece=473973&GSub=74395

 

Actually, Sutton never did any Vampirella covers. Frazetta’s cover of Vampirella was a substitute for the original cover by European artist Aslan. That cover also featured Vampirella, but was rejected over fears that Vampi looked rather anemic (not good for a vampire, one would guess). That cover was eventually used as the cover for the Vampirella 1972 Annual. Vampirella’s costume and hair style was designed by artist Trina Robbins.

 

http://averycreepyblog.blogspot.com/2009/06/vampirella-1972-annual.html

 

http://www.pixeltube.com/wmc/cindex1.html

 

I may not know much about oil seepage, but I know plenty about Warren magazines

 

From what Jerry told me which was when he originally got the piece from Tom is that Tom was slated to do the cover but it was a time issue resulting in Frazetta producing a cover in a hurry. Jim Warren waited for no man. I think that may be why the pose might not have been quite as original and was based off of Suttons concept.

 

I also did know that Tom's cover was eventually used.

[Makmorn]

I actually own the earliest Vampi art.

 

Tom Sutton was originally suppose to do the cover to Vampi #1 (as he also did part of the interior) and this sketch I have, which I purchased from Jerry Weist, is the result of a concept meeting with Tom, Jim Warren, Forest, and Angelique (who was a model at the time and one of the earliest Vampi models)

 

Angelique has posted in these very forums in the past concerning Heidi Saha.

 

Here's my concept sketch which (as I've been told) was shown to Frazetta so that he could produce a cover painting. He was very prolific and could whip-out a painting in a matter of days. You'll notice the pose is nearly identical.

 

http://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryPiece.asp?Piece=473973&GSub=74395

 

Actually, Sutton never did any Vampirella covers. Frazetta’s cover of Vampirella was a substitute for the original cover by European artist Aslan. That cover also featured Vampirella, but was rejected over fears that Vampi looked rather anemic (not good for a vampire, one would guess). That cover was eventually used as the cover for the Vampirella 1972 Annual. Vampirella’s costume and hair style was designed by artist Trina Robbins.

 

http://averycreepyblog.blogspot.com/2009/06/vampirella-1972-annual.html

 

http://www.pixeltube.com/wmc/cindex1.html

 

I may not know much about oil seepage, but I know plenty about Warren magazines

 

From what Jerry told me which was when he originally got the piece from Tom is that Tom was slated to do the cover but it was a time issue resulting in Frazetta producing a cover in a hurry. Jim Warren waited for no man. I think that may be why the pose might not have been quite as original and was based off of Suttons concept.

 

I also did know that Tom's cover was eventually used.

 

Tom never did a Vampirella cover, ever, his cover might have been used on something else, but not Vampirella.

 

Jerry was wrong, (Imagine that, someone selling art and misinfomation at the same time) Aslan was slated to do the cover for #1. The costume and hair were done by Trina Robbins, both Frank and Tom possibly used those sketches as reference material for the first issue. She originally described the outfit to Frank over the phone (she was on the west coast), the sketch by Tom was probably done later, maybe even after seeing the cover Frank did.

 

http://www.comicsbulletin.com/news/121859686119849.htm

 

http://www.vampirella.com/features/costume3.html

 

http://www.worldlingo.com/ma/enwiki/en/Trina_Robbins

 

Aslan slated for Vampi #1 cover

http://www.vampilore.co.uk/comics/warren001-015.html

http://www.comics.org/issue/24743/

[Makmorn]

I am still waiting for you to prove me wrong or at least show me this Tom Sutton Vampirella cover.

I like Tom's work and would love to see this cover you speak of.

[lscomics]

The grammar made that listing painful to read.

 

I feel dumber for having read through that travesty of grammar.

[Boba]

Mmmmmm, something new

[The Troll King]

I am still waiting for you to prove me wrong or at least show me this Tom Sutton Vampirella cover.

I like Tom's work and would love to see this cover you speak of.

 

Whether or not Tom did a cover is unimportant.

 

I spoke with Trina Robbins today and here was our email exchange:

 

Hello Trina,

 

I have a question that I hope you will be able to solve.

 

A few years ago I purchased a rough sketch from Jerry Weist that can be seen here:

 

http://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryPiece.asp?Piece=473974&GSub=74395

 

Jerry gave me some background information on the piece and said that it was done by Tom Sutton and that he purchased directly from Tom many years prior. The story that he was told by Tom is that this is one of the rough draft concept sketches that he did during the first meeting with Jim Warren and Forrest Ackerman.

 

He said that while the meeting was taking place and different ideas where being tossed around he was doing these roughes to get an idea of what Vampirella should look like.

 

I have spoken with Angelique Trouvere and she claims that she was also at that meeting.

 

Here is my question, since you are credited with the creation of Vampirella's costume can you either a) confirm that this meeting either did or did not take place, and b) were you present at the meeting?

 

Jerry did go on to tell me that originally Tom was suppose to do a cover to the first issue and because Frank Frazetta was so proficient that Warren asked him to do it instead to meet deadline.

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated and I look forward to your response!

 

Thanks,

 

Don Walthrop

 

 

Here is her response:

 

Interesting. From the sketch, it kinda looks like Tom's drawn her in some kind of bikini. That may have been one of the designs that Jim Warren rejected. I was not at that meeting, but how it came about that I designed Vampi's costume (ho hum! I've repeated this story so many times!) was that I was sitting at Jim Warren's desk, showing him my art, when Frazetta phoned him. Jim had not been happy with the costume Frazetta had drawn on Vampi, so he tried to explain what he wanted. While istening to him speaking to Frazetta I grabbed a piece of paper and a pencil and sketched what he was describing. He looked at my sketch and told Frazetta, "I have a young lady here who knows what I want and I'm putting her on." He gave me the phone and I described the costume to Frazetta, and that's how it happened. I never met Frazetta face to face, and sadly, now I won't!

Trina

 

So, Trina seems to think that my Sutton sketch is exactly as Jerry described it, a "concept piece". Jerry is one of the foremost historians for comic art and he's not just "any" dealer. Angelique confirmed to me that the meeting took place and now Trina agrees that it's a "concept piece". Just because you and I differ on our opinions about the Gulf doesn't mean that you have to be so combative with me.

 

My opinions are admittingly kookie to say the least. No shame in that.

[RockMyAmadeus]

It's true...Jerry Wiest isn't just anybody.

 

 

[The Troll King]

Though she may be too modest to admit it I believe that Angelique's relationship with Forrest Ackerman and Jim Warren (strictly platonic) was partly responsible for the very creation of Vampirella also. I think she was inspiration.

 

 

Although this woman, Kathy Sanders was the first person to actually make and wear a Vampirella costume. (This photo is from Angelique's collection)

 

[Makmorn]

Just trying to understand some of your statements.

 

You said that Tom was slated for the cover of #1 and that later that cover was used for the Annual, when it's well documented that it was Aslan. Then you said that Tom's cover was used later for some other Vampirella cover, and this "cover" I couldn't find.

 

You also say that Frank clearly took the pose from Tom and used it for the cover, when clearly Frank was working from home, thus the phone call to Frank. Was Tom staying with Frazetta at his home at the time? Not likely. More likey that Tom saw Frank's designs that were mailed to Warren and came up with that sketch, not the other way around. Other than that, everything else seems correct, it is a sketch by Tom Sutton. (not signed, but it does appear to be his work)

 

To say the fact that Tom didn't do a cover is unimportant is not quite correct, it is important, because it leads one to think some of the other statements made by Jerry are also incorrect.