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For me, The Copper Age began....

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Jeffro.

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Lately, the idea of a transitional mini-age (Cronze? ;) ) is an idea I really like.

:cloud9:

 

I am sticking to collecting just Cronze Age now! :whee:

 

When does CGC implement the new forum area? (shrug)

 

See... that opens up a whole new can of worms, Jeffro, 'cause I prefer Bopper :baiting:

 

It's Bropper! Sheesh doh!

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Unfortunately, I don't think you can point to any one book, or event, or time period as starting the Copper Age. I think the start point is different for every single title, character and company. By 1986/87, everything was Copper, but it was a change that took place over a period of 6 to 7 years.

 

You can point to this title, and that issue, and be perfectly correct, but that will bear little to no relevance to any other title or company or character.

 

I think, perhaps, the best we could do is lock down when the Copper Age was all-inclusive, at what period in time there were no longer any Bronze titles left, when all of the characters had interacted with the rest of the Marvel or DC Universes to be included in this new Age.

 

In my opinion, and take this for what it is worth (and it ain't much!)... I think it was during the Millenium event that the entire DCU finally converted to the Copper Age, and it was during the Secret Wars that the entire Marvel Universe converted. First Comics was Copper Age from its inception, as was Pacific, Eclipse, and Eternity. Cerebus was Bronze Age from beginning to end.

 

Again, take it for what it is worth. About 2c

 

I tend to agree. Lately, the idea of a transitional mini-age (Cronze? ;) ) is an idea I really like.

 

BY CRONZE!!!!

 

 

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jamiejame911-migration

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I think it is also important to point out that the Copper Age was not an Age where you could say "From this date and issue on, all books are Copper". It was more like a movement, a ground swell that gradually built, sweeping up series that were still being told Silver and Bronze style over the course of the decade. There were series that never became Copper, except in the eyes of Overstreet, with their insistence on all-inclusive Age-relevant pricing... I've never been comfortable with the nomenclature of the Overstreet "Ages", or rather, in the application of those terms on a hobby-wide level, I guess. I think being a teenage comic collector in the Copper Age has a lot to do with that, since, at the time, the only clearly defined Ages were Silver and Gold. And, to me, at least, even those edges and date stamps have become murky, and a bit more nebulous.

 

And, God Bless you too, jimjum! I don't usually comment on a lot of your posts, due to complete agreement :D

 

 

Yup! Some books took a bit longer to convert to the copper age.

 

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jamiejame911-migration

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Yup! Some books took a bit longer to convert to the copper age.

And when they did.... :cloud9:

 

 

Aww bronze was still doing good things!! :D

 

 

The copper age ended for DC during Crisis? http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Copper-Age

 

 

Doesn't sound right to me. Does the modern age begin more with adult writing or different art style?

 

 

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joe_collector

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Updated Copper Age Transition Timeline:

 

May 1979: Daredevil 158- First Miller art

Nov 1979: Iron Man #128 "Demon in a Bottle"

Feb 1980: She-Hulk #1

Mar 1980: King Conan 1

Apr 1980: Star Trek 1

Spring 1980: Epic Illustrated 1

Sep 1980: X-Men 137- Death of Dark Phoenix

Oct 1980: DC Presents 26- first New Teen Titans

Nov 1980: New Teen Titans 1

Nov 1980: Moon Knight gets his own series

1980 : Superboy Spectacular- Direct Sales only 1-shot

Jan 1981: Daredevil 168- First Miller -script; Intro Elektra

Jan 1981: X-Men 141- Days of Future Past launches alternate time line that would form the basis for lots of uber-fandom-based X-continuity over the next several years

Jan 1981: Capital Comics launches and publishes Nexus 1

Mar 1981: X-Men 143- Final Claremont/Byrne

Mar 1981: Dazzler 1- First direct-sales-only for an ongoing series

Mar 1981: Bizarre Adventures starts

Mar 1981: Captain Canuck is cancelled

May 1981: Eclipse Magazine starts

June 1981: The Hulk magazine ends

Jul 1981: Fantastic Four 232 - Byrne takes over FF writing/art duties.

Aug 1981: Rogue debuts

Aug 1981: Marvel Premiere ends

Nov 1981: Captain Victory 1- First Pacific Comics issue, direct-only publisher

1981: Marvel cancels many of its reprint titles, including MGC, AA, TTA, MSA, etc.

1981: Stan Lee moves to California to head Marvel TV/movie properties, leaving Jim Shooter in charge

March 1982: Warrior Magazine #1 (Marvelman, V for Vendetta)

May 1982: Saga of the Swamp Thing #1

June 1982: G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero #1

June 1982: Marvel Super-Hero Contest of Champions #1 (first Marvel Mini, precursor to Secret Wars)

Sept 1982: Love and Rockets debuts

Sept 1982: Wolverine Mini #1

1982: Harvey Comics, Warren Publishing and Spire Comics cease operations

1982: DC cancels remaining Horror titles

1982: Start of creator royalties at Marvel and DC

1982: Steve Geppi founds Diamond

1982: Marvel introduces Graphic Novel series, including Death of Captain Marvel and X-Men: God Loves, Man Kills

 

 

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Updated Copper Age Transition Timeline:

 

May 1979: Daredevil 158- First Miller art

Feb 1980: She-Hulk #1

Mar 1980: King Conan 1

Apr 1980: Star Trek 1

Spring 1980: Epic Illustrated 1

Sep 1980: X-Men 137- Death of Dark Phoenix

Oct 1980: DC Presents 26- first New Teen Titans

Nov 1980: New Teen Titans 1

Nov 1980: Moon Knight gets his own series

1980 : Superboy Spectacular- Direct Sales only 1-shot

Jan 1981: Daredevil 168- First Miller -script; Intro Elektra

Jan 1981: X-Men 141- Days of Future Past launches alternate time line that would form the basis for lots of uber-fandom-based X-continuity over the next several years

Jan 1981: Capital Comics launches and publishes Nexus 1

Mar 1981: X-Men 143- Final Claremont/Byrne

Mar 1981: Dazzler 1- First direct-sales-only for an ongoing series

Mar 1981: Bizarre Adventures starts

Mar 1981: Captain Canuck is cancelled

May 1981: Eclipse Magazine starts

June 1981: The Hulk magazine ends

Jul 1981: Fantastic Four 232 - Byrne takes over FF writing/art duties.

Aug 1981: Rogue debuts

Aug 1981: Marvel Premiere ends

Nov 1981: Captain Victory 1- First Pacific Comics issue, direct-only publisher

1981: Marvel cancels many of its reprint titles, including MGC, AA, TTA, MSA, etc.

1981: Stan Lee moves to California to head Marvel TV/movie properties, leaving Jim Shooter in charge

March 1982: Warrior Magazine #1 (Marvelman, V for Vendetta)

May 1982: Saga of the Swamp Thing #1

June 1982: G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero #1

June 1982: Marvel Super-Hero Contest of Champions #1 (first Marvel Mini, precursor to Secret Wars)

Sept 1982: Love and Rockets debuts

Sept 1982: Wolverine Mini #1

1982: Harvey Comics, Warren Publishing and Spire Comics cease operations

1982: DC cancels remaining Horror titles

1982: Start of creator royalties at Marvel and DC

1982: Steve Geppi founds Diamond

1982: Marvel introduces Graphic Novel series, including Death of Captain Marvel and X-Men: God Loves, Man Kills

 

 

Nice synopsis, JC! Well done :applause:

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Updated Copper Age Transition Timeline:

 

May 1979: Daredevil 158- First Miller art

Feb 1980: She-Hulk #1

Mar 1980: King Conan 1

Apr 1980: Star Trek 1

Spring 1980: Epic Illustrated 1

Sep 1980: X-Men 137- Death of Dark Phoenix

Oct 1980: DC Presents 26- first New Teen Titans

Nov 1980: New Teen Titans 1

Nov 1980: Moon Knight gets his own series

1980 : Superboy Spectacular- Direct Sales only 1-shot

Jan 1981: Daredevil 168- First Miller -script; Intro Elektra

Jan 1981: X-Men 141- Days of Future Past launches alternate time line that would form the basis for lots of uber-fandom-based X-continuity over the next several years

Jan 1981: Capital Comics launches and publishes Nexus 1

Mar 1981: X-Men 143- Final Claremont/Byrne

Mar 1981: Dazzler 1- First direct-sales-only for an ongoing series

Mar 1981: Bizarre Adventures starts

Mar 1981: Captain Canuck is cancelled

May 1981: Eclipse Magazine starts

June 1981: The Hulk magazine ends

Jul 1981: Fantastic Four 232 - Byrne takes over FF writing/art duties.

Aug 1981: Rogue debuts

Aug 1981: Marvel Premiere ends

Nov 1981: Captain Victory 1- First Pacific Comics issue, direct-only publisher

1981: Marvel cancels many of its reprint titles, including MGC, AA, TTA, MSA, etc.

1981: Stan Lee moves to California to head Marvel TV/movie properties, leaving Jim Shooter in charge

March 1982: Warrior Magazine #1 (Marvelman, V for Vendetta)

May 1982: Saga of the Swamp Thing #1

June 1982: G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero #1

June 1982: Marvel Super-Hero Contest of Champions #1 (first Marvel Mini, precursor to Secret Wars)

Sept 1982: Love and Rockets debuts

Sept 1982: Wolverine Mini #1

1982: Harvey Comics, Warren Publishing and Spire Comics cease operations

1982: DC cancels remaining Horror titles

1982: Start of creator royalties at Marvel and DC

1982: Steve Geppi founds Diamond

1982: Marvel introduces Graphic Novel series, including Death of Captain Marvel and X-Men: God Loves, Man Kills

Dang! That is a sharp summary. Although I consider DD 168 more key than DD 158 due to Miller taking over the creative reigns. But it still does count as an important event/issue.

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Updated Copper Age Transition Timeline:

 

May 1979: Daredevil 158- First Miller art

Feb 1980: She-Hulk #1

Mar 1980: King Conan 1

Apr 1980: Star Trek 1

Spring 1980: Epic Illustrated 1

Sep 1980: X-Men 137- Death of Dark Phoenix

Oct 1980: DC Presents 26- first New Teen Titans

Nov 1980: New Teen Titans 1

Nov 1980: Moon Knight gets his own series

1980 : Superboy Spectacular- Direct Sales only 1-shot

Jan 1981: Daredevil 168- First Miller -script; Intro Elektra

Jan 1981: X-Men 141- Days of Future Past launches alternate time line that would form the basis for lots of uber-fandom-based X-continuity over the next several years

Jan 1981: Capital Comics launches and publishes Nexus 1

Mar 1981: X-Men 143- Final Claremont/Byrne

Mar 1981: Dazzler 1- First direct-sales-only for an ongoing series

Mar 1981: Bizarre Adventures starts

Mar 1981: Captain Canuck is cancelled

May 1981: Eclipse Magazine starts

June 1981: The Hulk magazine ends

Jul 1981: Fantastic Four 232 - Byrne takes over FF writing/art duties.

Aug 1981: Rogue debuts

Aug 1981: Marvel Premiere ends

Nov 1981: Captain Victory 1- First Pacific Comics issue, direct-only publisher

1981: Marvel cancels many of its reprint titles, including MGC, AA, TTA, MSA, etc.

1981: Stan Lee moves to California to head Marvel TV/movie properties, leaving Jim Shooter in charge

March 1982: Warrior Magazine #1 (Marvelman, V for Vendetta)

May 1982: Saga of the Swamp Thing #1

June 1982: G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero #1

June 1982: Marvel Super-Hero Contest of Champions #1 (first Marvel Mini, precursor to Secret Wars)

Sept 1982: Love and Rockets debuts

Sept 1982: Wolverine Mini #1

1982: Harvey Comics, Warren Publishing and Spire Comics cease operations

1982: DC cancels remaining Horror titles

1982: Start of creator royalties at Marvel and DC

1982: Steve Geppi founds Diamond

1982: Marvel introduces Graphic Novel series, including Death of Captain Marvel and X-Men: God Loves, Man Kills

 

 

What was happening between May 1979 and Feb 1980? That is almost a year between those two timelines.

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What was happening between May 1979 and Feb 1980? That is almost a year between those two timelines.

 

May 1979: Green Lantern #116 (1st Gardner as G.L.)

July 1979: Amazing Spider-man #194 (1st Black Cat)

July 1979: Conan the Barbarian #100

Aug 1979: Tomb of Dracula #70 (last issue)

Nov 1979: Iron Man #128 "Demon in a Bottle"

Nov 1979: Man-Thing vol. 2 #1

Dec 1979: Rom #1

Jan 1980: Amazing Spider-man #200

Jan 1980: X-Men #129 (1st Kitty Pryde, White Queen)

 

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What was happening between May 1979 and Feb 1980? That is almost a year between those two timelines.

 

May 1979: Green Lantern #116 (1st Gardner as G.L.)

July 1979: Amazing Spider-man #194 (1st Black Cat)

July 1979: Conan the Barbarian #100

Aug 1979: Tomb of Dracula #70 (last issue)

Nov 1979: Iron Man #128 "Demon in a Bottle"

Nov 1979: Man-Thing vol. 2 #1

Dec 1979: Rom #1

Jan 1980: Amazing Spider-man #200

Jan 1980: X-Men #129 (1st Kitty Pryde, White Queen)

Way to "fill" space with amazing books.

 

ASM 200, ASM 194, GL 116, Iron Man 128, and UXM 129 are all super reads!

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What was happening between May 1979 and Feb 1980? That is almost a year between those two timelines.

 

May 1979: Green Lantern #116 (1st Gardner as G.L.)

July 1979: Amazing Spider-man #194 (1st Black Cat)

July 1979: Conan the Barbarian #100

Aug 1979: Tomb of Dracula #70 (last issue)

Nov 1979: Iron Man #128 "Demon in a Bottle"

Nov 1979: Man-Thing vol. 2 #1

Dec 1979: Rom #1

Jan 1980: Amazing Spider-man #200

Jan 1980: X-Men #129 (1st Kitty Pryde, White Queen)

 

Of those, Iron Man #128 probably qualifies, but other than maybe ASM 200, the rest are just keys/first-apps/last issues/etc..

 

In the original thread, we were looking for "major changes" or shifts in the comic landscape, not just a list of keys.

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What was happening between May 1979 and Feb 1980? That is almost a year between those two timelines.

 

May 1979: Green Lantern #116 (1st Gardner as G.L.)

July 1979: Amazing Spider-man #194 (1st Black Cat)

July 1979: Conan the Barbarian #100

Aug 1979: Tomb of Dracula #70 (last issue)

Nov 1979: Iron Man #128 "Demon in a Bottle"

Nov 1979: Man-Thing vol. 2 #1

Dec 1979: Rom #1

Jan 1980: Amazing Spider-man #200

Jan 1980: X-Men #129 (1st Kitty Pryde, White Queen)

 

Of those, Iron Man #128 probably qualifies, but other than maybe ASM 200, the rest are just keys/first-apps/last issues/etc..

 

In the original thread, we were looking for "major changes" or shifts in the comic landscape, not just a list of keys.

 

I can go along with that... Whisp asked "what was happening" in that timeframe, so that's what my list is about.

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What was happening between May 1979 and Feb 1980? That is almost a year between those two timelines.

 

May 1979: Green Lantern #116 (1st Gardner as G.L.)

July 1979: Amazing Spider-man #194 (1st Black Cat)

July 1979: Conan the Barbarian #100

Aug 1979: Tomb of Dracula #70 (last issue)

Nov 1979: Iron Man #128 "Demon in a Bottle"

Nov 1979: Man-Thing vol. 2 #1

Dec 1979: Rom #1

Jan 1980: Amazing Spider-man #200

Jan 1980: X-Men #129 (1st Kitty Pryde, White Queen)

 

Of those, Iron Man #128 probably qualifies, but other than maybe ASM 200, the rest are just keys/first-apps/last issues/etc..

 

In the original thread, we were looking for "major changes" or shifts in the comic landscape, not just a list of keys.

 

I can go along with that... Whisp asked "what was happening" in that timeframe, so that's what my list is about.

 

And I appreciate the list from both of you.

 

To this day copper age is my favourite era.

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I can go along with that... Whisp asked "what was happening" in that timeframe, so that's what my list is about.

 

Yep, and thanks for Iron Man 128 - I added that to the list.

 

I also like ASM 200, since it really highlights the overall shift from SA to BA to CA, which started with Peter graduating HS and going to College in ASM 185.

 

The "17 Years Ago Stan Lee and Steve Ditko Created a Classic!" still gets to me.. 17 years ago??? :o

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To this day copper age is my favourite era.

 

Bronze Age is my favorite, but Copper was the most exciting time to be a comic fan - lots of LCS opening up, tons of interest, amazing books like Dark Knight, Watchmen, Swamp Thing, Sandman, Hellblazer, etc. coming out, just a cool time to be reading.

 

I also remember picking up the Paul Smith X-Men run every month and thinking he was the second coming on John Byrne.

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To this day copper age is my favourite era.

 

Bronze Age is my favorite, but Copper was the most exciting time to be a comic fan - lots of LCS opening up, tons of interest, amazing books like Dark Knight, Watchmen, Swamp Thing, Sandman, Hellblazer, etc. coming out, just a cool time to be reading.

 

I also remember picking up the Paul Smith X-Men run every month and thinking he was the second coming on John Byrne.

 

Man-Thing/monster books, Moon Knight and GI Joe where my primaries back then.

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To this day copper age is my favourite era.

 

Bronze Age is my favorite, but Copper was the most exciting time to be a comic fan - lots of LCS opening up, tons of interest, amazing books like Dark Knight, Watchmen, Swamp Thing, Sandman, Hellblazer, etc. coming out, just a cool time to be reading.

 

I also remember picking up the Paul Smith X-Men run every month and thinking he was the second coming on John Byrne.

 

Likewise. The Smith art was so clean. :cloud9:

 

...although I'm not sure Byrne would appreciate being come on. :eek:

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