How Do We Achieve Pro-Active Disclosure In The Marketplace?

[Lazyboy]

What do you expect.They are the highest paid team in baseball.

 

But what do I know im a Dodgers fan

 

LA Dodgers could have an highly paid team of good players, but Frank and Jamie McCourt are the biggest scumbag owners I have seen in a long time.

 

That ugly broad needed $100,000 a month for nails, spas and other cosmetic redundant non-sense to keep her dried up ugly body looking like she is 95 instead of looking 105 in lieu of maybe taking that money for actual baseball players for the team.

Yup, everyone hates greedy profiteers.

 

 

Oh, the irony is just killing me.

[toro]

I am Matt

 

I am Matt

Matt I am

 

That Matt-I-am

That Matt-I-am!

I do not like

that Matt-I-am

 

Do you like

pressed comic books and ham

 

I do not like them,

Matt-I-am.

I do not like

pressed comic books and ham.

 

Would you like them

Here or there?

 

I would not like them

here or there.

I would not like them

anywhere.

I do not like

pressed comic books and ham.

I do not like them,

Matt-I-am

 

Would you like them

in a house?

Would you like them

with a mouse?

 

I do not like them

in a house.

I do not like them

with a mouse.

I do not like them

here or there.

I do not like them

anywhere.

I do not like pressed comic books and ham.

I do not like them, Matt-I-am.

 

 

Would you press them

in a box?

Would you press them

with a fox?

 

Not in a box.

Not with a fox.

Not in a house.

Not with a mouse.

I would not press them here or there.

I would not press them anywhere.

I would not pressed comic books and ham.

I do not like them, Matt-I-am.

 

Would you? Could you?

in a car?

Press them! Press them!

Here they are.

 

I would not ,

could not,

in a car

 

You may like them.

You will see.

You may like them

in a tree?

not in a tree.

I would not, could not in a tree.

Not in a car! You let me be.

 

I do not like them in a box.

I do not like them with a fox

I do not like them in a house

I do mot like them with a mouse

I do not like them here or there.

I do not like them anywhere.

I do not like pressed comic books and ham.

I do not like them, Matt-I-am.

 

A train! A train!

A train! A train!

Could you, would you

on a train?

 

Not on a train! Not in a tree!

Not in a car! Matt! Let me be!

I would not, could not, in a box.

I could not, would not, with a fox.

I will not press them with a mouse

I will not press them in a house.

I will not press them here or there.

I will not press them anywhere.

I do not like them, Matt-I-am.

 

 

Say!

In the dark?

Here in the dark!

Would you, could you, in the dark?

 

I would not, could not,

in the dark.

 

Would you, could you,

in the rain?

 

I would not, could not, in the rain.

Not in the dark. Not on a train,

Not in a car, Not in a tree.

I do not like them, Matt, you see.

Not in a house. Not in a box.

Not with a mouse. Not with a fox.

I will not press them here or there.

I do not like them anywhere!

 

You do not like

pressed comic books and ham?

 

I do not

like them,

Matt-I-am.

 

Could you, would you,

with a goat?

 

I would not,

could not.

with a goat!

 

Would you, could you,

on a boat?

 

I could not, would not, on a boat.

I will not, will not, with a goat.

I will not press them in the rain.

I will not press them on a train.

Not in the dark! Not in a tree!

Not in a car! You let me be!

I do not like them in a box.

I do not like them with a fox.

I will not press them in a house.

I do not like them with a mouse.

I do not like them here or there.

I do not like them ANYWHERE!

 

I do not like

pressed comic books and ham!

 

 

I do not like them,

Matt-I-am.

 

You do not like them.

SO you say.

Try them! Try them!

And you may.

Try them and you may I say.

 

Matt!

If you will let me be,

I will try them.

You will see.

 

Say!

I like pressed comic books and ham!

I do!! I like them, Matt-I-am!

And I would press them in a boat!

And I would press them with a goat...

And I will press them in the rain.

And in the dark. And on a train.

And in a car. And in a tree.

They are so good so good you see!

 

So I will press them in a box.

And I will press them with a fox.

And I will press them in a house.

And I will press them with a mouse.

And I will press them here and there.

Say! I will press them ANYWHERE!

 

I do so like

pressed comic books and ham!

Thank you!

Thank you,

Matt-I-am

 

 

[PEP]

I hate to say this, Nick, because I do, and will continue to disclose anything I know...but I can't vote for those options...

 

There was a reason I didn't want to start a poll, it's very difficult.

 

I don't want to see blacklists, I'm not McCarthy...and I don't think we can derive enough information from a few posts in the marketplace to put people on lists.

 

I'd prefer an option where we ask for some suggested statements to be included in the rules.

I will not sell to Commies!

[whisp]

I am Matt

 

I am Matt

Matt I am

 

That Matt-I-am

That Matt-I-am!

I do not like

that Matt-I-am

 

Do you like

pressed comic books and ham

 

I do not like them,

Matt-I-am.

I do not like

pressed comic books and ham.

 

Would you like them

Here or there?

 

I would not like them

here or there.

I would not like them

anywhere.

I do not like

pressed comic books and ham.

I do not like them,

Matt-I-am

 

Would you like them

in a house?

Would you like them

with a mouse?

 

I do not like them

in a house.

I do not like them

with a mouse.

I do not like them

here or there.

I do not like them

anywhere.

I do not like pressed comic books and ham.

I do not like them, Matt-I-am.

 

 

Would you press them

in a box?

Would you press them

with a fox?

 

Not in a box.

Not with a fox.

Not in a house.

Not with a mouse.

I would not press them here or there.

I would not press them anywhere.

I would not pressed comic books and ham.

I do not like them, Matt-I-am.

 

Would you? Could you?

in a car?

Press them! Press them!

Here they are.

 

I would not ,

could not,

in a car

 

You may like them.

You will see.

You may like them

in a tree?

not in a tree.

I would not, could not in a tree.

Not in a car! You let me be.

 

I do not like them in a box.

I do not like them with a fox

I do not like them in a house

I do mot like them with a mouse

I do not like them here or there.

I do not like them anywhere.

I do not like pressed comic books and ham.

I do not like them, Matt-I-am.

 

A train! A train!

A train! A train!

Could you, would you

on a train?

 

Not on a train! Not in a tree!

Not in a car! Matt! Let me be!

I would not, could not, in a box.

I could not, would not, with a fox.

I will not press them with a mouse

I will not press them in a house.

I will not press them here or there.

I will not press them anywhere.

I do not like them, Matt-I-am.

 

 

Say!

In the dark?

Here in the dark!

Would you, could you, in the dark?

 

I would not, could not,

in the dark.

 

Would you, could you,

in the rain?

 

I would not, could not, in the rain.

Not in the dark. Not on a train,

Not in a car, Not in a tree.

I do not like them, Matt, you see.

Not in a house. Not in a box.

Not with a mouse. Not with a fox.

I will not press them here or there.

I do not like them anywhere!

 

You do not like

pressed comic books and ham?

 

I do not

like them,

Matt-I-am.

 

Could you, would you,

with a goat?

 

I would not,

could not.

with a goat!

 

Would you, could you,

on a boat?

 

I could not, would not, on a boat.

I will not, will not, with a goat.

I will not press them in the rain.

I will not press them on a train.

Not in the dark! Not in a tree!

Not in a car! You let me be!

I do not like them in a box.

I do not like them with a fox.

I will not press them in a house.

I do not like them with a mouse.

I do not like them here or there.

I do not like them ANYWHERE!

 

I do not like

pressed comic books and ham!

 

 

I do not like them,

Matt-I-am.

 

You do not like them.

SO you say.

Try them! Try them!

And you may.

Try them and you may I say.

 

Matt!

If you will let me be,

I will try them.

You will see.

 

Say!

I like pressed comic books and ham!

I do!! I like them, Matt-I-am!

And I would press them in a boat!

And I would press them with a goat...

And I will press them in the rain.

And in the dark. And on a train.

And in a car. And in a tree.

They are so good so good you see!

 

So I will press them in a box.

And I will press them with a fox.

And I will press them in a house.

And I will press them with a mouse.

And I will press them here and there.

Say! I will press them ANYWHERE!

 

I do so like

pressed comic books and ham!

Thank you!

Thank you,

Matt-I-am

 

 

WOW

 

After reading that I was almost brainwashed!

 

 

[MrBedrock]

I am Matt

 

I am Matt

Matt I am

 

That Matt-I-am

That Matt-I-am!

I do not like

that Matt-I-am

 

Do you like

pressed comic books and ham

 

I do not like them,

Matt-I-am.

I do not like

pressed comic books and ham.

 

Would you like them

Here or there?

 

I would not like them

here or there.

I would not like them

anywhere.

I do not like

pressed comic books and ham.

I do not like them,

Matt-I-am

 

Would you like them

in a house?

Would you like them

with a mouse?

 

I do not like them

in a house.

I do not like them

with a mouse.

I do not like them

here or there.

I do not like them

anywhere.

I do not like pressed comic books and ham.

I do not like them, Matt-I-am.

 

 

Would you press them

in a box?

Would you press them

with a fox?

 

Not in a box.

Not with a fox.

Not in a house.

Not with a mouse.

I would not press them here or there.

I would not press them anywhere.

I would not pressed comic books and ham.

I do not like them, Matt-I-am.

 

Would you? Could you?

in a car?

Press them! Press them!

Here they are.

 

I would not ,

could not,

in a car

 

You may like them.

You will see.

You may like them

in a tree?

not in a tree.

I would not, could not in a tree.

Not in a car! You let me be.

 

I do not like them in a box.

I do not like them with a fox

I do not like them in a house

I do mot like them with a mouse

I do not like them here or there.

I do not like them anywhere.

I do not like pressed comic books and ham.

I do not like them, Matt-I-am.

 

A train! A train!

A train! A train!

Could you, would you

on a train?

 

Not on a train! Not in a tree!

Not in a car! Matt! Let me be!

I would not, could not, in a box.

I could not, would not, with a fox.

I will not press them with a mouse

I will not press them in a house.

I will not press them here or there.

I will not press them anywhere.

I do not like them, Matt-I-am.

 

 

Say!

In the dark?

Here in the dark!

Would you, could you, in the dark?

 

I would not, could not,

in the dark.

 

Would you, could you,

in the rain?

 

I would not, could not, in the rain.

Not in the dark. Not on a train,

Not in a car, Not in a tree.

I do not like them, Matt, you see.

Not in a house. Not in a box.

Not with a mouse. Not with a fox.

I will not press them here or there.

I do not like them anywhere!

 

You do not like

pressed comic books and ham?

 

I do not

like them,

Matt-I-am.

 

Could you, would you,

with a goat?

 

I would not,

could not.

with a goat!

 

Would you, could you,

on a boat?

 

I could not, would not, on a boat.

I will not, will not, with a goat.

I will not press them in the rain.

I will not press them on a train.

Not in the dark! Not in a tree!

Not in a car! You let me be!

I do not like them in a box.

I do not like them with a fox.

I will not press them in a house.

I do not like them with a mouse.

I do not like them here or there.

I do not like them ANYWHERE!

 

I do not like

pressed comic books and ham!

 

 

I do not like them,

Matt-I-am.

 

You do not like them.

SO you say.

Try them! Try them!

And you may.

Try them and you may I say.

 

Matt!

If you will let me be,

I will try them.

You will see.

 

Say!

I like pressed comic books and ham!

I do!! I like them, Matt-I-am!

And I would press them in a boat!

And I would press them with a goat...

And I will press them in the rain.

And in the dark. And on a train.

And in a car. And in a tree.

They are so good so good you see!

 

So I will press them in a box.

And I will press them with a fox.

And I will press them in a house.

And I will press them with a mouse.

And I will press them here and there.

Say! I will press them ANYWHERE!

 

I do so like

pressed comic books and ham!

Thank you!

Thank you,

Matt-I-am

 

 

WOW

 

After reading that I was almost brainwashed!

 

 

I like scrolling posts and steak (thumbs u

[TheShadowKnows]

What do you expect.They are the highest paid team in baseball.

 

But what do I know im a Dodgers fan

 

LA Dodgers could have an highly paid team of good players, but Frank and Jamie McCourt are the biggest scumbag owners I have seen in a long time.

 

That ugly broad needed $100,000 a month for nails, spas and other cosmetic redundant non-sense to keep her dried up ugly body looking like she is 95 instead of looking 105 in lieu of maybe taking that money for actual baseball players for the team.

Exactly.Love the team hate the owners.

I felt they would suck at the years start.Played semi well until mid season just to dash my hopes on the rocks.

Oh well there is next year

[skypinkblu]

Seriously, pressing is NOT restoration. It is a different process, but calling pressing restoration is like calling water milk. The simple fact that you call it that doesn't make it so.

 

Drives me nuts when people who frequent the CGC boards basically ignore CGC's stance on pressing. They don't care. If you don't believe it, ask them. I have and they don't.

 

If you want to go to the CBCA board and post such drivel that is fine. The kool aid drinkers will lap it right up.

 

Sorry for going off on you guys, but I feel the post was inappropriate in a grown up conversation.

 

CGC can't call it that because they're in the business of selling restoration detection, but since you can't detect pressing, it weakens their credibility to call it restoration, so it's better for business if they don't. Their vested business interest biases them on the subject.

 

I could care less about pressing other than everyone constantly complaining about it, and I love restoration...but pressing is restoring the book to a previous state. That's restoration. I respect Overstreet for changing his own way of describing pressing. He used to describe it as restoration, but when CGC decided not to, he backed off and just describes it as controversial, which is absolutely true. I presume he did it in the interest of pragmatism and consensus-building, which is fantastic.

Very well said...

 

I'm back, and Dale...I was merely suggesting that you use a P in your inventory, because I couldn't figure out how you could be so neat about one code and have to rely on memory for another. I don't know about you, but I'm older than I used to be and memory, doesn't work so well with me anymore for lists.

 

When you have a code on the back of a book, I know that many of us who buy, have NO clue what it means, the code was for YOU. You could put B and Q for all it matters.

 

BTW, I believe that milk IS mostly water;)

[greggy]

Sharon is a trouble maker.

[skypinkblu]

I hate to say this, Nick, because I do, and will continue to disclose anything I know...but I can't vote for those options...

 

There was a reason I didn't want to start a poll, it's very difficult.

 

I don't want to see blacklists, I'm not McCarthy...and I don't think we can derive enough information from a few posts in the marketplace to put people on lists.

 

I'd prefer an option where we ask for some suggested statements to be included in the rules.

I will not sell to Commies!

 

 

Do they read comics? I'm not sure it's an issue;) ?

[skypinkblu]

Sharon is a trouble maker.

 

I thought I was a dorkette, is this an upgrade or a downgrade ?...but you are probably correct,

 

I'm going to listen to Greg and just not answer any more for now .

[DrWatson]

Can we line the birdcage with this thread yet?

[Comicopolis]

Can we line the birdcage with this thread yet?

 

Now you've posted this we can.

[DrWatson]

[wee_s2e-migration]

Seriously, pressing is NOT restoration. It is a different process, but calling pressing restoration is like calling water milk. The simple fact that you call it that doesn't make it so.

 

Pressing is restoration. If you have to use a machine to improve your comics, it's Resto. Flick a booger off, bend back a corner, wet your finger, do whatever you want with your bare hands, that's fine. But once a machine is thrown in the mix, to me it's Resto.

 

And I've said it before, if Steve Borock hated Pressing as much as he loves it, CGC would've been able to detect it years ago.

[musicmeta]

Should you do this you are now restricting the sales threads to those who press and actively disclose and those who do not press and can vouch for the book.

 

What happens to those who do not press and do not know if a book is pressed? What do they disclose? Are they now suspect simply because they do not have an answer?

 

We all saw what happened to Steve B's sales thread when he said the books "may or may not have been pressed".

 

 

If you know, you say.

 

If you don't know, you say you don't know.

 

Sounds simple enough to me.

[Comicopolis]

Should you do this you are now restricting the sales threads to those who press and actively disclose and those who do not press and can vouch for the book.

 

What happens to those who do not press and do not know if a book is pressed? What do they disclose? Are they now suspect simply because they do not have an answer?

 

We all saw what happened to Steve B's sales thread when he said the books "may or may not have been pressed".

 

 

If you know, you say.

 

If you don't know, you say you don't know.

 

Sounds simple enough to me.

 

I think it's too simple for some.

[VintageComics]

And I've said it before, if Steve Borock hated Pressing as much as he loves it, CGC would've been able to detect it years ago.

 

That's just not true.

 

Proving a book has been pressed is different than proving a book has been restored.

 

With a restored book you can identify foreign matter conclusively proving it's existence. There's no grey area.

 

With a pressed book I'm betting that you can not every truly confirm whether the book was heated and/or pressed on purpose, by accident or at the time of printing (because all paper is pressed and heated at the time of production).

 

That's why I made my Arizona comment earlier last week. Nothing against Arizona...just using it as an example of a state with a hot climate not ideal for storing books. I'd rather know if a book was stored in a hot climate than if it was pressed in a controlled environment. To me that is a much more useful piece of information.

 

 

[Mac Man]

And I've said it before, if Steve Borock hated Pressing as much as he loves it, CGC would've been able to detect it years ago.

 

That's just not true.

 

Proving a book has been pressed is different than proving a book has been restored.

 

With a restored book you can identify foreign matter conclusively proving it's existence. There's no grey area.

 

With a pressed book I'm betting that you can not every truly confirm whether the book was heated and/or pressed on purpose, by accident or at the time of printing (because all paper is pressed and heated at the time of production).

 

That's why I made my Arizona comment earlier last week. Nothing against Arizona...just using it as an example of a state with a hot climate not ideal for storing books. I'd rather know if a book was stored in a hot climate than if it was pressed in a controlled environment. To me that is a much more useful piece of information.

 

 

Roy, no need for AZ. Just think of all of the people who stored their books in attics, etc. Intention is impossible to prove when non-mechanical pressing is used v. environmental conditions, and I've never really heard much about being able to tell the difference between controlled pressing v. "natural" pressing (other than controlled actually seems to look better when done right).

[VintageComics]

Right. I think their is a myriad number of possible storage scenarios that comics go through and all of them are very destructive to the book. Hot cars, humidity, storing books next to an outside wall where the temperature changes often, attic etc.

 

You get the idea.

[joeypost]

Seriously, pressing is NOT restoration. It is a different process, but calling pressing restoration is like calling water milk. The simple fact that you call it that doesn't make it so.

 

Pressing is restoration. If you have to use a machine to improve your comics, it's Resto. Flick a booger off, bend back a corner, wet your finger, do whatever you want with your bare hands, that's fine. But once a machine is thrown in the mix, to me it's Resto.

 

And I've said it before, if Steve Borock hated Pressing as much as he loves it, CGC would've been able to detect it years ago.

 

What if it was a sno-cone machine?