CGC Census Update - What's New?

[valiantman]

Just remember the New Highest Compilation list was my idea.

Yep, and it's a great idea.

It was a head-scratcher trying to make the database do that one,

but I finally figured it out... look for it in my updates from now on.

[AlexH]

Good Job V.

[burntboy]

Good Job V.

 

what he said - interesting stuff

[valiantman]

More interesting numbers...

 

Fastest Growing Publisher Counts In The CGC Census (from 01/08/04 to 03/02/04):

(minimum of 20 submissions in that time period)

Publisher +Increase%

Warren Publishing +51.4%

Fawcett Publications +51.3%

Wally Wood +43%

Harvey Publications +39.6%

Dark Horse Comics +32.7%

D.C.-Marvel +31%

Quality Comics +30.4%

Fiction House +29%

E.C. Comics +26.7%

Atlas Comics +21.7%

Fox Features Synd. +20.7%

Dell Publishing +20.6%

Aspen +17.7%

Gold Key +17.6%

Valiant +17.5%

CrossGen Comics +16.8%

Timely Comics +11%

D.C./Vertigo Comics +8.6%

D.C. Comics +8.6%

Image/Top Cow +7.1%

Marvel Comics +4.9%

Image Comics +4.5%

Dreamwave Productions +1.4%

[AlexH]

V,

 

Is there a way to tell how many magazines have been graded. That one is probably a toughy.

[valiantman]

Is there a way to tell how many magazines have been graded.

2,477 submissions of 1,021 different magazines.

[AlexH]

Is there a way to tell how many magazines have been graded.

2,477 submissions of 1,021 different magazines.

 

V, you are awesome.

 

We're not worthy, we're not worthy!

[Marvelous]

For the information.

[valiantman]

New CGC Submissions By Decade (between 01/08/2004 and 03/02/2004)

1930s 22

1940s 927

1950s 911

1960s 4,078

1970s 3,516

1980s 2,596

1990s 1,490

2000s 4,810

I wanted to add the increase percentage to this table,

since it might help more than the raw numbers.

 

New CGC Submissions (+Increase%) By Decade

(between 01/08/2004 and 03/02/2004)

1930s 22 (+1.4%)

1940s 927 (+3.3%)

1950s 911 (+4.6%)

1960s 4,078 (+4.3%)

1970s 3,516 (+4.3%)

1980s 2,596 (+4.2%)

1990s 1,490 (+4.3%)

2000s 4,810 (+8.7%)

[lighthouse]

Interesting. I personally accounted for 5 of the 48 new 10s in the update.

 

And how many moderns did you need to submit to achieve this statistic?

 

The total number of 9.8 prescreens was around 270 or so that actually made the trip to CGC during that time period... I also submitted other batches screened at 9.6 and 9.4, but obviously I didn't expect any 10s from those...

 

And as a rough guess, those 270 were selected from a pool of around 3400 books. My own personal screening is pretty harsh. After my first batch, I have been averaging around 94% passing. So there are clearly some 9.8s that I am rejecting that would have made the cut. But I would rather submit 20 knowing 19 will make it than submit 40 expecting to get between 21 and 33...

 

If I can figure out a way to post some more complete statistics in a way that won't help my competitors, I will probably do that. Since based on the PM's I receive there is definitely some curiosity.

[lighthouse]

Hey Valiantman... you may already be putting this list somewhere, but I didn't see it.

 

What about the top submissions just during the update period? And maybe top-10 or top-20 breakdowns by decade? I don't think year-by-year data would be useful, but it would be interesting to see which Bronze Age books were seeing more submissions lately, and the percentage increases would probably be very interesting. We all know Hulk 181 was submitted more times, but maybe Spotlight 5 submissions are really taking off, or there's a lot more people submitting DD 131 trying to cash in on an auction they saw...

[sckao]

The total number of 9.8 prescreens was around 270 or so that actually made the trip to CGC during that time period... I also submitted other batches screened at 9.6 and 9.4, but obviously I didn't expect any 10s from those...

 

And as a rough guess, those 270 were selected from a pool of around 3400 books. My own personal screening is pretty harsh. After my first batch, I have been averaging around 94% passing. So there are clearly some 9.8s that I am rejecting that would have made the cut. But I would rather submit 20 knowing 19 will make it than submit 40 expecting to get between 21 and 33...

 

If I can figure out a way to post some more complete statistics in a way that won't help my competitors, I will probably do that. Since based on the PM's I receive there is definitely some curiosity.

 

How about starting a new thread about what you're looking for in a 9.8? I.E. What factors cause you to immediately discard it from consideration?

 

How many of the 9.8s did you actually think could be 10s? Thx.

[valiantman]

What about the top submissions just during the update period? And maybe top-10 or top-20 breakdowns by decade?

I think I can do something like this...

 

Greatest Percentage Increase In CGC Submissions By Decade

(01/08/2004 to 03/02/2004)

(minimum of 5 submissions in that time period)

 

1950s Mad 1 (+7.1%)

1950s Showcase 22 (+5%)

 

1960s Superman 207 (+62.5%)

1960s Superman 216 (+50%)

1960s Heroes, Inc. Presents Cannon nn (+43%)

1960s Strange Adventures 215 (+38.5%)

1960s Batman 181 (+22.5%)

1960s Thor 166 (+17.1%)

1960s Tales of Suspense 96 (+13.2%)

1960s Thor 153 (+12.5%)

1960s Journey Into Mystery 114 (+11.4%)

1960s Tales of Suspense 63 (+10.1%)

 

1970s Conan the Barbarian 45 (+300%)

1970s Eternals 2 (+100%)

1970s Defenders 14 (+30.8%)

1970s X-Men 103 (+15.4%)

1970s Man-Thing v2 #1 (+15.2%)

1970s Conan the Barbarian 13 (+15.2%)

1970s Warlock 9 (+14.7%)

1970s Incredible Hulk 162 (+14.7%)

1970s Conan the Barbarian 8 (+13.5%)

1970s Conan the Barbarian 6 (+13.2%)

 

1980s Wolverine 15 (+112.5%)

1980s Excalibur Special Edition nn (+100%)

1980s Batman: The Cult 3 (+75%)

1980s X-Men Annual 5 (+69%)

1980s Dark Horse Presents 24 (+50%)

1980s Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 3 (+38.5%)

1980s Daredevil 190 (+29.3%)

1980s Amazing Spider-Man 207 (+28.6%)

1980s New Teen Titans v2 #1 (+26%)

1980s Uncanny X-Men 145 (+24.2%)

 

1990s Uncanny X-Men 286 (+800%)

1990s Uncanny X-Men 285 (+700%)

1990s Venom: The Mace 1 (+600%)

1990s Uncanny X-Men 287 (+600%)

1990s Punisher 29 (+500%)

1990s Magnus Robot Fighter 8 (+250%)

1990s Solar, Man of the Atom 6 (+175%)

1990s Baseball's Greatest Heroes 1 (+166.7%)

1990s Uncanny X-Men 288 (+120%)

1990s Solar, Man of the Atom 2 (+100%)

 

2000s Superman/Batman 2 (+500%)

2000s Wanted 1 Variant Cover (+420%)

2000s Teen Titans 6 (+400%)

2000s El Cazador 2 (+350%)

2000s Robin 121 (+300%)

2000s New X-Men 146 (+287.5%)

2000s Ultimate Spider-Man 51 (+275%)

2000s Street Fighter 2 Holofoil Edition (+233.3%)

2000s Wanted 1 Silvestri Variant Cover (+228.6%)

[lighthouse]

How about starting a new thread about what you're looking for in a 9.8? I.E. What factors cause you to immediately discard it from consideration?

 

That's tough, because I certainly don't want to be teaching my competitors anything if I can avoid it. I actually started to do a big post as a photo-essay, showing the procedures I use from unpacking the box to screening the books to bagging them to packing them. I even had most of the pictures taken. But then I realized I may as well join Geraldo in Iraq and start giving away troop positions. If my process has an 85% chance of keeping a 10 a 10, and my competition's method only has a 65% chance I would be a fool to show them how to keep those 10s from dropping to 9.8.

 

I had intended it as free advice for my fellow forumites on how to pack for submitting to CGC, but then realized I was pulling a Geraldo...

 

How many of the 9.8s did you actually think could be 10s? Thx.

 

I haven't seen enough 10s to able to predict that. Once I have seen fifty or sixty of them I might be able to answer that (although I doubt it), but right now all I "predict" when I do my screening is how many will make 9.9 or better.... On books where I submit more than one copy I have no way of knowing which of them made the cut, but for my last couple submissions I have been "expecting" around 11% at 9.9 or better and have been seeing around 13%...

[valiantman]

What about the top submissions just during the update period? And maybe top-10 or top-20 breakdowns by decade?

Here's another list that focuses on more popular submission books with

at least 50 graded copies on the census.

 

Greatest Percentage Increase In CGC Submissions By Decade

(01/08/2004 to 03/02/2004)

(minimum of 5 submissions in that time period and at least 50 submissions all time)

 

1950s Mad 1 (+7.1%)

1950s Showcase 22 (+5%)

 

1960s Heroes, Inc. Presents Cannon nn (+43%)

1960s Tales of Suspense 63 (+10.1%)

1960s Amazing Spider-Man 66 (+8.9%)

1960s X-Men 18 (+8.8%)

1960s Fantastic Four 77 (+8.3%)

1960s Batman 171 (+8.2%)

1960s Sub-Mariner 8 (+8.1%)

1960s X-Men 47 (+7.7%)

1960s Fantastic Four 2 (+7.6%)

1960s Amazing Spider-Man 63 (+7.5%)

 

1970s X-Men 103 (+15.4%)

1970s Incredible Hulk 141 (+11.9%)

1970s Devil Dinosaur 1 (+11.8%)

1970s Amazing Spider-Man 159 (+10.6%)

1970s Amazing Spider-Man 138 (+10.3%)

1970s Amazing Spider-Man 198 (+10.3%)

1970s Conan the Barbarian 15 (+9.8%)

1970s Conan the Barbarian 9 (+9.6%)

1970s Amazing Spider-Man 161 (+9.5%)

1970s Giant-Size Spider-Man 4 (+9.3%)

1970s Marvel Spotlight 1 (+9.3%)

 

1980s Daredevil 190 (+29.3%)

1980s Amazing Spider-Man 207 (+28.6%)

1980s New Teen Titans v2 #1 (+26%)

1980s Uncanny X-Men 145 (+24.2%)

1980s Justice League 1 (+21.4%)

1980s Punisher Limited Series 2 (+20.9%)

1980s Batman: The Cult 1 (+20.5%)

1980s Punisher Limited Series 4 (+20.5%)

1980s Punisher Limited Series 3 (+18.6%)

1980s Punisher War Journal 1 (+16.4%)

1980s Uncanny X-Men 144 (+16.3%)

1980s Uncanny X-Men 150 (+16.3%)

 

1990s John Byrne's Next Men 21 (+42.4%)

1990s Action Comics 662 (+27.4%)

1990s Solar, Man of the Atom 1 (+16.3%)

1990s Spectacular Spider-Man 200 (+15.3%)

1990s Harbinger 1 (+12.2%)

1990s Rai 0 (+11.1%)

1990s Catwoman 1 (+10.7%)

1990s Spider-Man 1 (+8.1%)

1990s Batman 497 (+7.2%)

1990s Spider-Man 1 Silver Edition (+6.6%)

 

2000s JLA/Avengers 3 (+105.6%)

2000s Ultimate Spider-Man 1 Free Comic Book Day Edition (+97.5%)

2000s Marvel 1602 2 (+94.4%)

2000s Teen Titans 1 Fourth Printing (+74.3%)

2000s Wolverine: The End 1 (+69.9%)

2000s Marvel 1602 4 (+64.5%)

2000s Superman/Batman 1 Retailer Incentive Edition (+60.4%)

2000s Supreme Power 1 (+43.6%)

2000s Amazing Spider-Man 500 (+37.6%)

2000s Avengers/JLA 2 (+29.5%)

2000s Ultimate Spider-Man 50 (+29.4%)

[lighthouse]

Wow... I see I wasn't the only one trying to get a 9.8 of Spidey 207...

 

That's great info, man...

 

It's gonna be awfully tough to keep my title this year.

[Mister_Comics]

Great info.

 

Can you show new titles to the census. Books that were not in the census before.

[valiantman]

Can you show new titles to the census. Books that were not in the census before.

There are 1,723 books that are new to the census.

Do you want a list of all of them, or is there something you're looking for?

[Mister_Comics]

There are 1,723 books that are new to the census

 

Those are all new titles to the census???

 

I didn't think there would be that many new titles added.

 

Just new titles. Not like another new issue of Action or Superman added to the census.

 

I guess I'm having a hard time explaining this.

[valiantman]

Just new titles. Not like another new issue of Action or Superman added to the census.

Ok, I see...

 

There are 152 new titles on the CGC census...

(Titles, regardless of the issue number, that were not graded before 01/08/2004)

http://www.gregholland.com/cgc/NewTitles.txt