Is this really a 9.8?

[Tsimanga]

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I've seen 9.4's that look better than this.... no wonder the bronze age market is collapsing, with 9.8's like this all around recently... the SS bump perhaps?

[skinny_white_boy]

It's definitely a CGC 9.8.

[VintageComics]

What's wrong with the book?

 

I see a kreppy scan but the book looks every bit a 9.8 except for the miswrap which some might not like.

 

That white spot that looks like a scrape or a stress mark on the top spine is probably scanner artifact.

[Boozad]

I'm not really seeing that much wrong with it that I couldn't discount as a bad scan.

[seanfingh]

The only question for me is that bright spot next to the "52 pages 25." If that is a scanner glare or whatever, I have no problems with that being 9.8. The "softness" of the two left corners is exacerbated by the ginormous scan.

[chezhead]

how come a bad miswrap like that doesn't get dinged from being a 9.8?

 

It is really distracting.

[Boozad]

how come a bad miswrap like that doesn't get dinged from being a 9.8?

 

It is really distracting.

 

Miswrap doesn't affect grade. It's just down to personal choice on the buyer's side whether they can live with it or not.

[Mutie Fan]

According to the upper left hand corner it is indeed a 9.8.

[VintageComics]

how come a bad miswrap like that doesn't get dinged from being a 9.8?

 

It is really distracting.

 

CGC cuts off the allowable grade based on the size of defect (in this case miswrap).

 

The larger the miswrap, the lower the grade cut off.

 

This really only has an effect on the 9.6-10.0 range. Below that I don't think a miswrap has any effect on grade.

[Mr 9.8]

how come a bad miswrap like that doesn't get dinged from being a 9.8?

 

It is really distracting.

Maybe because it was very common back then?

[seanfingh]

how come a bad miswrap like that doesn't get dinged from being a 9.8?

 

It is really distracting.

 

CGC cuts off the allowable grade based on the size of defect (in this case miswrap).

 

The larger the miswrap, the lower the grade cut off.

 

This really only has an effect on the 9.6-10.0 range. Below that I don't think a miswrap has any effect on grade.

 

I think you are full of shiite. We all have seen horrific miswraps in 9.8 cases. Especially since the great Pressing Boom of 2009. It might keep a book from a 9.9+

[VintageComics]

We discussed miswraps in detail in this thread.

 

Don't feel like typing it out again.

 

[Mutie Fan]

I've seen examples of a miswrap/miscut considerably worse than this in a 9.8 holder. IIRC there was a BA batman book posted here that looked like it had damn near been cut on a diagonal that got a 9.8.

[Boozad]

how come a bad miswrap like that doesn't get dinged from being a 9.8?

 

It is really distracting.

 

CGC cuts off the allowable grade based on the size of defect (in this case miswrap).

 

The larger the miswrap, the lower the grade cut off.

 

This really only has an effect on the 9.6-10.0 range. Below that I don't think a miswrap has any effect on grade.

 

I think you are full of shiite. We all have seen horrific miswraps in 9.8 cases. Especially since the great Pressing Boom of 2009. It might keep a book from a 9.9+

 

Yep.

[Mutie Fan]

Thanks for posting that Roy. Not the thread I was thinking of, but good info. I might just have to find myself a 2nd edition of the OS grading guide. I have the 3rd edition.

[seanfingh]

We discussed miswraps in detail in this thread.

 

Don't feel like typing it out again.

 

 

Nice Link. You were as full of hot air in that thread as you are here.

[VintageComics]

how come a bad miswrap like that doesn't get dinged from being a 9.8?

 

It is really distracting.

 

CGC cuts off the allowable grade based on the size of defect (in this case miswrap).

 

The larger the miswrap, the lower the grade cut off.

 

This really only has an effect on the 9.6-10.0 range. Below that I don't think a miswrap has any effect on grade.

 

I think you are full of shiite. We all have seen horrific miswraps in 9.8 cases. Especially since the great Pressing Boom of 2009. It might keep a book from a 9.9+

 

Uh, no. A miswrap can and does drop the grade into 9.6 if it is severe enough.

 

Stick that shiite in where it belongs.

 

[VintageComics]

We discussed miswraps in detail in this thread.

 

Don't feel like typing it out again.

 

 

Nice Link. You were as full of hot air in that thread as you are here.

 

Proof, lawyer?

[chezhead]

how come a bad miswrap like that doesn't get dinged from being a 9.8?

 

It is really distracting.

 

Miswrap doesn't affect grade. It's just down to personal choice on the buyer's side whether they can live with it or not.

 

 

i guess i don't understand why not then.

 

Are the following treated the same way?

 

paper roll creases.

registration issues.

bad trimming.

blanket adhesions causing color loss.

 

they all fall under printing defects.

[Mutie Fan]

how come a bad miswrap like that doesn't get dinged from being a 9.8?

 

It is really distracting.

 

Miswrap doesn't affect grade. It's just down to personal choice on the buyer's side whether they can live with it or not.

 

 

i guess i don't understand why not then.

 

Are the following treated the same way?

 

paper roll creases.

registration issues.

bad trimming.

blanket adhesions causing color loss.

 

they all fall under printing defects.

 

CGC has never been one to publicly announce their grading standards and they do differ from Overstreet.