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Silver Age Hierarchy - pre poll list request

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Wayne-Tec's hierarchy thread reminded me of the fact that we have had a number of list the top ten threads where each person lists their own top ten.

 

We haven't though had a poll for some time.

 

Poll would involve:

 

a.) Determining the long list (the more the better) - this thread.

b.) Creating the 30 comic short list - 1st poll (30 votes each)

c.) Determining the positions of each comic in the final 30 - 3 day poll per position by which we vote off the lowest 3 comics

 

Aim of the vote will be to determine the top 30 books of the SA in terms of importance (not value which of course is one indicator).

 

As with all these types of threads there will be books that have an obvious position (AF#15) but it will be interesting to see where the rest of the order ends up.

 

My initial thoughts (OS etc) for the list:

 

Action #242 (1st Brainiac)

Action #252 (1st Supergirl)

Adventure #247 (1st Legion of Super Heroes)

Adventure #260 (1st SA Origin of Aquaman)

Adventures of the Fly #1 (The Fly origin, Shield app)

Amazing Advetures #1 (Torr cover & 1st Dr. Droom)

AF #15 (1st Spidey)

ASM #1 (2nd Spidey - tied 1st X-over with FF#12, 1st JJ)

ASM #2 (1st Vulture)

ASM #3 (1st Doc Octopus)

ASM #4 (1st Sandman)

ASM #6 (1st Lizard)

ASM #14 (1st Green Goblin)

ASM #31 (1st Gwen and Harry)

ASM #50 (1st Kingpin)

Avengers #1 (1st app and origin of the Avengers)

Avengers #4 (1st SA Cap America)

Avengers #57 (1st Vision)

Batman #121 (1st Mr Freeze)

Batman #181 (1st Poison Ivy)

Batman #189 (1st Scarecrow)

B&B #28 (1st JLA)

B&B #34 (1st SA Hawkman)

B&B #51 (Aquaman and Hawkman)

B&B #54 (1st Teen Titans)

Captain America #117 (1st Falcon)

Daredevil #1 (1st Daredevil)

Daredevil #7 (1st Red Costume)

Detective #225 (1st Martian Manhunter/ start of SA?)

Detective #233 (1st Batwoman)

Detective #327 (1st new look Batman - Infantino)

Detective #359 (1st Batgirl)

Doctor Solar, Man of the Atom #1 (1st Dr Solar)

Double Life of Private Strong #1 (Reintro The Shield, Simon/Kirby back doing super-heroes)

80 Page Giant #1 (Superman reprints)

FF #1 (1st FF)

FF #2 (1st Skrulls)

FF #3 (1st FF in costume)

FF #4 (1st SA Sub-Mariner)

FF #5 (1st Dr Doom)

FF #13 (1st Watcher)

FF #45 (1st Inhumans)

FF #48 (1st Silver Surfer and Galactus)

FF #52 (1st Black Panther)

FF #67 (1st Him/Warlock)

FF annual #1 (origin FF)

FF annual #6 (Birth Franklin Richards)

Flash #105 (Origin retold + 1st Mirror Master)

Flash 110 (1st Kid Flash)

Flash #123 (1st mention Earth II, reintro GA Flash)

Flash #137 (1st SA Vandal Savage + 1st SA JSA)

Flash #139 (1st Prof. Zoom)

GI Combat #87 (1st Haunted Tank)

Green Lantern #1 (Origin retold)

Green Lantern #7 (1st Sinestro)

Green Lantern #40 Origin of Infinite Earths)

HOM #143 (J'onn J'onzz Manhunter begins)

HOM #174 (Mystery format begins)

HOS #81 (Mystery format begins, 1st Abel)

Hulk #1 (1st Hulk)

Iron Man #1 (1st Iron Man in own series)

IM&S #1 (one-shot)

JIM #83 (1st Thor)

JIM #85 (1st Loki)

JIM #112 (1st Hulk vs Thor)

JIM #118 (1st Destroyer)

JIM ANNUAL #1 (1st Hercules)

JLA #1 (2nd JLA and 1st Despero)

JLA #21 (Earth 1/ Earth 2 crossover)

Little Dot #1 (1st app Richie Rich + Little Lotta)

Mad #1 (1st MAD)

My Greatest Adventure #80 (1st Doom Patrol)

Nick Fury Agent of Shield #1

Our Army at War #81 (1st Sgt Rock? - Sgt Rocky)

Our Army at War #83 (1st Sgt Rock)

Rawhide Kid #17 (Origin by Jack Kirby)

Richie Rich #1 (1st in series)

Showcase #4 (1st SA Flash/ start of SA?)

Showcase #6 (1st Challengers of the Unknown)

Showcase #8 (2nd Flash + 1st Cap Cold)

Showcase #9 (Lois Lane)

Showcase #17 (1st Adam Strange)

Showcase #22 (1st SA Green Lantern)

Showcase #27 (1st Sea Devils)

Showcase #30 (Origin SA Aquaman)

Showcase #34 (1st SA Atom)

Showcase #37 (1st Metal Men)

Showcase #43 (Dr No - 1st DC movie adaptation)

Showcase #60 (1st SA Spectre)

Sgt Fury #1 (1st Sgt Fury)

Silver Surfer #1 (Detailed origin of Surfer)

SSWS #90 (1st "War that time forgot" - dinosaur issue)

Strange Adventures #180 (1st Animal Man)

Strange Adventures #205 (1st Deadman)

Strange Tales #101 (Human Torch series)

Strange Tales #110 (1st Dr Strange)

Strange Tales #114 (1st SA Cap, actually Acrobat)

Strange Tales #115 (Dr Strange Origin)

Strange Tales #135 (1st Shield)

Strange Tales Annual #2 (1st Spidey crossover)

Strange Worlds #1 (Crom)

Superboy #89 (1st Mon-El)

Superboy #98 (1st Ultra Boy)

Superman Annual #1 (1st SA DC annual)

Thor #166 (2nd Warlock/Him)

TOS #1 (1st in series - sci-fi)

TOS #39 (1st Iron Man)

TOS #48 (1st Red and Gold Armor)

TOS #50 (1st Mandarin)

TOS #58 (Cap America v Iron Man)

TOS #97 (1st Whiplash)

TTA #1 (1st in series - prototype/monster/sci-fi)

TTA #27 (1st Ant Man)

TTA #35 (1st Ant Man in costume)

TTA #59 (1st Hulk in title)

TTA #62 (1st The Leader)

TTA #90 (1st the Abomination)

Wonder woman 105 (Wonder Woman's secret origin)

X-Men #1 (1st X-Men)

X-Men #4 (1st Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, - Brotherhood of Evil Mutants)

X-Men #12 (Origin Prof X./ 1st Juggernaut)

 

 

Others?

 

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Wayne-Tec's hierarchy thread reminded me of the fact that we have had a number of list the top ten threads where each person lists their own top ten.

 

We haven't though had a poll for some time.

 

Poll would involve:

 

a.) Determining the long list (the more the better) - this thread.

b.) Creating the 30 comic short list - 1st poll (30 votes each)

c.) Determining the positions of each comic in the final 30 - 3 day poll per position by which we vote off the lowest 3 comics

 

Aim of the vote will be to determine the top 30 books of the SA in terms of importance (not value which of course is one indicator).

 

As with all these types of threads there will be books that have an obvious position (AF#15) but it will be interesting to see where the rest of the order ends up.

 

My initial thoughts (OS etc) for the list:

 

Action #252

Adventure #247

AF #15

ASM #1

ASM #2

ASM #3

ASM #4

ASM #6

ASM #14

ASM #50

Avengers #1

Avengers #4

Batman #181 (1st Poison Ivy)

Batman #189 (1st Scarecrow)

B&B #28

Daredevil #1

Detective #225 (just to wind up the start of the SA question)

Detective #359

FF #1

FF #2

FF #4

FF #5

FF #48

Flash #105

Flash #123

Green Lantern #1

Hulk #1

JIM #83

JLA #1

Mad #1

Nick Fury Agent of Shield #1

Our Army at War #81

Our Army at War #83

Showcase #4

Showcase #8

Showcase #9

Showcase #22

Sgt Fury #1

Strange Tales #101

Strange Tales #110

Strange Tales #135 (1st Shield)

TOS #39

TTA #27

Uncle Scrooge #1 (FC #386 (SA?))

X-Men #1

 

I'm sure there are some glaring omissions.

 

Others?

 

ASM 31 (Gwen and Harry)

AVENGERS 57

Detective 327

FF 13

FF 52

FF ANNUAL 6

JIM 85

JIM119

JIM ANNUAL 1

LITTLE DOT 1

SHOWCASE 17

SUPERBOY 89

SUPERBOY 98

.....For now. GOD BLESS.....

 

-jimbo(a friend of jesus) (thumbs u

 

 

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We're talking importance, rather than *just* value? There are some odd ones on the list already...like Spidey #2-4, 6.

 

I would add HOM #174, HOS #81, Showcase #27, 30, 37, 43, 60, HOM #143 (?), My Greatest Adventure #80, Eighty Page Giant #1, Superman Annual #1, Strange Tales Annual #2, Suspense #58, Astonish #59, B&B #51, 54 (fo sho!) X-Men #12, Double Life of Private Strong #1 (really), SSWS #90, Strange Advnetures #205 (maybe even #180), Iron Man #1, SS #1, IM&S #1, Doctor Solar, Man of the Atom #1.

 

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In my mind when you throw out value you end up with books like Flash 123, which is the basis for 40 something years of DC storylines. Or a book like Showcase 17 which opened up the science fiction storylines. How about a book like Brave and the Bold 54, which seems to be underrated considering the long runs of the Teen Titans over the years.

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Over 100 books to date.

 

Think we'll give it to the end of tomorrow before closing the long list to allow the football fans a chance to respond.

 

Will be interesting to see how much the list ends up resembling the OS top 20 rather than historic significance.

 

Funny enough there are a lot more DCs on the list in proportion to Marvels than I expected.

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Advenures of the Fly # 1 should probably be there also. FF 66/67 and Thor 166 have Warlock's embryonic storylines. FF 45 should also be there with the Inhumans.TTA 90 has first Abomination who was popular enough to make it to the big screen as was the Leader from TTA 62. Whiplash from TOS 97 also. Cap 117, though arguably BA, might fit. TOS 50 is the first Mandarin....also on the screen soon. GOD BLESS...

 

-jimbo(a friend of jesus) (thumbs u

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Rifleman 10 should be included. Very influential in starting the "wood" genre of photo covers.

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