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Hot topic boils over again! posted by mcfly

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My favorite topic sure does draw the battle lines!

 

Greatings and salutations fans,friends and foes! I see turn around times still rule the boards and harsh words sometimes flow. After reading the last half dozen journals it's really great to see some of the old foes are playing nice. I would like to touch on fact or fiction; Who said the company lost two graders? Last I heard they had Three to many! So they are up one,no wait six months ago they lost three,so how many is that? See how these excuses cause problems! Remember a few months ago when the company took friday's off during "the season"and closed down for conventions. I dispelled that rumor with fact and now it's all but forgotten and it's no longer one of the "excuses". Which bring out the big one again, I read through all the CGC paperwork I have as back as 2003 and not one word about longer waits during "the season". I know many consider this to be fact but if con season is eight months,as recently posted, it would be factored in the estimate times.Another one is a few months ago a big dog insisted that the CGC would not be at conventions till Spring yet there they were at the Long Beach CA comic-con over the Halloween weekend taking submissions. where else will they be before Spring? If they really are so backed up why are they out hussling up more work.(2nd rule of business:"There is no such thing as too much work"!) Not that I like to beat the same old dead horse(stop reading if I'm makin yah nuts)but I'm in this for the long haul. Remember I'm on a one year mission, sending in 30 value tier books ever month and a half.My latest took 91 business days, May 25th to October 12th,four and a half months. Yeah,I know sucks doesn't it! My quickest was 68 b days submitted back in April.Since this is the slowest tier I think a few of you are exaggerating when you say six months UNLESS your talking signature series which has no clearly defined time table. I've also done a few other tiers with the same result,way over. Even 2 fast track moderns,12 books and 17 books took 29 and 25 business days not bad but still not "on time"as posted. I am documenting all of this because I do plan to take action so when you do talk about your submissions Please,Please,Please try to remember to say which tier and exact dates from at least received to shipped. Graded to shipped helps too. I had one 30 value go from verified to graded,no scheduled, and my latest magazine submission spent less than three weeks received and over three weeks scheduled for grading.Different routes for different tiers I guess. So as much as paying all up front is illegal in most businesses and highly unethical in all, it's still only my second mission, the first being getting the published estimate times changed to a more realistic number. In closing do you thing we can get more than two of us to agree on a course of action as well as a united front in actually dealing with this common problem? Hey, I'm a glass is half full kind of guy and all this love in the last few journals could be a start! I have spoken...'nuff said...and commence with the insults..Mcf

 

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And on the "fact or fiction" question, and I mean this purely from a fellow fact finding angle (because it's so easy to read false hostility on anonymous message boards), where did you hear they had 3 too many? lol I love the weirdness of information on CGC... I wish I had a better inside track than just reading the boards and journals.

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Yes it's as dumb as I could make it. Not hostile,frustrated. I heard it at comic-con I also heard they were moving to New Jersey. Is this true I don't know, it's what I heard,get the point! Two less graders sounds like a great excuse,we accept the long delays,all is forgiven, 40 days is now 80, stop complaining. What will be the next EXCUSE! Will the CGC ever come out and say." Yes! We have way to much work to handle,we don't have enough help and our turn around times are totally unrealistic. That is just not going to happen. I will say it one more time...All I want is the CGC to change their turn around times to a much more realistic number. Most of the banter would all go away. More people would probably opt for the quicker,more expensive tiers. The company would make more money per book, so what is the problem? Everything BUT the truth is what I get.."Where are my books? "oh,yeah,we're working on them". they show up 2 months later! If I was so off base then why are so many complaining? That's what's up with the CGC. On the other hand more than a few people are way offf on the actual definition of the word"estimate" why is that? This is the cause of most of the in-fighting and distracts from the real problem. I know three months of "verified"sucks but why does "graded" translate to "all is forgiven"? chill.....mcf

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Yes it's as dumb as I could make it. Not hostile,frustrated. I heard it at comic-con I also heard they were moving to New Jersey. Is this true I don't know, it's what I heard,get the point!

 

I heard that you'll believe absolutely anything you're told, no matter how far-fetched or ludicrous it is. Is this true? I don't know. But that's what I heard.

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I have had 200 books in modern for about a couple months, others for approaching 6 months. Most of my moderns just went to graded status.

 

I would prefer good grading as opposed to speed but that is just me. I think CGC is smart, they are not reducing the core asset they have which is grading quality.

 

Graders do not grow on trees, I have been grading books for 20 years and I doubt I would feel up to the task and I am a pretty conservative grader.

 

I hope they do not cave to these posts. I would prefer quality grading over speed any day and yes this is a part time business for me and I would still prefer it this way.

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So the main topic is ignored and the usual insults fly. I guess you are are okay with the published estimate times to be not even close to reality. Does anyone have anything positive to say to fix this? Where is that little happy face with his hands in the air? You bullies have me in surrender mode. Mcf

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I have had 200 books in modern for about a couple months, others for approaching 6 months. Most of my moderns just went to graded status.

 

I would prefer good grading as opposed to speed but that is just me. I think CGC is smart, they are not reducing the core asset they have which is grading quality.

 

Graders do not grow on trees, I have been grading books for 20 years and I doubt I would feel up to the task and I am a pretty conservative grader.

 

I hope they do not cave to these posts. I would prefer quality grading over speed any day and yes this is a part time business for me and I would still prefer it this way.

 

I agree with this. I'd take a delay over rushed grading any day. I also hope they don't lower their employment standards by hiring underqualified graders that take focus away from their current staff of graders.

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