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Now, Here's a good one for you all! Giant Size Man-Thing #1 1974

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Description: Giant Size Man-Thing #1 from August 1974, with beautiful, supple white pages, featuring an awesome Man-Thing vs. The Glob cover and art by Mike Ploog, with a fantastic story by Steve Gerber. This issue also contains a Steve Ditko classic fantasy reprint from Amazing Adult Fantasy #11, and not one, but two Jack Kirby classic fantasy reprints from Strange Tales Annual #2 and Tales of Suspense #15. Absolutely killer stuff!

 

This book is from my personal collection, purchased by yours truly in the Summer of 1974. It's everything you want in a high-grade comic book -- EXCEPT for: significant chipping. This is one unbelievably beautiful, read-once book. The book has these defects: 1) there is significant chipping to the top edge and the lower left spine corner; 2) there is a very light 1/8" crease to the lower right corner of the front cover; and 3) there are distributor banding marks at the top and bottom edges. The book is flat, tight and near-perfectly cut with tremendous newsstand cover gloss and brilliant inks. It is complete and intact, with no tears, and no writing. The page quality is outstanding: supple and bright white in color.

 

How do you grade this one?

 

As always, please comment in addition to assigning a grade, thanks. laugh.gif

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This book is from my personal collection, purchased by yours truly in the Summer of 1974. It's everything you want in a high-grade comic book -- EXCEPT for: significant chipping. This is one unbelievably beautiful, read-once book. The book has these defects: 1) there is significant chipping to the top edge and the lower left spine corner; 2) there is a very light 1/8" crease to the lower right corner of the front cover; and 3) there are distributor banding marks at the top and bottom edges. The book is flat, tight and near-perfectly cut with tremendous newsstand cover gloss and brilliant inks. It is complete and intact, with no tears, and no writing. The page quality is outstanding: supple and bright white in color.

 

sign-funnypost.gif I liked the Cap's and the TOD's you had up in the other threads. This book is one for the dollar bin at LCS. Too many flaws on a low valued book. I would say about 4.5.

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3.5, but that's just me - chipping on a silver age is bad enough, but on bronze it's a big eyesore no matter how nice the rest of the book. Cool cover though. I have a Giant-Size Man-Thing that's a 10, but it's not a comic book.

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This book is from my personal collection, purchased by yours truly in the Summer of 1974. It's everything you want in a high-grade comic book -- EXCEPT for: significant chipping. This is one unbelievably beautiful, read-once book. The book has these defects: 1) there is significant chipping to the top edge and the lower left spine corner; 2) there is a very light 1/8" crease to the lower right corner of the front cover; and 3) there are distributor banding marks at the top and bottom edges. The book is flat, tight and near-perfectly cut with tremendous newsstand cover gloss and brilliant inks. It is complete and intact, with no tears, and no writing. The page quality is outstanding: supple and bright white in color.

 

sign-funnypost.gif I liked the Cap's and the TOD's you had up in the other threads. This book is one for the dollar bin at LCS. Too many flaws on a low valued book. I would say about 4.5.

 

Yeah, but as a collector, I eat books like this up! There are a lot of defects, but it's a great comic! 10 times the book a so-called strict FN or FN/VF copy of this book!

 

Oh, and I have quite a few more High Grades I will be posting for opinions - This is for feedback, to sharpen grading skills, and to air out collector sentiment..

 

"Grading is like playing the scale - you must be able to play it down as well as up!"

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Anywhere from 5.0 to 5.5.

 

FFB,

Technically I agree, but as a collector I would take this copy over a strict FN/VF 7.0 copy, any day of the week.

 

As a speculator, I wouldn't touch it, but hey it's all about fun! (isn't it?)

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Anywhere from 5.0 to 5.5.

 

FFB,

Technically I agree, but as a collector I would take this copy over a strict FN/VF 7.0 copy, any day of the week.

 

As a speculator, I wouldn't touch it, but hey it's all about fun! (isn't it?)

 

You mean because of the price discount? How much more expensive is a F/VF copy? Maybe a dollar or two?

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Anywhere from 5.0 to 5.5.

 

FFB,

Technically I agree, but as a collector I would take this copy over a strict FN/VF 7.0 copy, any day of the week.

 

As a speculator, I wouldn't touch it, but hey it's all about fun! (isn't it?)

 

You mean because of the price discount? How much more expensive is a F/VF copy? Maybe a dollar or two?

 

Prices/schmices, I mean because it's a nicer book, to hold, to read, to own! Imagine this was a AF #15. . . .then how would you feel about it? shocked.gif

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Anywhere from 5.0 to 5.5.

 

FFB,

Technically I agree, but as a collector I would take this copy over a strict FN/VF 7.0 copy, any day of the week.

 

As a speculator, I wouldn't touch it, but hey it's all about fun! (isn't it?)

 

You mean because of the price discount? How much more expensive is a F/VF copy? Maybe a dollar or two?

 

Prices/schmices, I mean because it's a nicer book, to hold, to read, to own! Imagine this was a AF #15. . . .then how would you feel about it? shocked.gif

 

...imagine it was Spawn #1 how would you feel about it? How in the world can you compare an AF#15 to GSMT#1?

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death,

 

I'm not comparing the two issues at all, what I am saying is that although grading is supposed to be objective and technical, and not subjective, different issues in the same condition will warrant different opinions.

 

I picked this book to make a point, or rather to see how many of you out there, get it, or care to get it. . . hi.gif

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I picked this book to make a point, or rather to see how many of you out there, get it, or care to get it. . . hi.gif

 

I get it. thumbsup2.gif

I'd say this comic would grade any where from a 4.5 to a 5.5, but without counting those defects it looks like a pretty solid tight book. I appreciate you scanning one of your lower graded comics. I think it's very pretty even with what's wrong with it thumbsup2.gif

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Anywhere from 5.0 to 5.5.

 

FFB,

Technically I agree, but as a collector I would take this copy over a strict FN/VF 7.0 copy, any day of the week.

 

As a speculator, I wouldn't touch it, but hey it's all about fun! (isn't it?)

 

You mean because of the price discount? How much more expensive is a F/VF copy? Maybe a dollar or two?

 

Prices/schmices, I mean because it's a nicer book, to hold, to read, to own! Imagine this was a AF #15. . . .then how would you feel about it? shocked.gif

 

Personally, chipping bothers me. I find it a lot more distracting than stress marks or creases. But that's just me. confused-smiley-013.gif

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Personally, chipping bothers me. I find it a lot more distracting than stress marks or creases. But that's just me. confused-smiley-013.gif

 

Chipping is . . . as chipping does! smirk.gif

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death,

 

I'm not comparing the two issues at all, what I am saying is that although grading is supposed to be objective and technical, and not subjective, different issues in the same condition will warrant different opinions.

 

I picked this book to make a point, or rather to see how many of you out there, get it, or care to get it. . . hi.gif

 

I understand the point you were attempting to make. However the issue you chose to make it with doesn't make sense. I would be very surprised if anyone bought this issue in this condition for their collection. Someone would only pick it up as a reading copy. Which doesn't make sense to evaluate it's grade. I mean you could spend a few dollars more and get a better looking reader's copy that would also be a nice collection copy.

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death,

 

I'm not comparing the two issues at all, what I am saying is that although grading is supposed to be objective and technical, and not subjective, different issues in the same condition will warrant different opinions.

 

I picked this book to make a point, or rather to see how many of you out there, get it, or care to get it. . . hi.gif

 

I understand the point you were attempting to make. However the issue you chose to make it with doesn't make sense. I would be very surprised if anyone bought this issue in this condition for their collection. Someone would only pick it up as a reading copy. Which doesn't make sense to evaluate it's grade. I mean you could spend a few dollars more and get a better looking reader's copy that would also be a nice collection copy.

 

I respectfully disagree. 893scratchchin-thumb.gif

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death,

 

I'm not comparing the two issues at all, what I am saying is that although grading is supposed to be objective and technical, and not subjective, different issues in the same condition will warrant different opinions.

 

I picked this book to make a point, or rather to see how many of you out there, get it, or care to get it. . . hi.gif

 

I understand the point you were attempting to make. However the issue you chose to make it with doesn't make sense. I would be very surprised if anyone bought this issue in this condition for their collection. Someone would only pick it up as a reading copy. Which doesn't make sense to evaluate it's grade. I mean you could spend a few dollars more and get a better looking reader's copy that would also be a nice collection copy.

 

I respectfully disagree. 893scratchchin-thumb.gif

 

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It's all about technical grade vs. emotional grade (desire/want) vs. eye appeal (presentation).

 

You have to ask yourself, "How desirable is a book given its' age and significance?" Well it's not particularly old, and it's only real claim to fame in comicdom is bearing a highly unfortunate title. So, it's kind of at a disadvantage from the start in terms of emotional grade. The major technical issue (chipping) dimishes the eye appeal, therefore the emotional grade for the book, in my opinion, goes down.

 

A person is more likely to overlook the flaws on a book they want really badly because their emotional attachment to owning a copy is already so high. By the same token, a person who already owns a comic might be equally attached and eager to defend it. That's why most collectors wouldn't care about the chipping if it were an AF15.

 

I hear what your're saying about it being superior in other respects to F/VF copies, but the eye appeal of the chipping makes it a deal breaker as the "keeper" example in a high grade bronze collection. Having said all that BS, I would buy it from you if it wasn't chipped, because the title makes me giggle every time I say it out loud.

 

Thanks for sharing this with us. Good thread! thumbsup2.gif

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It's all about technical grade vs. emotional grade (desire/want) vs. eye appeal (presentation).

 

You have to ask yourself, "How desirable is a book given its' age and significance?" Well it's not particularly old, and it's only real claim to fame in comicdom is bearing a highly unfortunate title. So, it's kind of at a disadvantage from the start in terms of emotional grade. The major technical issue (chipping) dimishes the eye appeal, therefore the emotional grade for the book, in my opinion, goes down.

 

A person is more likely to overlook the flaws on a book they want really badly because their emotional attachment to owning a copy is already so high. By the same token, a person who already owns a comic might be equally attached and eager to defend it. That's why most collectors wouldn't care about the chipping if it were an AF15.

 

I hear what your're saying about it being superior in other respects to F/VF copies, but the eye appeal of the chipping makes it a deal breaker as the "keeper" example in a high grade bronze collection. Having said all that BS, I would buy it from you if it wasn't chipped, because the title makes me giggle every time I say it out loud.

 

Thanks for sharing this with us. Good thread! thumbsup2.gif

 

Now, HE gets it! Great post 893applaud-thumb.gifthumbsup2.gif

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5.0

 

For the what is super bad looking corner on lower left corner and the Marvel chipping at the top also for the minor crease on lower right!

 

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P.S. Its really hard for me to not have the book in front of me while I type this like the professional graders do!

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