Pre hero Marvel and Atlas Registry Points Too Low

[Bomber-Bob]

Fellow collectors, I was informed that the best way to get certain Registry Point Value adjusted was to lobby the Boards. I believe the Registry points do not reflect the current market value for Pre Hero Marvel and Atlas titles. If you agree with me please post.

To make it fun, show off your prized possessions with their point values.

[Bomber-Bob]

Just purchased for 220.00 . Registry Points... 50.

 

[mysterio]

Agreed. The points could stand to at least triple. They are silly low.

[mysterio]

Tales of Suspense #28 CGC 8.0 - Paid $335 last night. Registry points = 120.

 

[mysterio]

Strange Tales #96 CGC 7.5 White Mountain. One of the top 8 graded copies according to the census. Paid $325, worth 55 registry points. Yes, 55 points for the White Mountain copy.

 

[mysterio]

Two more fun examples from the Clink auction last night, though these are not my books.

 

Strange Tales #93 CGC 8.0. Sold for $485, worth 95 registry points.

 

 

 

And a flaming example of the woeful registry points for higher grade (8.5 and up) pre-hero books: last night's Strange Tales #97 in CGC 9.0. Sold for a fairly shocking $7,200 and worth 600 registry points.

 

[mysterio]

One more for this fine morning.

 

Strange Tales #1, my top pickup of 2012 so far. I paid $628 for this copy, and it is worth 170 registry points.

 

[marvel_runs]

We know that registry points aren't specifically geared to equal dollars, so they don't have to exactly accurately match market prices, but the current proportions make it hard to compare collections from who go after high grade bronze books, compared to those who collect these titles.

 

If you look at bang for your buck, the Prehero Marvel/Atlas titles get maybe 1/8th of the registry points for much easier to find high-grade (9.6 and 9.8) x-men between 94 and 142. In that stretch, you can get several hundred registry points for under $100. Not to mention that you can go online and put together 90% or more of that run in 9.6+ in one sitting because they are so plentiful. As the examples above show, with the preheros, the opposite is true, you generally have to pay several hundred dollars to get 100 registry points.

[RICK STARR]

 

Registry points are disgracefully low for the prices being realized now for these books. Overtreet values are so obsolete.

Highest grade for ST 72 worth 260 points!??

 

 

JIM 51 highest grade 550 pts.

 

 

I will post some more as soon as can scan them.

[Bronty]

Agreed. The points could stand to at least triple. They are silly low.

 

Totally agree!!

[Rosland]

[font:Courier New]I'll donate to the cause.

 

Here is a list of auction sales over the last couple of years for Strange Tales numbers 1-79. I usually jot them down, but not always. The points are off by a factor of 3.7 for 9.0+, a factor of 4.8 for 8.0-8.5, and a factor of 4.0 for 7.0-7.5.

 

So a rough average would be a factor of 4. Of course, there are wild variations, especially for scarce issues/grades.

 

Number CGC $ Points $/Points

3 7.0 1421 210 6.8

4 9.2 2445 1600 1.5

5 8.0 926 420 2.2

5 7.5 667 250 2.7

5 7.5 827 250 3.3

6 7.0 605 150 4.0

8 8.5 1235 510 2.4

9 9.0 1635 720 2.3

10 8.0 815 330 2.5

12 8.5 1705 320 5.3

13 9.4 2234 1400 1.6

15 8.5 2211 340 6.5

16 9.2 1553 720 2.2

21 8.0 669 160 4.2

23 7.0 460 85 5.4

35 7.0 165 65 2.5

36 7.5 430 75 5.7

41 8.5 1037 200 5.2

43 7.5 405 75 5.4

44 8.0 1022 130 7.9

45 8.0 827 130 6.4

47 9.0 1332 260 5.1

54 9.2 896 400 2.2

55 9.0 1509 260 5.8

56 8.0 324 110 2.9

60 9.0 3099 280 11.1

64 8.0 2099 130 16.1

65 9.2 2505 380 6.6

72 8.0 871 110 7.9

78 8.0 522 140 3.7

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[Bluetooth-migration]

Two more fun examples from the Clink auction last night, though these are not my books.

 

Strange Tales #93 CGC 8.0. Sold for $485, worth 95 registry points.

 

 

 

And a flaming example of the woeful registry points for higher grade (8.5 and up) pre-hero books: last night's Strange Tales #97 in CGC 9.0. Sold for a fairly shocking $7,200 and worth 600 registry points.

 

 

THERE ARE SOME AWESOME BOOKS IN THIS THREAD.

I am totally behind more recognition for PH books.

[Kevin.J]

We want more points

[Kevin.J]

We want more points

 

Oops, sorry forgot to post a book.

 

[Kevin.J]

By the way is is really terrible if your book is lower grade. Venus = 30, Tales of Suspense =10, I mean come on

 

[mysterio]

By the way is is really terrible if your book is lower grade. Venus = 30, Tales of Suspense =10, I mean come on

 

 

What's the market value on that Venus book (super cool book, by the way)? I would imagine you're paying upwards of $100 when you can find a copy to get your 30 registry points.

[mysterio]

Meanwhile, you have the following post from this thread. So a $500 Strange Tales #93 will net you 95 registry points, while a $30 X-Men purchase gets you 400 points. This is wildly disproportional not only in terms of expense, but in the difficulty of tracking down even 7.0+ pre-hero Marvels.

 

And the game is underway

 

First purchase has been completed.

 

Uncanny X-men CGC 9.6

 

 

Bought for: $31

Registry points: 400

 

% towards Goal: 40%

% budget spent: 31%

On Target: 9% ahead of target

 

Already realized one possible problem will be if I find myself with less than $20 in my budget, which will limit my buying options greatly. I may amend my challenge to the 10:1 ratio, with a target as close to $100 as possible, so if I spend $120, I'll need to amass 1200 points.

 

I have my eye on 5-6 other auctions that are still in ratio for my target... I'll let you know as they close how they turn out. Most of my targets are in the 9.4/9.6 range as I have found the top grade premium for 9.8s hurts my budget too much, and sub 9.4s start to see the steep point drop-off without the same cost drop-off.

 

The sheer sport of this is already immeasurably entertaining...

[Bomber-Bob]

Meanwhile, you have the following post from this thread. So a $500 Strange Tales #93 will net you 95 registry points, while a $30 X-Men purchase gets you 400 points. This is wildly disproportional not only in terms of expense, but in the difficulty of tracking down even 7.0+ pre-hero Marvels.

 

 

Uncanny X-men CGC 9.6

 

 

Bought for: $31

Registry points: 400

 

 

Shocking example of how the Registry point values need adjustment.

An X-Men 143 in 9.6 is no longer significant in rarity or price. I realize the registry values don't necessarily equate to dollar value but it should influence it. And no one can dispute the rarity factor of PreHero Marvels.

[KirbyJack]

I sadly have no CGCed pre-heroes to post, but I am an enthusiastic pre-hero collector. The disparity that has been pointed out here is overwhelming. It's just a matter of time til adjustments are made.

 

The pre-hero thread in silver is one of the most active in the category. 377 pages and counting, and every week I see a comic that, due to scarcity or condition, I'd never have expected to see.

 

Pre-hero Marvels are where the action is! Give them their points!

[Kevin.J]

By the way is is really terrible if your book is lower grade. Venus = 30, Tales of Suspense =10, I mean come on

 

 

What's the market value on that Venus book (super cool book, by the way)? I would imagine you're paying upwards of $100 when you can find a copy to get your 30 registry points.

 

I think about $100 is correct, I mean I didnt buy it for the points and would rather have had a raw higher grade but there are not many out there raw in any grade and if you want this type of book you gotta take what you can get.

Getting more points would be a bonus.