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Am I a complete idiot??

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Total impulse buy. I seem to feel if it i can get it CGC'd at it comes back 9.0 or so, It will be worth quite a bit more than the BIN price. Of course, I wouldn't sell it. Thoughts? I would tell ya'll to not hold back but I know I don't need to worry about that.

 

 

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If nothing else, double covers are cool, and not exactly common. I'm also a big fan of that issue so I may be a little biased. But if your buying it for yourself, don't worry too much about what you paid, just enjoy it.

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I don't know that the exterior cover will actually turn out to be VF, but the interior looks like it could probably be VF/NM. The 2nd poster is right though (even though he probably didn't intend this), it is pretty easy for a scammer to put a cover on top of another book and sell it at a premium due to the "dbl cover rarity". I doubt this is the case here.

 

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It does seem unlikely that it's forged. And it's a book I've always wanted due to it being the first MJ. The double cover just added to the appeal. A lot of money but, screw it, if I didn't get ripped off, I'm happy. Thanks guys, you made me feel a little better. I always get hyper when I spend that much money on a comic. I don't do it often.

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Why would you tear up an obviously decent copy to attach to another? It isn't like a double cover will sell for enough to make that worth it. I don't see why anyone would do that on that book unless they're a complete insufficiently_thoughtful_person.

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Well for the same reason someone trims a cover or restores a book. I'm sure someone could come up with a decent looking cover to toss on a book and make it a "rare" double cover with one cover being higher grade.. it's usually the interior cover that's nicer but it isn't always that way.

 

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Relative to condition my double cover Batman 171 guides for about what yours does in VF/NM and I would not sell it for $200.00. So, I feel you did good. I feel you truly have something special there and I also don't see it as a forgery.

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Why not just buy 2 copies and staple them together? $200 seems like a lot for an "error" that's easily "forged".

 

Well, mainly because the staple holes have to line up perfectly to the dimensions of the book. You can;t just get 2 books and assume the staple holes are going to be an exact matcxh. There will definitely be a bit of overhang above or below. But beyond that, you have to dismantle the book and re-assemble it to get the second cover on. And I assure you there is no "just" to "just buy 2 copies and staple them together". If you do not have a lot of practice and hutzpah, the reassembly will stand out like a black Magic Marker color touch!

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Just so you know, I've finally remembered where I saw that ebay name before..it's because I bought a "NM" MTU #1 from him. Not to dash your hopes, but he overgraded the "NM" MTU #1..I'd call it a VF. Best of luck, let us know how it turns out, still a good deal either way. smile.gif

 

Brian

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Yeah, not surprised. When I buy non-cgc I basically expect a little overgrading. At least the MTU 1 wasn't VG. Then I'd really be worried. I'll put some nice scans up when I get the book and we'll know for sure.

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As far as "forging" double covers goes, it's alot easier said than done. Perform this simple visual observation:

 

Randomly pick out any 10 SIlver age books of yours and MEASURE the distance of the top staple's top tine access hole through the cover from the top of the book, then measure it's distance from the apex of the spine fold. Do you have ANY that show the same, exact coordinates, even on just the TOP staple, let alone the bottom as well? Based on what you just noted, what do you think the chances are of having two different silver age books with the staples located EXACTLY in the same position with respect to the front cover? NOW, what are the chances of having two Spiderman 42's with the staples located EXACTLY in the same positions? We haven't even taken into consideration with respect to relative art-work (all books folded in a slightly different place..and coincidentally, the distances between the staples themselves being different on each book and relative position to each other and the art work!!!). While an interior page may be mated effectively, because old staple holes are more "hidden", not subject to as much scrutiny, old staple holes on a cover would stand out like a sore thumb and if the interior cover on a double cover comic was in LOWER grade, this in itslef would raise questions necessitating deeper scrutiny. The chances of that #42 double cover being forged without the evidence of extra staple holes are exponentially astronomical.

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