What Was the First Appearance of Spider-Man's Black Costume? 1 1

[icp004]

On 12/21/2022 at 5:35 PM, ThothAmon said:

I remember the timeline the same. Book was  a big seller at Empire Comics on Mt. Hope in Rochester and I bought plenty. 

 I can still remember seeing the black costume on the ASM252 and SW8 covers and thinking “this is gonna be worth something one day.  I better buy two copies”! 😂

[Lazyboy]

On 12/21/2022 at 5:16 PM, icp004 said:

 I can still remember seeing the black costume on the ASM252 and SW8 covers and thinking “this is gonna be worth something one day.  I better buy two copies”! 😂

Why would you think MSHSW8 was anything special upon seeing it? The black costume had been on dozens of covers before that.

[jdandns]

Probably because it was finally showing how he actually got the costume. I know I was ready to find out.. Of course, I was 13 at the time and incredibly, felt that Secret Wars was better than Crisis on Infinite Earths, which shames me still and indicates how insufficiently thoughtful of a person I was back then.

For what it's worth. Secret Wars #8 alone did end up being more valuable than the other 11 issues in the series combined by a wide margin.

[Lurker89]

On 7/2/2019 at 9:23 PM, Lurker89 said:

 

Yayyy rehash the argument let the boards burn with fury hatred and ignorance muhuhahahaha

 

but yeah the answer is 252 .... Imo not important only as a Spidey suit but also first symbiote and key to the birth of Venom

 Venom who first appears in ASM 299 full page with a line but you know whatever I have both 299 and 300 NM so if we want 300 to be FA fine by me (*stirs pot)

 

 

 

On 12/21/2022 at 4:39 PM, AGGIEZ said:

 

More than just a full page. He's on 2 pages, 

Sir I stirred this pot 3+ years ago.

I don't think it's safe to consume.

But your necro skills are top notch, for this i appluad you. 

[AGGIEZ]

On 1/2/2023 at 8:38 PM, Lurker89 said:

 

Sir I stirred this pot 3+ years ago.

I don't think it's safe to consume.

But your necro skills are top notch, for this i appluad you. 

Ok, so all Venom discussion is off the table because you’ve already had it? Got it…shut the boards down! This guy has already covered it… 

[Lurker89]

On 1/4/2023 at 8:40 PM, AGGIEZ said:

Ok, so all Venom discussion is off the table because you’ve already had it? Got it…shut the boards down! This guy has already covered it… 

Where did I say that.... I thought it was funny a comment of mine from 3+ years ago got Necro'd and made a joke about it being past its expiration date 😘.

[Lazyboy]

On 12/21/2022 at 4:39 PM, AGGIEZ said:

On 7/2/2019 at 9:23 PM, Lurker89 said:

but yeah the answer is 252 .... Imo not important only as a Spidey suit but also first symbiote and key to the birth of Venom

 Venom who first appears in ASM 299 full page with a line but you know whatever I have both 299 and 300 NM so if we want 300 to be FA fine by me (*stirs pot)

 

More than just a full page. He's on 2 pages

Which changes nothing.

Plus, Venom is also obviously in ASM 298.

[DocCRR]

What about the 'books' that predate the comics ASM 252 ? Not much spec value .. but still of importance ?

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[Lazyboy]

On 1/5/2023 at 5:07 PM, DocCRR said:

What about the 'books' that predate the comics ASM 252 ? Not much spec value .. but still of importance ?

No. Ads and industry/hobby publications don't matter.

 insufficiently_thoughtful_persons may hype them and suckers may overpay for them, but they still don't matter.

[davidpg]

Having not read a new book since the 2010s, has it ever been explained/retconned how the symbiote popped out of that machine in SW8?

[Lazyboy]

On 1/6/2023 at 7:07 AM, davidpg said:

Having not read a new book since the 2010s, has it ever been explained/retconned how the symbiote popped out of that machine in SW8?

Long before the 2010s (or I would have no idea either), it was explained that it was a prison module that the Beyonder grabbed from one of the many worlds he used to create Battleworld.