plasticmoz Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 for all of you that are so worried about the "condition" that books are in, there are CGC'd copies of most all first prints available on eBay. Step up and pay the piper, problem solved. (thumbs u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hog Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Just curious about that page Krighton, can you see the blue line or is it all inked? Nice page, this is a nerd drafting question. I can't tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ningabe Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 I don't know much of anything..never been able to go to a convention...only collect for myself....don't have a LCS and use this site to figure what might be a good book to try. Nowhere Men being one of them..then some of the comic creators start interacting with their fans here (Which is AWESOME) and drum up support and excitement for their books...then people are surprised and outraged when collectors get excited to own the latest variant? I appreciated Menaces efforts but understand the problems it caused... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hog Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Just curious... Can we start a thread about this topic somewhere else? I feel like the horse is dead and I'm sick of kicking it. I'd like to talk NWM if possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThoseBackPages Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Mr Hog, i hear you. But since the next issue is a month away, other things are going to be talked about. this issue is new and not everyone reading the boards daily. back on topic of the book, i love the fact that Ringo is Black! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperBird Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 (edited) I think this was handled really poorly, and I have let both Menace and the CBLDF know that. It doesn't matter if it's for charity or for profit, making show exclusives available prior to the show is not good form. Many people paying to get into conventions are doing so with the intention of buying things they can only get at the con. 500 copies are going to the convention, and I think it's really $hitty to create a situation whereby scalpers lay claim to a large percentage of those copies in advance. -e.s. Eric Stephenson Publisher Image Comics, Inc. www.imagecomics.com I agree with this, and frankly, the profiteering going on is making me a little sick of this hobby. When it gets to the point where speculators and flippers are buying entire stocks of hot books just to resell, and average joe comic collector can't even buy an issue at a store —on the day it comes out—it makes me question what the point of it all is. Edited February 19, 2013 by mattbird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hog Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Ohhhh once Friday hits there will be lots to talk about! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N/A Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 I think this was handled really poorly, and I have let both Menace and the CBLDF know that. It doesn't matter if it's for charity or for profit, making show exclusives available prior to the show is not good form. Many people paying to get into conventions are doing so with the intention of buying things they can only get at the con. 500 copies are going to the convention, and I think it's really $hitty to create a situation whereby scalpers lay claim to a large percentage of those copies in advance. -e.s. Eric Stephenson Publisher Image Comics, Inc. www.imagecomics.com I agree with this, and frankly, the profiteering going on is making me a little sick of this hobby. When it gets to the point where speculators and flippers are buying entire stocks of hot books just to resell, and average joe comic collector can't even buy an issue at a store —on the day it comes out—it makes me question what the point of it all is. The secondary market is just that....secondary. The primary market should always get 1st dibs. That being said CBLDF was getting access to funds thanks to Menace. Also it's easy to comment now but I don't recall seeing comments like this when the thread was actually alive and well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taco Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 I think this was handled really poorly, and I have let both Menace and the CBLDF know that. It doesn't matter if it's for charity or for profit, making show exclusives available prior to the show is not good form. Many people paying to get into conventions are doing so with the intention of buying things they can only get at the con. 500 copies are going to the convention, and I think it's really $hitty to create a situation whereby scalpers lay claim to a large percentage of those copies in advance. -e.s. Eric Stephenson Publisher Image Comics, Inc. www.imagecomics.com I agree with this, and frankly, the profiteering going on is making me a little sick of this hobby. When it gets to the point where speculators and flippers are buying entire stocks of hot books just to resell, and average joe comic collector can't even buy an issue at a store —on the day it comes out—it makes me question what the point of it all is. Isn't that how everything is? You look at people who collect sneakers that camp out for hours to day for certain pairs and there will always be people there to sell for profit. Some people even sell there spot in line without even picking up the product. They sell out halfway through the line. LCS offer pull lists that anyone can take advantage of to get a copy. And everyone knows about Midtown and everywhere else offering previews two months in advance. It is your fault for not doing that. The limit of how many copies there are is a huge appeal to certain issues. You look at all the variants and they sell out quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katchoo Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 I agree with this, and frankly, the profiteering going on is making me a little sick of this hobby. When it gets to the point where speculators and flippers are buying entire stocks of hot books just to resell, and average joe comic collector can't even buy an issue at a store —on the day it comes out—it makes me question what the point of it all is. For what it's worth, I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carter3175 Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 You guys can bet from now on, Image will be rethinking the way exclusives are distributed pre/at the show. We've got the publisher's attention now... OMG, these are true words that you speak. I would almost bet that they do not broadcast exclusives to the public. Just find out what they are when you get there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jreezy Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 I think this was handled really poorly, and I have let both Menace and the CBLDF know that. It doesn't matter if it's for charity or for profit, making show exclusives available prior to the show is not good form. Many people paying to get into conventions are doing so with the intention of buying things they can only get at the con. 500 copies are going to the convention, and I think it's really $hitty to create a situation whereby scalpers lay claim to a large percentage of those copies in advance. -e.s. Eric Stephenson Publisher Image Comics, Inc. www.imagecomics.com I agree with this, and frankly, the profiteering going on is making me a little sick of this hobby. When it gets to the point where speculators and flippers are buying entire stocks of hot books just to resell, and average joe comic collector can't even buy an issue at a store —on the day it comes out—it makes me question what the point of it all is. Isn't that how everything is? You look at people who collect sneakers that camp out for hours to day for certain pairs and there will always be people there to sell for profit. Some people even sell there spot in line without even picking up the product. They sell out halfway through the line. LCS offer pull lists that anyone can take advantage of to get a copy. And everyone knows about Midtown and everywhere else offering previews two months in advance. It is your fault for not doing that. The limit of how many copies there are is a huge appeal to certain issues. You look at all the variants and they sell out quick. Bingo. I'm a sneaker head and I collect jordans. This happens with everything that has hype or is hot. People who wear a size 8 in Jordan 11s will still buy a size 18 if their size is out, just so they can flip it on the secondary market for a profit. It is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hog Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Hahaha, this thread has now gone to tennis shoes. While I don't argue the logic - its a valid point - but the degradation in context astounds. If someone could kick said dead horse (et la Revival cover 1b) with said tennis shoes, my world would be complete. Mind you, I can't stop reading... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsJustRyan Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Anything collectible is bought and sold and bought and sold again. Period. Once everyone wraps their head around that, things will be better. I'm glad the issue was resolved the way it was and hope this has been a learning experience for many. Frankly, if someone offered you a book you wanted in a legitimate sale, why wouldn't you buy it? Granted there are extenuating circumstances here, but this all seemed normal until it got insane and morphed into what it became. I have never been to a con - would love to go, but alas - and I would be upset if I didn't get a book as an attendee. We can keep talking about it, but I think plenty has been said on the subject. Lessons learned. Next week, it will be forgotten (with the exception of the first one that goes for insane $$$ on eBay ) Regarding Mania Markets: Someone asked me (more than once) is this a bubble? I think - generally - more people are coming into comics of late and that is what is driving the market. Will the 'bubble' burst. Of course. When people like me and you walk away and start collecting stamps, or vintage art, or whatever kookie thing you can name. R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallMeSang Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Beanie babies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taco Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 I think comics in general are going from sub-culture to mainstream culture. In large part to The Walking Dead. But also Image is it's on little sub-culture in the comic world. You don't see pages and pages on the New 52 thread of Batman #11 or whatever variant is pricey now being sold out right away. Image is limited, so it has appeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThoseBackPages Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 i think there are many newbies like me that want little to do with the BigBloatedTwo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colicab Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 i think there are many newbies like me that want little to do with the BigBloatedTwo +1 it took a full year of being back into comics for the first time in 16 years to even touch a Marvel book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexus Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Respect the con attendees, respect the creators, respect the comic book publishers, respect the limits at your local LCSs.... respect everyone. +1. Very well said. You should ramble more often. (thumbs u What about when a dealer drops a huge stack of books for SS in front of a creator during a public signing? Is that respectful to creators? Or the con attendees in line behind them? Seriously, though, where do you draw the line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hog Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 I can't stop myself from wanting my silver keys, but agree with TBP, the en mass production and disregard for quality stories drives me away from most of the new BigBloatedTwo. That said, I've given almost everything in the new Now roll-out a chance, and continue to. Nothing outside of a very select few is worth it to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
