Holden Caulfield Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 I just did a ebay search on Nowhere Men and it is flooded with them. Im surprised of the current value with so many available. I saw this with ToT. Lot's available, still fetching premiums. It's the "Invisible Hand" at work. The demand is there and many are willing to supply but, a sale will not occur until the buyer makes an offer that the seller is willing to accept. Is that macro or microeconomics? I guess that depends on how you view yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazzno Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 (edited) I just did a ebay search on Nowhere Men and it is flooded with them. Im surprised of the current value with so many available. I saw this with ToT. Lot's available, still fetching premiums. It's the "Invisible Hand" at work. The demand is there and many are willing to supply but, a sale will not occur until the buyer makes an offer that the seller is willing to accept. Is that macro or microeconomics? Micro .... (I knew my Economics degree would come in handy one day!) Edited February 19, 2013 by Jazzno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e.s. Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 back on topic of the book, i love the fact that Ringo is Black! Who says there's a Ringo? I know you like to harp on The Beatles thing a lot, but none of the characters are meant to represent anyone from the band. The Beatles actually exist within this world -- they're mentioned twice in the first issue -- and they're referred to as "the Fab Four of science" as a reference to The Beatles' own success. -e.s. Eric Stephenson Publisher Image Comics, Inc. www.imagecomics.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awakeintheashes Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Here's an article to back up Ryan's point that Katchoo (sp?) had an issue with or something. Not really sure. http://blog.comichron.com/2013/02/overall-print-comics-market-topped-700.html I long for the days when we were arguing over Invincible 19. I guess I'm just old fashioned like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThoseBackPages Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 back on topic of the book, i love the fact that Ringo is Black! Who says there's a Ringo? I know you like to harp on The Beatles thing a lot, but none of the characters are meant to represent anyone from the band. The Beatles actually exist within this world -- they're mentioned twice in the first issue -- and they're referred to as "the Fab Four of science" as a reference to The Beatles' own success. -e.s. Eric Stephenson Publisher Image Comics, Inc. www.imagecomics.com i know they arent meant to represent anyone, but you cant deny that even the title of the book reminds at least some of us of the band. Also, in issue three when the scientists are being interviewed on what certainly appears to be the Di ck Cavett Show, also a nod to the beatles being on the show (albeit not as a group, but as individuals) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThoseBackPages Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 oh, and theres ALWAYS a Ringo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexus Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Without hype and speculation, air Jordan's would be just another pair of shoes, iPhone would be another phone, and comic books would be another magazine struggling to survive on the shelf. These are the typs of things that makes the news and drive the market. It's a healthy symbiote and will draw more people to conventions and towards collecting. Regardless of who gets the cbldf copies, the secondary market will dictate the next price that people are willing to pay. The hype created by this speculation frenzy is a double-edged sword. There are a few exceptions, but when titles are no longer viewed as instant moneymakers, they tend to crash hard. I do agree with Solar, however, that some publishers/creators have been complicit in this. We all know how collectors think and behave. It is a very easy thing to manipulate. Not talking about this CBLDF deal specifically, as it was clearly meant to be a benefit for CBLDF, but variants/ltd ed sparkly covers in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimik Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 I just did a ebay search on Nowhere Men and it is flooded with them. Im surprised of the current value with so many available. I saw this with ToT. Lot's available, still fetching premiums. The flooded market is having a huge impact on Nowhere Men sales right now. It took 17 hours to have the BIN hit on this today. Last week it would have taken less than 12 hours....... http://www.ebay.com/itm/281066840943?ssPageName=STRK:MESOX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1559.l2649#ht_596wt_1141 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kevin76 Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 I think comics in general are going from sub-culture to mainstream culture. I think - generally - more people are coming into comics of late and that is what is driving the market. Evidence? When people like me and you walk away and start collecting stamps, or vintage art, or whatever kookie thing you can name. The fact that comics are being compared to shoes and stamps and there's talk about people walking away to "collect" whatever next pops up on the market as "hot" kind of sums up what I find distasteful here. I know, I know, I'm on a collector's forum but the way the financial rewards of buying comics WAY overshadows any love for the medium at all saddens me. I'm new here. I found this place when after spending too much at xmas I went to find out if any of my comics were worth anything so I could help my bank balance a little. I've stuck around because it was fascinating to me. But I'm starting to think maybe it isn't for me. I love comics. So when I hear people rejoicing at low print runs and refusing to buy a book just because it's a mini and therefore unlikely to ever be worth any money... or sometimes even not buying any book that isn't Image, I kind of despair. This is one of the most active comics forums on the internet and for me, it sucks that it is driven by money. What about when a dealer drops a huge stack of books for SS in front of a creator during a public signing? Is that respectful to creators? No. Or the con attendees in line behind them? No. You're on the Collectors Society forum and you're surprised that the discussion centers around the financial aspect of collecting comics? CGC exists to commoditize comics. I mean, you just typed that you came here to find out what your comics were worth so you could sell them and pay bills. Buying, selling, trading and collecting comics is a part of the hobby that isn't going away. It's even encouraged by the publishers and creators. Why would you release an item limited to 500 if it wasn't to make it a 'hot' collectible? There's no other reason. Most people here love comics and read them regularly. Otherwise, they would buy and sell stocks or flip houses or something. This pretty much what I said earlier... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin76 Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Just because someone hordes and resells doesnt mean they dont love comics as well. It is indeed another aspect of comics I enjoy Yes exactly... No one plays football just because they want a big paycheck, they put in the time, the hours of practice and preparation to get better and better because they love it, but they also want the big contract. Same thing with comics or sportscards or coins, people love what they sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsJustRyan Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 You're on the Collectors Society forum and you're surprised that the discussion centers around the financial aspect of collecting comics? CGC exists to commoditize comics. I mean, you just typed that you came here to find out what your comics were worth so you could sell them and pay bills. Buying, selling, trading and collecting comics is a part of the hobby that isn't going away. It's even encouraged by the publishers and creators. Why would you release an item limited to 500 if it wasn't to make it a 'hot' collectible? There's no other reason. Most people here love comics and read them regularly. Otherwise, they would buy and sell stocks or flip houses or something This is spot on and I wish collectors/creators/comic store owners/purists would realize this dogma and stop acting like it's a personal thing against them. Solar, brilliant post ! (thumbs u Yay Solar and Comicartfan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsJustRyan Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 A quick detail (derail) Since someone brought up shoes (quick derail - although this has been a continual derail). There is a site called SoleCollector.com where people have these types of discussions, only it's shoes instead of comics. I'm sure they argue about speculation, flipping, and hype as well. Nike artificially increases demand by limiting supply... I also found this interesting tidbit to backup someone elses story... Sneaker Flippers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krighton Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 you can't do a quick derail when the train has already left the tracks and plummeted off the bridge and into the river. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awakeintheashes Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 you can't do a quick derail when the train has already left the tracks and plummeted off the bridge and into the river. You best watch out because that train was full of crystallized gorillas. I reckon they've already escaped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimik Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Eric, we need #4 out asap to get this thread back on track! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThoseBackPages Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Eric, we need #4 out asap to get this thread back on track! March 13th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e.s. Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 March 13th We may have some copies at ECCC. -e.s. Eric Stephenson Publisher Image Comics, Inc. www.imagecomics.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wushugushu Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Awesome! I wonder if we can get some E.S. and N.B. SS while at ECCC as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katchoo Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Here's an article to back up Ryan's point that Katchoo (sp?) had an issue with or something. Not really sure. http://blog.comichron.com/2013/02/overall-print-comics-market-topped-700.html I long for the days when we were arguing over Invincible 19. I guess I'm just old fashioned like that. That doesn't really back up anything. I could use those same stats to back up the fact comic books are increasing in price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
