red modern label vs blue

[dolphinsrwj]

for the modern cgc comics would you rather have the red(old label) or the blue? imo i would rather have the red because 10 years down the road they will all be blue with few from the very begining that are red.now i know some people could care less,but all my red 9.8s seem to look better than the blue 9.8s and seem to have been graded tougher.anybody have any thoughts on this?

[Hensley300]

Hello dolphin, I am not so particular as to which label I have. As long as my 9.8's all have white pages I dont care which label. See ya on ebay

[blowout]

Are you sure that you would want a red label ten years down the road?

 

CGC have stated publically that their holders will only preserve a book for 7 years.

So a ten year old red modern label will be a sign of a book that is in decline.

[supapimp]

good frickin point blowout

[Hensley300]

Well, then I guess i'll be sending those red labels in for a recasing in a good 5-6 years. Blue labels here I come. But I think Ill stall as long as I can cuz I got a good 8-12 red labeled 9.8's.

[murph0]

I've only ever bought 2 red label books. One was an ASM 150 that was CGC 9.4, that I sent back in and got a 9.8 on. And the other is an ASM 239 CGC 9.4, that IMO they are just nuts. I'd send it in but I don't really care since the book itself is worth less then the grading would cost, it's easily a 9.8 as well.

 

Brian

[chrisco37]

Brian -

 

Did you crack them open and send, or did you send them in for re-slabbing and they graded it as well?

 

I have some "red books" I thought were higher than they were graded and may send them in.

 

Chris

[murph0]

I only sent in that ASM 150..at the time I just kinda tried to open it..but didn't want to put a whole lot of pressure on it so I just sent it in unopened

 

Brian

[Bugaboo-migration]

Are you telling me you sent in a 9.4 (still in the case) for a re-grade and cgc admitted they were wrong with that grade and gave it a 9.8

[murph0]

Wow you CAN comprehend, I didn't realize that you could not only read but also understand what you were reading!

Congratulations!

Btw this is the exact attitude that causes ghost books on the CGC census. You send in the book, the graders don't even see the label. They don't even take it into consideration.

 

Brian

[supapimp]

i wonder if they even looked at the previous grader notes

[COI]

Yeah, but I would have thought that they wouldn't admit such an inconsistency. If this isn't the case, then my hat goes off to their honesty.

[Bugaboo-migration]

That was my point as well......but murph0's been stuck in stupid smartass mode since 1977 and missed it. It's hard to believe they wouldn't even look at the old label or notes for the book.

 

I just figured ghost books on the census were caused by people cracking them out of the slabs and re-submitting them for grading as a different book.

[dolphinsrwj]

what is the best way to open the case without cracking it?

[Bugaboo-migration]

If I knew, I'd be a rich man selling P.O.S. cgc 9.6 books to you guys and just saying that cgc was generous with them .

[murph0]

They admit nothing, someone cracks it open and then someone else grades it. As far as I can tell they know nothing of any label other then the billing department charges you less. This was posted before that a previous grade has ZERO bearing on a possible regrade.

 

Brian

[dolphinsrwj]

LMAO no i mean how do you just open it if you want to resumit the comic.is there a special way or do you just pull the opening on the side,because i have a lot of red labels that i think should be higher than what they are graded.i wonder if there is anybody out there that could open it without breaking the corners.they could make a lot of money if they could.

[Darthdiesel]

the infamous how-to post by Comic Keys....may still be in the penalty box where all the banned threads go?

[cd4ever]

Hate to say this but I have to agree with Bugaboo. I'm stunned that they would remove a book from a 9.4 case and regrade it as 9.8. Clearly the people who graded the book did not know it was originally a 9.4 or this would not have happened.

 

[murph0]

No, what happened is they were far too strict on the books early on. So people complained, and they loosened up some.

The whole "it'll get the same grade" myth is the key reason why I was asking CGC to do something else to try to increase people resubmitting with the slab rather then just cracking it out and starting over. That's what is going to end up making the census very hard to use.

 

Brian