There will never be a 9.8... Copper style.

[B-Smooth]

There's a cool thread in the bronze section with the same name. Are there any books in this age, other than the obvious micro print runs, that might not ever have a 9.8? I mean books readily accesible to the masses. Or, say something like a print run of turtles #1 and up? 3000? In another thread it showed it took years to find star wars 107, DD 166, and even Joe 21 for a few years. Are there any left (somewhat sought after books) to be uncovered? My gut feeling is that because of the massive print runs, they'll all have a 9.8 eventually.

[dupont2005]

I don't know too much about print runs, but for CA standards TMNT was pretty much a micro print run. I have garbage self published comics from the era and the indicia states a print run of like 20,000 copies.

[B-Smooth]

So probably no Marvels or DC's?

[pubmonkey]

Perhaps GiJoe #63 in 3rd print So Much Fun variant

 

 

I believe there were only 5000 printed. There are no crappy copies anywhere let alone in high grade. I think there is a sole 9.2 on the census. I sent mine in to get slabbed but can't imagine it getting more than a 7...

[Bronty]

I would say no marvels or dcs at all. It would have to be something indie, in limited #, and with pervasive production issues to boot.

[B-Smooth]

Perhaps GiJoe #63 in 3rd print So Much Fun variant

 

 

I believe there were only 5000 printed. There are no crappy copies anywhere let alone in high grade. I think there is a sole 9.2 on the census. I sent mine in to get slabbed but can't imagine it getting more than a 7...

I was thinking along the same lines. Marvel/DC reprints with small numbers, and as Bronty mentions, maybe a few independents. Good ones. Not the handmade, 10 copy, vanity projects from the era.

[ShieldAgent]

Perhaps GiJoe #63 in 3rd print So Much Fun variant

 

 

I believe there were only 5000 printed. There are no crappy copies anywhere let alone in high grade. I think there is a sole 9.2 on the census. I sent mine in to get slabbed but can't imagine it getting more than a 7...

 

I have several copies that would fall in the crappy range.

[dupont2005]

I think a lot of those vanity projects are "the good ones."

 

But I agree for arguments sake it should be stuff that was actually distributed to comic shops at least regionally. Or mail order but I'd say a print run of a few hundred, maybe 500 should be minimum.

[mschmidt]

I doubt we'll ever see a CGC 9.8 copy of the Miracleman 3D non-3D variant.

[B-Smooth]

I think a lot of those vanity projects are "the good ones."

 

But I agree for arguments sake it should be stuff that was actually distributed to comic shops at least regionally. Or mail order but I'd say a print run of a few hundred, maybe 500 should be minimum.

I agree, the print run should at least be 500-1000 to be considered for this discussuon. By vanity project, I meant the really bad stuff only family members would have bought. There's a bunch in this time period. They know who they are!

[B-Smooth]

Would a good example be; Tales from the Latern = no... Bone #1- whatever = yes? I only use this as a sample, because there are a few Bone 1's in 9.8 But, would this be a good example of the type of books that should and shouldn't be part of the discussion?

[DocGo]

Would a good example be; Tales from the Latern = no... Bone #1- whatever = yes? I only use this as a sample, because there are a few Bone 1's in 9.8 But, would this be a good example of the type of books that should and shouldn't be part of the discussion?

 

I've never seen a high grade copy of Tales From the Lantern. There have been maybe 8 or 9 sales on eBay since 2007 and the nicest was maybe a 7.0. The books are too big to be graded anyway.

 

Every single digit Bone book (that went into multiple printings) has a 9.8 at the moment so you can never put them in a "There will never be a 9.8..." conversation. However, several of them are very difficult. By far, the two hardest ones are #5 (Rich_Henn's two SS 9.8s are the only NM/MTs) and #6 (only 1 9.8 in existence). I'd say both issues probably had print runs under 6000.

 

For those not in the know, almost the entire series has black back covers which is probably why a lot haven't been sent in for grading (non-high grade copies are very apparent). Bone #1, however, has value at almost any grade so these issues will continue to get graded at almost every level.

[dupont2005]

Would a good example be; Tales from the Latern = no... Bone #1- whatever = yes? I only use this as a sample, because there are a few Bone 1's in 9.8 But, would this be a good example of the type of books that should and shouldn't be part of the discussion?

What's the print run on Tales From The Lantern? That comic is high on my want list.

[B-Smooth]

According to valiantman, Vampirella 113, and uncle Scrooge 179 are on the haven't found yet list. Edit: add the Joe 63 SMF nightmare to the list.

[seanfingh]

Would a good example be; Tales from the Latern = no... Bone #1- whatever = yes? I only use this as a sample, because there are a few Bone 1's in 9.8 But, would this be a good example of the type of books that should and shouldn't be part of the discussion?

What's the print run on Tales From The Lantern? That comic is high on my want list.

 

We see a few more than average here in Ohio. Most believe that it is a print run of 1000. It is the size of a slightly larger digest that is superfat.

[FlyingDonut]

I was going to say I, Lusiphur 1, but there's 5 9.6s.

[Green]

Perhaps GiJoe #63 in 3rd print So Much Fun variant

 

 

I believe there were only 5000 printed. There are no crappy copies anywhere let alone in high grade. I think there is a sole 9.2 on the census. I sent mine in to get slabbed but can't imagine it getting more than a 7...

I dont know of any 9.8 smf variants. Highest ive ever seen is 9.4.

[B-Smooth]

All the ones I've had never went above VF-

[dupont2005]

Would a good example be; Tales from the Latern = no... Bone #1- whatever = yes? I only use this as a sample, because there are a few Bone 1's in 9.8 But, would this be a good example of the type of books that should and shouldn't be part of the discussion?

What's the print run on Tales From The Lantern? That comic is high on my want list.

 

We see a few more than average here in Ohio. Most believe that it is a print run of 1000. It is the size of a slightly larger digest that is superfat.

Thanks

[B-Smooth]

Hulk 377 (3rd.) Not with that horrible black back. All of those printing scuffs and lines are a killer. I'm surprised there are 9.6's. Do they give the book a break because most of the flaws are printing ones?