The Movie Plot Hole Thread

[bane]

Love the Lord of the Rings films. Then a boardie posted this insanely logical observation:

Why didn't they just fly the giant eagle to Mount Doom?

 

 

Still enjoy the films, but damn.

 

Wouldn't have worked when Sauron was still alive prior to the ring already being destroyed. The all-seeing eye would have sent the ring-wraiths to impede and attack any giant eagles flying towards the mountain.

 

ring-wraiths? No problem. Now with Aragorns Swordy-Torch you can repel all 9 of the ring-wraiths and send them running for the hills.

 

Swordy-Torch... in the shops in time for Christmas.

[PEP]

In the first Matrix. When Morpheus brings Neo into the Matrix

to explain to him what it is.

 

He says: "There are fields...endless fields,

were human beings are no longer born. We are grown.

For the longest time, I wouldn't believe it...and then I saw the

fields with my own eyes. Watch them liquefy the dead, so

they could be fed intravenously to the living."

 

"Liquefy the dead" So, if they liquefy the dead.

Why did the machines just flush Neo when he was first

awakened in his pod and just dump him a sewer where

he could easily be picked up by Morpheus's ship?? Instead

of putting him through a "shredder / food processor"

on his way down to be liquified into food???

Also, how does Cipher get into the Matrix to talk to the Agent at dinner? You need to have someone to connect/disconnect you.

[Badger]

Independence Day. The world is saved because the aliens are Mac-compatible.

 

 

Hahaha - man that has bugged me for years (being in IT). The amazing part is they actually show the step where the team is "connecting to host." It would have been one thing to gloss over that, but to SHOW the networking - hahahaha.

 

Yeah, that bugged me as well (yep, I'm in I.T.). I was dealing with half-a-dozen Macs on my network at the time and it was a freaking pain in the butt to get them to communicate with the SUN, SGI, and Windows NT computers that the rest of the company used.

 

To see the Alien Computers apparently using AppleTalk just made me scream, "Nooooo!"

[Reno McCoy]

I can't believe that the latest Batman movie wasn't mention? Have a broken back Batman, well just get some old dude to string you up on tug boat grade rope and punch you in the back and you'll be up and about in no time!

 

Now you've done it.

 

Don't forget that his cartilage miraculously regenerates as well.

 

Bat-medicine.

 

[sckao]

Love the Lord of the Rings films. Then a boardie posted this insanely logical observation:

Why didn't they just fly the giant eagle to Mount Doom?

 

 

Still enjoy the films, but damn.

 

Wouldn't have worked when Sauron was still alive prior to the ring already being destroyed. The all-seeing eye would have sent the ring-wraiths to impede and attack any giant eagles flying towards the mountain.

 

ring-wraiths? No problem. Now with Aragorns Swordy-Torch you can repel all 9 of the ring-wraiths and send them running for the hills.

 

Swordy-Torch... in the shops in time for Christmas.

 

This article is from the Tolkien Newsgroups FAQ, by Steuard Jensen with numerous contributions by others.

 

http://tolkien.slimy.com/faq/

 

 

46 Why didn't the Nazgul take the Ring at Weathertop? (Tolkien)

 

The Nazgul withdrew from Weathertop despite a five-against-one

fighting advantage and with the One Ring almost within their grasp.

Many share Aragorn's confusion about this: "I cannot think why they

have gone and do not attack again." There are many possible reasons,

and the true answer is likely to be a combination of them.

 

Most agree that Aragorn's analysis in "Flight to the Ford" is at

least in part accurate:

 

I don't think they expected to be resisted... They will come again

another night, if we cannot escape. They are only waiting, because

they think that their purpose is almost accomplished, and that the

Ring cannot fly much further.

 

Many see this explanation as inadequate: the Ring seems like too great

a prize for the Nazgul to take such foolish caution. Some quote Letter

#210 where Tolkien says that "They have no great physical power against

the fearless", arguing that Aragorn was able to drive the Nazgul away.

However, this quote does not preclude them from having "normal"

physical power, and the Witch King was willing to do battle with

skilled warriors at other times.

 

Some believe that Frodo's cry of "Elbereth" helped drive the Nazgul

away: after remarking that Frodo's sword had not harmed the Witch King,

Aragorn says, "More deadly to [the Witch King] was the name of

Elbereth." This idea is clearer in an early draft: in _The Return of

the Shadow_ ("At Rivendell"), a fragment includes Gandalf saying, "Not

to mention courage - and also swords and a strange and ancient name.

Later on I must be told about that curious sword of yours, and how you

knew the name of Elbereth." (Presumably Gandalf is discussing this

very question.) However, in the final text, it is Aragorn who comments

on the name, but he never used it himself. Because of this, some

interpret Aragorn's comment as nothing more than a statement of just

how ineffective Frodo's sword slash had been.

 

A final factor which some believe led the Nazgul to turn away was

Frodo's sword from the Barrow Downs. As discussed in question III.C.2,

many believe that the Nazgul were afraid of the barrow blades. The

description of the attack on Weathertop is at least consistent with

this theory: after Frodo put on the Ring, three of the wraiths rushed towards him. Desperate, he drew his own sword, and it seemed

to him that it flickered red, as if it was a firebrand. Two of the

figures halted. The third... sprang forward and bore down on Frodo.

 

All of the wraiths seem to have left immediately after the Witch King

stabbed Frodo. As Frodo was seeing into the "wraith world" with the

Ring on, some read the description of his sword flickering red as an

indication that it had some overt magical power there.

 

On the other hand, the red flicker could have been just reflected

firelight, which often remained bright even to one wearing the Ring. In

fact, there is no clear evidence that the attack did not go just as the

Nazgul planned. Some also object that the Nazgul would not have feared

Frodo's sword because the Witch King was able to break it from a

distance in "Flight to the Ford". Others counter that such a spell may

have taken some time to prepare, and that Tolkien seems not to have

considered this a problem in the first draft of the text (when the

Nazgul's fear of the swords was explicit).

 

 

 

[Ditch Fahrenheit]

This thread is nerd-tastic.

 

[Transplant]

Man. There are some freaking nerds up in here.

 

Thank God.

[DiceX]

Man. There are some freaking nerds up in here.

 

Thank God.

 

Takes one to know one.

 

 

[999ghosts]

How come villains capture the hero(s) and plans to kill Her/him/them later in the movie so she/he/them can get saved?

 

Why not just kill them when they get them. A lot of movies would not only have an ending where the villain wins, lots of movies would be shorter too (and that would be a good thing on a lot of junk coming out).

 

And we would get rid of one major plot hole in many movies.

[Doohickamabob]

How come villains capture the hero(s) and plans to kill Her/him/them later in the movie so she/he/them can get saved.

Then there would only be one James Bond movie, and it would be 20 minutes long.

[Reno McCoy]

Love the Lord of the Rings films. Then a boardie posted this insanely logical observation:

Why didn't they just fly the giant eagle to Mount Doom?

 

 

Still enjoy the films, but damn.

 

Wouldn't have worked when Sauron was still alive prior to the ring already being destroyed. The all-seeing eye would have sent the ring-wraiths to impede and attack any giant eagles flying towards the mountain.

 

ring-wraiths? No problem. Now with Aragorns Swordy-Torch you can repel all 9 of the ring-wraiths and send them running for the hills.

 

Swordy-Torch... in the shops in time for Christmas.

 

This article is from the Tolkien Newsgroups FAQ, by Steuard Jensen with numerous contributions by others.

 

http://tolkien.slimy.com/faq/

 

 

46 Why didn't the Nazgul take the Ring at Weathertop? (Tolkien)

 

The Nazgul withdrew from Weathertop despite a five-against-one

fighting advantage and with the One Ring almost within their grasp.

Many share Aragorn's confusion about this: "I cannot think why they

have gone and do not attack again." There are many possible reasons,

and the true answer is likely to be a combination of them.

 

Most agree that Aragorn's analysis in "Flight to the Ford" is at

least in part accurate:

 

I don't think they expected to be resisted... They will come again

another night, if we cannot escape. They are only waiting, because

they think that their purpose is almost accomplished, and that the

Ring cannot fly much further.

 

Many see this explanation as inadequate: the Ring seems like too great

a prize for the Nazgul to take such foolish caution. Some quote Letter

#210 where Tolkien says that "They have no great physical power against

the fearless", arguing that Aragorn was able to drive the Nazgul away.

However, this quote does not preclude them from having "normal"

physical power, and the Witch King was willing to do battle with

skilled warriors at other times.

 

Some believe that Frodo's cry of "Elbereth" helped drive the Nazgul

away: after remarking that Frodo's sword had not harmed the Witch King,

Aragorn says, "More deadly to [the Witch King] was the name of

Elbereth." This idea is clearer in an early draft: in _The Return of

the Shadow_ ("At Rivendell"), a fragment includes Gandalf saying, "Not

to mention courage - and also swords and a strange and ancient name.

Later on I must be told about that curious sword of yours, and how you

knew the name of Elbereth." (Presumably Gandalf is discussing this

very question.) However, in the final text, it is Aragorn who comments

on the name, but he never used it himself. Because of this, some

interpret Aragorn's comment as nothing more than a statement of just

how ineffective Frodo's sword slash had been.

 

A final factor which some believe led the Nazgul to turn away was

Frodo's sword from the Barrow Downs. As discussed in question III.C.2,

many believe that the Nazgul were afraid of the barrow blades. The

description of the attack on Weathertop is at least consistent with

this theory: after Frodo put on the Ring, three of the wraiths rushed towards him. Desperate, he drew his own sword, and it seemed

to him that it flickered red, as if it was a firebrand. Two of the

figures halted. The third... sprang forward and bore down on Frodo.

 

All of the wraiths seem to have left immediately after the Witch King

stabbed Frodo. As Frodo was seeing into the "wraith world" with the

Ring on, some read the description of his sword flickering red as an

indication that it had some overt magical power there.

 

On the other hand, the red flicker could have been just reflected

firelight, which often remained bright even to one wearing the Ring. In

fact, there is no clear evidence that the attack did not go just as the

Nazgul planned. Some also object that the Nazgul would not have feared

Frodo's sword because the Witch King was able to break it from a

distance in "Flight to the Ford". Others counter that such a spell may

have taken some time to prepare, and that Tolkien seems not to have

considered this a problem in the first draft of the text (when the

Nazgul's fear of the swords was explicit).

 

 

 

[comix4fun]

How come villains capture the hero(s) and plans to kill Her/him/them later in the movie so she/he/them can get saved?

 

Why not just kill them when they get them. A lot of movies would not only have an ending where the villain wins, lots of movies would be shorter too (and that would be a good thing on a lot of junk coming out).

 

And we would get rid of one major plot hole in many movies.

 

 

[Mister_Comics]

This is how to solve any zombie invasion in any zombie movie.

 

Dig or find a deep pit. Make it a fire pit and hang a live cow or goat over the pit. Sit back and watch the zombies fall into the pit as they try to get the cow.

 

End of zombie movie.

[comix4fun]

This is how to solve any zombie invasion in any zombie movie.

 

Dig or find a deep pit. Make it a fire pit and hang a live cow or goat over the pit. Sit back and watch the zombies fall into the pit as they try to get the cow.

 

End of zombie movie.

 

 

Except for the original Romero zombie flicks and the Dawn of the Dead remake. They don't eat animals, only other humans.

[gaz973]

This is how to solve any zombie invasion in any zombie movie.

 

Dig or find a deep pit. Make it a fire pit and hang a live cow or goat over the pit. Sit back and watch the zombies fall into the pit as they try to get the cow.

 

End of zombie movie.

 

 

Except for the original Romero zombie flicks and the Dawn of the Dead remake. They don't eat animals, only other humans.

 

So hang a live human over it.

[inconceivable]

This is how to solve any zombie invasion in any zombie movie.

 

Dig or find a deep pit. Make it a fire pit and hang a live cow or goat over the pit. Sit back and watch the zombies fall into the pit as they try to get the cow.

 

End of zombie movie.

 

 

Except for the original Romero zombie flicks and the Dawn of the Dead remake. They don't eat animals, only other humans.

 

So hang a live human over it.

 

Any volunteers?

 

Dan

[gaz973]

This is how to solve any zombie invasion in any zombie movie.

 

Dig or find a deep pit. Make it a fire pit and hang a live cow or goat over the pit. Sit back and watch the zombies fall into the pit as they try to get the cow.

 

End of zombie movie.

 

 

Except for the original Romero zombie flicks and the Dawn of the Dead remake. They don't eat animals, only other humans.

 

So hang a live human over it.

 

Any volunteers?

 

Dan

Probably best to use the smelliest person so that the zombies catch the scent.

[comix4fun]

This is how to solve any zombie invasion in any zombie movie.

 

Dig or find a deep pit. Make it a fire pit and hang a live cow or goat over the pit. Sit back and watch the zombies fall into the pit as they try to get the cow.

 

End of zombie movie.

 

 

Except for the original Romero zombie flicks and the Dawn of the Dead remake. They don't eat animals, only other humans.

 

So hang a live human over it.

 

Any volunteers?

 

Dan

Probably best to use the smelliest person so that the zombies catch the scent.

 

 

Or the loudest....

[gaz973]

This is how to solve any zombie invasion in any zombie movie.

 

Dig or find a deep pit. Make it a fire pit and hang a live cow or goat over the pit. Sit back and watch the zombies fall into the pit as they try to get the cow.

 

End of zombie movie.

 

 

Except for the original Romero zombie flicks and the Dawn of the Dead remake. They don't eat animals, only other humans.

 

So hang a live human over it.

 

Any volunteers?

 

Dan

Probably best to use the smelliest person so that the zombies catch the scent.

 

 

Or the loudest....

 

OK, we're looking for a smelly loudmouth, better check out the nearest comic con.

[NewEnglandGothic]

In Spider-Man 3, it was bad enough the Sandman was on the run and conveniently took time to stop at a nuclear testing facility to become his "titular" self. But, the alien symbiote crash landing near Peter & MJ's date and tagging along after.