ChrisInBaltimore Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Any issue of WD can also serve as a jumping in point for that reason. Neither EoW nor Saga have that easy relatability or lend themselves to simple explanations. If I tried to explain either to my non comic reading friends, or gave them random non #1 issues to read, they'd likely be like "WTF is this?" To me that is the biggest difference between just about any book and WD in terms of investing and potential for more than a quick flip. That is a good point as well. I'd also add, East of West and Saga could NOT be turned in to a cost effective show. That also makes for less popularity. Heck, I don't think either could be turned in to a feature length movie either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysterio Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Any issue of WD can also serve as a jumping in point for that reason. Neither EoW nor Saga have that easy relatability or lend themselves to simple explanations. If I tried to explain either to my non comic reading friends, or gave them random non #1 issues to read, they'd likely be like "WTF is this?" To me that is the biggest difference between just about any book and WD in terms of investing and potential for more than a quick flip. That is a good point as well. I'd also add, East of West and Saga could NOT be turned in to a cost effective show. That also makes for less popularity. Heck, I don't think either could be turned in to a feature length movie either. I completely agree. You need to know the story and background to care about those books, and that doesn't translate into mainstream success. Good comics, sure, but not blockbuster long term investments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike's Rack Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Personally, I can't judge a book until the first arc is finished. I look for great storytelling. Each story has. Beginning a middle and an end. The end is the most difficult and the most telling of a writer's storytelling ability. If the beginning and middle are great but the end flops, the story will flop. Manhattan Projects is an excellent story, each arc has a satisfying end that lead into the next. Walking dead is excellent too, however it seem to be written with the long view in mind and some later arcs are not as satisfying, however as an established book they have more leeway to set up the larger story. With East of West, I am reading and enjoying, but I won't render a verdict until the first arc is completed. I know Hickman can tell a story and the sales of EOW so far will allow him some freedom to take his time and set things up. World building is essential and the master storyteller will get you hooked and lure you along with great story arcs while he/she builds the world and set up the greater story. I'm excited to see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThoseBackPages Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 if the number really is 300 on the RRP then the blue 9.8 is the way to go. lots of damaged copies as well as Yellowed ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mschmidt Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 if the number really is 300 on the RRP then the blue 9.8 is the way to go. lots of damaged copies as well as Yellowed ones No. As usual, the SS copies are going to sell for more than the blue label copies. Weren't you making the same statement about the Saga #1 RRP after NYCC last year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThoseBackPages Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 sure, but that was only last year. in time, there will be more yellows in existence then blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mschmidt Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Even if that does happen - and it hasn't happened yet - it won't change a thing; the SS copies will still sell for a premium compared to their blue label counterparts *. You may personally not like SS books - that's your prerogative - but the market as a whole loves them, particularly for hot modern books. * Yes, I'm ignoring a hypothetical situation where 299 copies of the 300 print run are SS'ed and there's only 1 blue label copy remaining - where the laws of supply & demand will ensure that the blue label copy is the most desirable one. But it's never going to happen, so it would be a ridiculous argument to bring forth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsJustRyan Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicsnyc22 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Are some of us prejudice against blues? Would you ever let your daughter buy a blue? BTW, I'm not a book-ist-- I own a ton of blue's. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MutantKeys Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 :popcorn: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
500Club Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 See how I look at it: Both WD and Saga have done something different than mainstream comics. WD has done an outstanding job selling the black and white comic. It looks different then mainstream books, but the story is also of a high quality. Saga has also done something different with the artwork. The way the captions are added to the art is way different then anything on the market right now. And again it has a solid story to go along with the art. Both books are also in a very unique genre. WD is the pinnacle of the horror genre while Saga is a solid science fiction read. Also, in both books you fall in love with the characters. They are more character pieces than comics. Now what has East of West done differently? The artwork is solid, but it doesn't look different then anything else on the market. I think indie books do well when the art is unique. The story is good right now, but I don't feel invested in a character. Death is probably the stand out character, but I don't like him (I don't think we are supposed too). I agree with you. So far, East of West is looking like a good book, and not a standout. To be fair, though, it's going to take a full arc to get a better idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebtorres Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 I got my RRP yesterday; the back cover is pretty clean and it looks like an easy 9.6 - 9.8!! :banana: Should I slab it blue or get it SS, hopefully at NYCC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mg1902 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Blue label RRP just went for $430 on eBay. Anyone here pick it up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsJustRyan Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Not me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicartfan Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 I got my RRP yesterday; the back cover is pretty clean and it looks like an easy 9.6 - 9.8!! :banana: Should I slab it blue or get it SS, hopefully at NYCC? Keep it blue....you can get any book SS at pretty much anytime. "Once yellow, always yellow...Blue can always become yellow" - ThoseBackPages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThoseBackPages Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 NICE Michael! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebtorres Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 I got my RRP yesterday; the back cover is pretty clean and it looks like an easy 9.6 - 9.8!! :banana: Should I slab it blue or get it SS, hopefully at NYCC? Keep it blue....you can get any book SS at pretty much anytime. "Once yellow, always yellow...Blue can always become yellow" - ThoseBackPages Your wise words have not fallen on deaf ears sifu... Blue it is! (thumbs u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-DONIS Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 Got my rrp signed yesterday. Easy 9.6 Also three of my Forbidden Planet variants which I hope one or all hit 9.9 they're that solid folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katchoo Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 Finally got a copy of #3 without that crease defect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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