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Guys, look at this, Ebay #281065699273, Revival 9.9 shill bidding ..?

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Shill bidding does happen on ebay but oftentimes, what you may think is shill bidding is actually someone trying to outbid the high bidder's maximum bid. This is called nibble bidding. Instead of bidding the most they are willing to pay, they keep bidding only one increment above the current high bid but keep getting the outbid notice because they haven't outbid the hidden/proxy bid.

 

If a bidder has a lot of retractions or cancellations then it could be shill bidding. Shill bidders usually do not try to win although they do sometimes to inflate feedback or because they didn't retract/cancel in time.

 

If a bidder retracts their bid and then rebids less than the previous underbidder's bid, then it is most likely shill bidding.

 

Having zero feedback is no sign of shill bidding as everyone starts off with zero.

 

"Sometimes you'll be outbid as soon as you enter your bid, even though the bid you entered was higher than the current bid shown on the item listing. When this happens, you'll usually be notified immediately and given a chance to make another bid.

 

This happens because another buyer had a higher maximum bid than yours. Your bid prompted our automatic bidding system to raise the other buyer's bid above yours. The other bidder may have placed their bid hours or days before. If you and another bidder had the same maximum bid, the earlier bid would win."

 

http://pages.ebay.com/help/buy/outbid.html

 

http://pages.ebay.com/help/buy/automatic-bidding.html

 

 

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One of the kings of shill bidding is 267philly67 and his shill william.h1981.

 

At first the seller would cancel almost every single bid from the shill using bogus reasons for cancelling like stop bidding, I blocked you but how did you get through? and many other.

 

After I reported them, the seller cancels their bids a lot less but now they retract their bids and rebid less than the high bidder and the shill wins a lot more but most of the items are almost immediately relisted.

 

Seller has left feedback saying "stop bidding" yet shill has won almost 100 items in the past 30 days. There is such as thing as a blocked bidders list on ebay and there is also a malicious and unwelcome bidder report a seller could file. It's obvious the seller has not placed this supposed unwanted bidder on their block list.

 

The feedback between the two doesn't look kosher.

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Shill bidding does happen on ebay but oftentimes, what you may think is shill bidding is actually someone trying to outbid the high bidder's maximum bid. This is called nibble bidding. Instead of bidding the most they are willing to pay, they keep bidding only one increment above the current high bid but keep getting the outbid notice because they haven't outbid the hidden/proxy bid.

 

If a bidder has a lot of retractions or cancellations then it could be shill bidding. Shill bidders usually do not try to win although they do sometimes to inflate feedback or because they didn't retract/cancel in time.

 

If a bidder retracts their bid and then rebids less than the previous underbidder's bid, then it is most likely shill bidding.

 

Having zero feedback is no sign of shill bidding as everyone starts off with zero.

 

"Sometimes you'll be outbid as soon as you enter your bid, even though the bid you entered was higher than the current bid shown on the item listing. When this happens, you'll usually be notified immediately and given a chance to make another bid.

 

This happens because another buyer had a higher maximum bid than yours. Your bid prompted our automatic bidding system to raise the other buyer's bid above yours. The other bidder may have placed their bid hours or days before. If you and another bidder had the same maximum bid, the earlier bid would win."

 

http://pages.ebay.com/help/buy/outbid.html

 

http://pages.ebay.com/help/buy/automatic-bidding.html

 

 

doh!:facepalm:

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