Jayman Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 And very nice research at that. You never cease to amaze me with the knowledge that you possess about this genre of collecting. I am a mere babe in the woods. I also wanted to thank you for the info you gave to Jay about the "neon" inks that Fawcett was using on some of their later PC books. Jay and I had been discussing that very topic not a week before. Scott Always happy to share info with fellow geeks! Appreciate the answers Mr.Strange! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWatcher Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 So definitly not Grandenetti? I should have explained myself better. I wouldn't rule out another hand like Grandenetti. The Spirit's face doesn't look like "true" Eisner and, like I said, the skeleton doesn't look to be by him either. But I'd say that the scientist and woman look like Eisner with another hand inking his pencils, possibly Grandenetti. Angelo After looking at the book tonight I do have to say I agree that (at least) the scientist's face looks very much like Eisner. But as adamstrange stated, other artists could have been mimicing his style. Absolutely. That's why I look for certain details in the art. Eisner used shadows to give depth to objects, like on the buttons on the scientist's lab coat. He also used a feathering/cross hatching technique to indicate folds or wrinkles. If you look to the right of the beeker, you'll see a perfect example of this. I haven't seen an Eisner ghost artist that uses either one or both of these techiniques. A great example of this is the cover I posted to #1. The artist there blacked in the folds and wrinkles. Plus the way Eisner drew hands was pretty destinctive, too. Angelo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayman Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 So definitly not Grandenetti? I should have explained myself better. I wouldn't rule out another hand like Grandenetti. The Spirit's face doesn't look like "true" Eisner and, like I said, the skeleton doesn't look to be by him either. But I'd say that the scientist and woman look like Eisner with another hand inking his pencils, possibly Grandenetti. Angelo After looking at the book tonight I do have to say I agree that (at least) the scientist's face looks very much like Eisner. But as adamstrange stated, other artists could have been mimicing his style. Absolutely. That's why I look for certain details in the art. Eisner used shadows to give depth to objects, like on the buttons on the scientist's lab coat. He also used a feathering/cross hatching technique to indicate folds or wrinkles. If you look to the right of the beeker, you'll see a perfect example of this. I haven't seen an Eisner ghost artist that uses either one or both of these techiniques. A great example of this is the cover I posted to #1. The artist there blacked in the folds and wrinkles. Plus the way Eisner drew hands was pretty destinctive, too. Angelo Funny you mention the hands as I was focusing on the hand that holds the beeker. Note how the ring finger is further in than the rest, conforming to the shape of the beeker. That seems a very Eisnerish detail to me. Man that is a nice cover! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWatcher Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 So definitly not Grandenetti? I should have explained myself better. I wouldn't rule out another hand like Grandenetti. The Spirit's face doesn't look like "true" Eisner and, like I said, the skeleton doesn't look to be by him either. But I'd say that the scientist and woman look like Eisner with another hand inking his pencils, possibly Grandenetti. Angelo After looking at the book tonight I do have to say I agree that (at least) the scientist's face looks very much like Eisner. But as adamstrange stated, other artists could have been mimicing his style. Absolutely. That's why I look for certain details in the art. Eisner used shadows to give depth to objects, like on the buttons on the scientist's lab coat. He also used a feathering/cross hatching technique to indicate folds or wrinkles. If you look to the right of the beeker, you'll see a perfect example of this. I haven't seen an Eisner ghost artist that uses either one or both of these techiniques. A great example of this is the cover I posted to #1. The artist there blacked in the folds and wrinkles. Plus the way Eisner drew hands was pretty destinctive, too. Angelo Funny you mention the hands as I was focusing on the hand that holds the beeker. Note how the ring finger is further in than the rest, conforming to the shape of the beeker. That seems a very Eisnerish detail to me. Man that is a nice cover! You got that right! Angelo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamstrange Posted June 26, 2007 Share Posted June 26, 2007 So definitly not Grandenetti? I should have explained myself better. I wouldn't rule out another hand like Grandenetti. The Spirit's face doesn't look like "true" Eisner and, like I said, the skeleton doesn't look to be by him either. But I'd say that the scientist and woman look like Eisner with another hand inking his pencils, possibly Grandenetti. Angelo After looking at the book tonight I do have to say I agree that (at least) the scientist's face looks very much like Eisner. But as adamstrange stated, other artists could have been mimicing his style. Absolutely. That's why I look for certain details in the art. Eisner used shadows to give depth to objects, like on the buttons on the scientist's lab coat. He also used a feathering/cross hatching technique to indicate folds or wrinkles. If you look to the right of the beeker, you'll see a perfect example of this. I haven't seen an Eisner ghost artist that uses either one or both of these techiniques. A great example of this is the cover I posted to #1. The artist there blacked in the folds and wrinkles. Plus the way Eisner drew hands was pretty destinctive, too. Angelo Funny you mention the hands as I was focusing on the hand that holds the beeker. Note how the ring finger is further in than the rest, conforming to the shape of the beeker. That seems a very Eisnerish detail to me. Man that is a nice cover! You got that right! Angelo Eisner used hands very expressively in helping to tell a story. When I was looking at a smaller image of the cover the coloring obscured the inking but in the larger scan they sure looked like Eisner hands. Also, very few folks would draw the long-haired goateed scientist -- reminded me of the decripitude of Life Below. Oh, and the use of droplets of water off of the beaker is a nice Eisner-like touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
october Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 Oh yeah, and Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWatcher Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 Oh yeah, and Dam, Andy, that's an incredible buy! Those copies look amazing Angelo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamstrange Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 Oh yeah, and Oh yeah, and Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
october Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 Dam, Andy, that's an incredible buy! Those copies look amazing Angelo Thanks, they are really nice in-hand. I just read the HoF 17. I'd almost forgotten how insanely violent and warped these comics are. People think hip hop and video games glorify violence today? Check these out. In the first story a guy lures travellers to his house so his psycho brother can murder them, cut them up, and dump them in the swamp. He kills a salesman, a random woman, and a guy who got lost on the wrong road. The three are killed and cut up and the bodies reform in the swamp....but with the wrong parts on each person! They take their revenge by dismembering the man and putting his parts back together incorrectly. Insane stuff. These stories would give a 10 year old nightmares for weeks. The second and third stories are just as bad, with a panel showing a woman's head sewn to a pictureframe and a wife grilling her husbands leg....which she naturally cut off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrooge Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 Super buys for sure! I like the Craig cover better than Ingels. Am I the only one? Let's declare this Pre-Code Saturday. These were in my mailbox. Black Magic - March 1952 Marvel Tales 108 - Rolled the dice on eBay. Listed without a scan or a picture as a VG by a non-comic seller. I was the only bidder. I think I did good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamstrange Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 You can purchase the cover art to go with the comic over at Archangels! Only $35,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayman Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 Dam, Andy, that's an incredible buy! Those copies look amazing Angelo Thanks, they are really nice in-hand. I just read the HoF 17. I'd almost forgotten how insanely violent and warped these comics are. People think hip hop and video games glorify violence today? Check these out. In the first story a guy lures travellers to his house so his psycho brother can murder them, cut them up, and dump them in the swamp. He kills a salesman, a random woman, and a guy who got lost on the wrong road. The three are killed and cut up and the bodies reform in the swamp....but with the wrong parts on each person! They take their revenge by dismembering the man and putting his parts back together incorrectly. Insane stuff. These stories would give a 10 year old nightmares for weeks. The second and third stories are just as bad, with a panel showing a woman's head sewn to a pictureframe and a wife grilling her husbands leg....which she naturally cut off. Well it is summer time! Sweet books all (would have swiped those first two if I'd been watching) Yeah, give me the Craig VoH #30 over the HoF #17 anyday too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
october Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 Super buys for sure! I like the Craig cover better than Ingels. Am I the only one? Nope. I think CSS 22 is the best EC cover out there, and VoH 30 and 35 aren't far behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamstrange Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 Super buys for sure! I like the Craig cover better than Ingels. Am I the only one? Nope. I think CSS 22 is the best EC cover out there, and VoH 30 and 35 aren't far behind. It's not like Frazetta did any classic covers for EC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrooge Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 Super buys for sure! I like the Craig cover better than Ingels. Am I the only one? Nope. I think CSS 22 is the best EC cover out there, and VoH 30 and 35 aren't far behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
october Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 Super buys for sure! I like the Craig cover better than Ingels. Am I the only one? Nope. I think CSS 22 is the best EC cover out there, and VoH 30 and 35 aren't far behind. It's not like Frazetta did any classic covers for EC. He did, but I still put CSS 22 in first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrooge Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 This book contains a story without much a story to it but I still like it be it for the second page or the third page. It's amazing how much was made with so little in this case - I hope you enjoy this as much as I did - P.S.: Notice the LEE name on the tombstone in the panel before last Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamstrange Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 Billy Everett Thanks for posting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayman Posted July 8, 2007 Share Posted July 8, 2007 Scrooge, wonderful story thanks for posting! One thing that struck me on the first page is that you have a horror story with a vampire and a werewolf (?) but husband and wife still can't sleep in the same bed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kramerica Posted July 8, 2007 Share Posted July 8, 2007 A new addition to the Kramerica Family: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
