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A losing flip!

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As much as I love the Capitalist system, I cannot believe this price. Along with the outrageous prices being asked for some uber high grade Hulk 181's this is one of the most overpriced books I have seen in a long time. Geez there are 7 copies in 9.8! Whats next $50,000 for a 9.9!

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IS THIS the one that sold on Ideal?
Nope...this one was graded onsite in Chicago on July 20, 2004. There was a forum member who mentioned this book in his Chicago report that his friend had this graded. The GS X-men 1 CGC 9.6 is from the same submission.
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And is that a ding in the upper left-hand corner of this "practically perfect" book? Buy the label suckas!

 

Good lord, I can't believe you pointed that out. It's only around 1/64", which is just tiny and acceptable below the 9.9 level.

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IS THIS the one that sold on Ideal?
Nope...this one was graded onsite in Chicago on July 20, 2004. There was a forum member who mentioned this book in his Chicago report that his friend had this graded. The GS X-men 1 CGC 9.6 is from the same submission.

 

Rhino_Comics.

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And is that a ding in the upper left-hand corner of this "practically perfect" book? Buy the label suckas!

 

Good lord, I can't believe you pointed that out. It's only around 1/64", which is just tiny and acceptable below the 9.9 level.

 

BURN IT.

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Well, this is strictly a personal pet peeve, but I'm kinda against buying pre-bronze age books slabbed at 9.8, as I feel that they're usually not worth the multiples that the market is currently asking (with the very notable exception of Mile High books slabbed at 9.8...those are beauties!...not that I own any!)

 

As many others have stated, there seems to be a "grading curve" for older books, and I've got mixed emotions about that. Good for sellers, bad for buyers. At any rate, pre-1970 9.8''s take too much whallop out of my puny human pocketbook. I've bought a few GA books in the past that were slabbed at very high levels, and the few (albeit very few) defects just irk me all that much more when I think of the multiples that I needed to shell out. So, I've since set my sights on lower-graded books, but still highgrade. That way I can still feel like I'm getting a "deal." Now I haven't totally sworn off older books in 9.6..... grin.gif

 

I meant my comment about "buying the label sucka" to be somewhat facetious and jokey, sorry if it came accross like I was totally serious. I still think 15k for the book in question is a crazy price, though. And if I paid 15k for that book, the little tear would bug me , properly graded or not.

Could I perhaps be an anal freak? 893scratchchin-thumb.gifacclaim.gif

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Well, this is strictly a personal pet peeve, but I'm kinda against buying pre-bronze age books slabbed at 9.8, as I feel that they're usually not worth the multiples that the market is currently asking (with the very notable exception of Mile High books slabbed at 9.8...those are beauties!...not that I own any!)

 

I've never heard of these "Mile High" books. Could you possibly be referring to Edgar Church's comics? poke2.gif

 

As many others have stated, there seems to be a "grading curve" for older books, and I've got mixed emotions about that. Good for sellers, bad for buyers.

 

But, once you realize it's in play sellers no longer have an advantage. If, after looking at a hundred CGC grade books and you expect a Golden Age 9.8 to look like a Modern one, there's only one person to blame and it's not the seller. confused-smiley-013.gif

 

I don't agree that there should be a grading curve, by the way. The thing is, it's there and I've accepted it as part of the "rules of the game."

 

At any rate, pre-1970 9.8''s take too much whallop out of my puny human pocketbook. I've bought a few GA books in the past that were slabbed at very high levels, and the few (albeit very few) defects just irk me all that much more when I think of the multiples that I needed to shell out. So, I've since set my sights on lower-graded books, but still highgrade. That way I can still feel like I'm getting a "deal." Now I haven't totally sworn off older books in 9.6..... grin.gif

 

I meant my comment about "buying the label sucka" to be somewhat facetious and jokey, sorry if it came accross like I was totally serious. I still think 15k for the book in question is a crazy price, though. And if I paid 15k for that book, the little tear would bug me , properly graded or not.

Could I perhaps be an anal freak? 893scratchchin-thumb.gifacclaim.gif

 

"Buying the label sucka" to me, meant that you felt the book was overgraded. So I guess I took it to be totally serious. There have been hundreds of similar "buy the book not the label" comments on these boards, your joke fell right in line with those.

 

I'm with you on the price, by the way. Way too expensive for a book as common as FF #48. That's coming from someone who counts it among his three favorite Silver Age Books

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Oy, oops, ok Church copy, not Mile High. Ya got me. Tomato, tamato, let's call the whole thing off.

 

I understand that the curve is part of the rules of the game, as you say, but it's a rule I'm not overly excited about. If I have a book in my possession that is the best existing copy, and it reads 8.5 on the label, I'm not one to complain. It's the best. Isn't the best good enough? It's kind of this weird human need that we still need the label read "9.8" or "9.6", doncha think? Why overly inflate what is already the best?

 

This seems to be something that other hobbies understand better than we comicbuffs. Collectors of rare coins, stamps, etc., tend to recognize that the "best" of a rare piece is not going to be nm/mt condition. That's ok. It's still the best. While I openly admit that I don't know as much about those hobbies as I do about comics, it seems to me that they're generally less dependent on the label and more focused on the piece itself. Comics may swing that direction in time..after all CGC is a pretty new baby, comparatively speaking.

 

But I'm rambling 893blahblah.gif...anyhow, 15k is too much, glad we all agree! laugh.gif

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