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Pence Variants

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gaz973

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There is no doubt that the Market for pence copies is a lot more limited than for cents copies. As someone who sells them regularly, I price them at 2/3 of cents copies value and they sell just fine at that.

 

It must be early in the morning as Vaillant hasn't yet posted all about why he doesn't collect them.

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Ken Aldred

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From what I've read they were printed at the same time as the U.S. copies on the same presses. Just one of the plates was changed to accommodate the UK price. Bronze Marvels say. "Marvel All Colour Comics" instead of "Marvel Comics Group" at the top, so two plates had to be changed for those. Estimates are that 10% of the print run went for UK editions. So actually they are rarer. Basically a 1 in 10 variant, but that fact is not usually reflected in collector's minds. I like 'em though. Especially if you can find minty copies.

 

Pence copies are part of the first print run but I tend not to collect them, even though they were the distributed, newsstand comics which were available to me as a kid.

 

I'm primarily a BA specialist and simply prefer the look of the 'Marvel Comics Group' banner a lot more than 'Marvel All-Colour Comics' - that's all. :)

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There is definitely more of an appetite for them in the UK and I personally love them.

 

I've got quite a few pence copies but like Kev and other stated earlier, high grade is hard to find. The X-Men 101 9.0 in my sig line was the highest graded copy for a good few years and has only recently be beaten by a 9.2.

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solarcadet

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has anyone seen for sale a pence copy of Worlds Finest #71? It went for 6D or 8D

 

Been looking and am willing to pay way above market value as they are extremely scarce. Hoping someone in the forum might even have a copy to show....

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Comicopolis

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For some reason, they are definitely less attractive financially, but as you got the grade you want, I'm really not sure what to tell you.

A 7.0 Brit copy in a mylar will look just as nice as a 7.0 Merican copy.

 

Comparison fail.

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Comicopolis

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has anyone seen for sale a pence copy of Worlds Finest #71? It went for 6D or 8D

 

Been looking and am willing to pay way above market value as they are extremely scarce. Hoping someone in the forum might even have a copy to show....

 

I'm not sure if DC printed, like Marvel did, pence copies/variants in the 60's and 70's so the WF book may be an actual reprint.

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solarcadet

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has anyone seen for sale a pence copy of Worlds Finest #71? It went for 6D or 8D

 

Been looking and am willing to pay way above market value as they are extremely scarce. Hoping someone in the forum might even have a copy to show....

 

I'm not sure if DC printed, like Marvel did, pence copies/variants in the 60's and 70's so the WF book may be an actual reprint.

 

Worlds Finest 71 was July 1954. The pence version/variant was December 1954 of Super Adventure Comics #55

 

Worlds Finest 71 CGC 7.5 Sold For $2,610

http://www.comicconnect.com/bookDetail.php?id=462788

 

with the pence being zero in CGC Census and pretty hard to find I have been offering $1000+ with none to be found :(

 

 

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Kevin.J

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has anyone seen for sale a pence copy of Worlds Finest #71? It went for 6D or 8D

 

Been looking and am willing to pay way above market value as they are extremely scarce. Hoping someone in the forum might even have a copy to show....

 

I'm not sure if DC printed, like Marvel did, pence copies/variants in the 60's and 70's so the WF book may be an actual reprint.

 

Worlds Finest 71 was July 1954. The pence version/variant was December 1954 of Super Adventure Comics #55

 

Worlds Finest 71 CGC 7.5 Sold For $2,610

http://www.comicconnect.com/bookDetail.php?id=462788

 

with the pence being zero in CGC Census and pretty hard to find I have been offering $1000+ with none to be found :(

 

 

You are getting mixed up on what Pence variants are.

Pence Variants are exactly the same as their US counterparts apart from the price label, if a Worlds Finest 71 existed in the form we are talking ( it doesn't) it would be called Worlds Finest 71.

 

Super Adventure Comics are British comics, reprinting US titles, nothing even close

to the same thing

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solarcadet

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has anyone seen for sale a pence copy of Worlds Finest #71? It went for 6D or 8D

 

Been looking and am willing to pay way above market value as they are extremely scarce. Hoping someone in the forum might even have a copy to show....

 

I'm not sure if DC printed, like Marvel did, pence copies/variants in the 60's and 70's so the WF book may be an actual reprint.

 

Worlds Finest 71 was July 1954. The pence version/variant was December 1954 of Super Adventure Comics #55

 

Worlds Finest 71 CGC 7.5 Sold For $2,610

http://www.comicconnect.com/bookDetail.php?id=462788

 

with the pence being zero in CGC Census and pretty hard to find I have been offering $1000+ with none to be found :(

 

 

You are getting mixed up on what Pence variants are.

Pence Variants are exactly the same as their US counterparts apart from the price label, if a Worlds Finest 71 existed in the form we are talking ( it doesn't) it would be called Worlds Finest 71.

 

Super Adventure Comics are British comics, reprinting US titles, nothing even close

to the same thing

 

i know what you mean. (thumbs u i wasnt mixed up i know its different from title. the british WF71 is a SAC55 but nonetheless still referred to as the pence version.

 

you mean pence prices on the american titles... (thumbs u

 

would you might know of who might deal in pence copies/british reprinting of american titles? i think there is an AF15 pence copy on Ebay i saw it last week...

 

havent had much luck in finding UK Dealers (shrug)

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The silver age Marvel pence variants are completely identical to the US copies except for two or three small details: the price sign is different, and in the early Sixties the British versions had no date on the covers. On the inside cover the indicia might have an extra line saying they were distibuted in the UK by Thorpe & Porter Ltd. By about 1966 the two latter changes had been dropped, and literally the only difference was the pence pricing in the top left corner.

 

I've never seen an equivalent DC pence variant. Instead of doing a special print run they seem to have just sent books over and the distributor stamped a UK price on the cover, with the initials "T&P" - which was also commonly seen on Marvel books, Thorpe & Porter handling both.

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The Pence copies are absolutely identical, but as an italian collector I always prefer the Dollar ones, as I have already explained for me the Marvel books are a product of american culture, and so I prefer to have the americans, but there is really no difference.

 

For the same reason, I prefer to have the original Captain Britain magazines, which represent the original form in which those stories appeared, rather than american reprints like the X-Men archives or trade paperbacks. :)

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gaz973

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The Pence copies are absolutely identical, but as an italian collector I always prefer the Dollar ones, as I have already explained for me the Marvel books are a product of american culture, and so I prefer to have the americans, but there is really no difference.

 

For the same reason, I prefer to have the original Captain Britain magazines, which represent the original form in which those stories appeared, rather than american reprints like the X-Men archives or trade paperbacks. :)

I understand what you're saying but the comparison that you've used isn't valid.

 

You're comparing original cents copies versus original pence copies against original British comics versus trade paperbacks. There is no equivalent American (or other country) printing for those Captain Britain magazines.

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I said "trade paperbacks" simply because I think some of the Captain Britain stories are not published in the US outside of paperbacks.

 

The full Alan Davis run (the latter one) has been reprinted in the US in the X-Men archives, and I preferred to pick the original B&W magazines to have all the Moore/Davis and Davis run in the original form.

 

In this sense, the comparision holds, although for Captain Britain we do not have a simultaneous american edition. :)

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gaz973

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I merely meant that it wasn't a valid comparison as pence copies aren't reprints. As you said, there were no equivalent printings of the Captan Britain mags so any other version of them is a reprint. (thumbs u

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