Comics, Pulps, and Paperbacks: Why such a discrepancy in values? 25 25

[jimjum12]

On 6/16/2024 at 10:01 AM, johnenock said:

I am a big fan of Garter covers! Someone should bring that look back.

 

[Surfing Alien]

On 6/15/2024 at 3:09 PM, OtherEric said:

A few more in today, just a couple more to go for the set.  I already have the Avon version of "Daughter" but the Pyramid is pretty nice looking as well. I wonder why Avon only did the one odd book?

Love the covers on "Daughter" and "Mask" They're really tough in high grade too.

[Surfing Alien]

On 6/16/2024 at 1:28 AM, Darwination said:

The chick looks Dodd-esque to me but the dude not so much, but Howell does have a lot of Beacons in that period. Still, Upwall was working for Universal Publishing at the time as well.  Paperback Steve's ID.  He, too, has been wrong before

Steve is off on this one imho. Uppwall never painted a known cover in this style, RD is correct, he was much more detailed, while virtually every Dodd cover was in this style.

Edited June 17 by Surfing Alien

[Surfing Alien]

On 6/15/2024 at 1:24 PM, Darwination said:

I've been pretty amazed at how fiercely the lesbian books are collected.  Outside of PBOs by big authors and some other "key" sort of books, nothing else seems to command the prices that sleaze in its many flavors does.

Sleaze has had collectors come into the market lately and it seems to have unleashed a flood of high grade "rare" books into the market over the last couple of months, unlike anything I've ever seen. There seems to be a lot of old holders willing to let go of their books, including many letting multiple copies of books go. 

On the other hand, the supply of the traditional classic big keys in high grade has been almost nil over the past two or three years with almost no one seeming willing to let go of their nice big books. 

Just my anectodal observation 

[Surfing Alien]

On 6/16/2024 at 10:55 AM, jimjum12 said:

On 6/16/2024 at 10:01 AM, johnenock said:

I am a big fan of Garter covers! Someone should bring that look back.

 

 

 

[jimjum12]

On 6/16/2024 at 9:38 PM, Surfing Alien said:

Sleaze has had collectors come into the market lately and it seems to have unleashed a flood of high grade "rare" books into the market over the last couple of months, unlike anything I've ever seen. There seems to be a lot of old holders willing to let go of their books, including many letting multiple copies of books go. 

On the other hand, the supply of the traditional classic big keys in high grade has been almost nil over the past two or three years with almost no one seeming willing to let go of their nice big books. 

Just my anectodal observation 

I notice that some deals can be had at auction for good stuff, if one is patient. A recent Orgy Of The Dead hammered at $710, which was strong for a copy that only had two pics, both cropped to the edge of the book. It does seem that grade is making a big difference, as a very sharp Horizontal Secretary went for $380, while a solid but lightly used copy closed at $90. A nice Hungry Ones closed at a decent price compared to a recent $500 dollar sale. A nice copy of Reefer Girl hit $888 and a Sex Gang by Ellison flagged $290, which was actually a decent bargain. I see a LOT of cool stuff hammer between $40 and $90. It's a robust hobby, but it's not that kind of white hot market that comics were enjoying a few years ago, when a person with a decent eye could flip books for an immediate profit. To me, since I'm still trending more towards collecting, that is a good thing. Only problem is I want SO much. One thing to remember about markets, I remember when Chuck couldn't give away Mile Highs at $35 a piece, and as recently as the early 90's had a friend with a Fine plus Batman 1 that sat unsold @$ 11K for months. I've seen ACTION 1 fail to sell for $1800. That's just in my brief history. Slow and steady is what you want. To be honest, if I could sell every PB I own at a 100% mark up, there are MANY of them where I'd pass. They're just too cool for school, as they say. One thing I do notice, is that there were 300K views to this thread after a full decade. Now, 6months later, an additional 50K views have graced the thread. That's near a thousand views per page, which is strong for this site. GOD BLESS ...

-jimbo(a friend of jesus)

 

..as an example, why would I want to sell something like these for $90 bucks each? In a comparison to the early comics market. if one isn't overpaying a little, they're not adding a lot of substance. Do you ever hear Mitch complain about "overpaying" for his Action 1? ... How about Bob, groaning about the highway robbery of $5 each for Mile Highs at the first show they debuted at? When he could've gotten mid grade for 50 cents or a dollar? ...

 

Edited June 17 by jimjum12

[Darwination]

On 6/16/2024 at 8:27 PM, Surfing Alien said:

Steve is off on this one imho. Uppwall never painted a known cover in this style, RD is correct, he was much more detailed, while virtually every Dodd cover was in this style.

Dropped a note on Steve's Flickr, he's going by Holroyd and remains unconvinced.  I'm just gonna take any artist credit off my files on this one even if I lean towards Dodd.

I'm not very familiar with Upwall, but I do notice he likes to sign:

 

[Darwination]

On 6/17/2024 at 10:21 AM, jimjum12 said:

 

 

A whole cult of leering A**-men

I bought that one just this instant, great back cover, too. Pbs lead to impulse buying

Edited June 17 by Darwination

[jimjum12]

On 6/17/2024 at 2:24 PM, Darwination said:

A whole cut of leering -men

I bought that one just this instant, great back cover, too. Pbs lead to impulse buying

The type of glutarals that make a young man turn in early at night  GOD BLESS ...

-jimbo(a friend of jesus)

[jimjum12]

I didn;t want to post this until it was here ... A copy has been on my wantlist for a while, and the ask for pretty copies hovers around $ 350. It's bittersweet, as I had to jettison some of my good ones at cost, in order to swing this @ less than $200. I'm somewhat over the moon, as it's a sweet copy in addition to the sig. GOD BLESS ...

-jimbo(a friend of jesus)

Edited June 17 by jimjum12

[OtherEric]

On 6/17/2024 at 12:22 PM, jimjum12 said:

I didn;t want to post this until it was here ... A copy has been on my wantlist for a while, and ask for pretty copies hovers around $ 350. It's bittersweet, as I had to jettison some of my good ones at cost, in order to swing this @ less than $200. I'm somewhat over the moon, as it's a sweet copy in addition to the sig. GOD BLESS ...

-jimbo(a friend of jesus)

Very nice!  Ellison remains one of my favorite writers, and that's a gorgeous copy even before the signature.

[Darwination]

Nice get, Jimbo!  Glad to hear it's a nice copy.  I've been picking up books from that seller (down in the very shallow end of the pool), and it's been a little unpredictable even if a mostly excellent experience.

[jimjum12]

On 6/17/2024 at 3:49 PM, Darwination said:

Nice get, Jimbo!  Glad to hear it's a nice copy.  I've been picking up books from that seller (down in the very shallow end of the pool), and it's been a little unpredictable even if a mostly excellent experience.

I almost always have bids on something from him. He often turns up some unexpected highlights. GOD BLESS ...

-jimbo(a friend of jesus)

[OtherEric]

My Ellison D-series Aces:

 

[Darwination]

Is her shirt with all the dude's names on it a plot point?

[johnenock]

On 6/17/2024 at 12:24 PM, Darwination said:

A whole cut of leering A**-men

I bought that one just this instant, great back cover, too. Pbs lead to impulse buying

I have that on my list also.

[Surfing Alien]

On 6/17/2024 at 2:21 PM, Darwination said:

Dropped a note on Steve's Flickr, he's going by Holroyd and remains unconvinced.  I'm just gonna take any artist credit off my files on this one even if I lean towards Dodd.

I'm not very familiar with Upwall, but I do notice he likes to sign:

 

I love Steve and his efforts but he's a bit stiff about correcting things pointed out to him once he writes them down. It's a common trait that I have tried very hard to shed myself. The rigor of how Ruben and my pal Brian Emrich, who has the largest collection of vintage pb original art on the planet, look at crediting covers helped me a lot.

Holroyds credits are just recycled Warren credits, which, as Ruben jokes, was Lance, Gary and a few other guys pointing at unsigned covers back in the day and saying "hey, that looks like what's his face's art" with no academic rigor 

Edited June 17 by Surfing Alien

[johnenock]

Decent copy of this Prather:

 

[Pat Calhoun]

from Gold Medal to Bronze...

[Surfing Alien]

On 6/19/2024 at 10:12 PM, Pat Calhoun said:

from Gold Medal to Bronze...

Great idea Pat 🤘 We should do a "Connections" thread. It could be a hit 😙