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Answer from CGC.........

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FFB

FFB

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Heritage's search is really buggy. You should also check "Include Items Not Sold"

 

Anyway Sparkler 3 CGC 9.6

 

This is interesting book. Heavy crease pressed quite successfully. (Check back cover.)

 

Captain Midnight 41 - CGC 7.0

Captain Midnight 41 - CGC 9.2

 

You can totally still see the back cover crease. It has obviously been pressed out on the 9.2 copy. foreheadslap.gif

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Flaming_Telepath

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Some food for thought.

 

I know that Steve mentioned that the reason they chose Chris was because of the great work he's done. Now with the launching of CGC's pressing service they will have no problem referring books to his service based on the fact that he's one of the best in the business.

 

Well, let's see CGC started in 1999, Chris has been doing restoration CHECKS, NOT restoration WORK since 1999. Amazing that somebody can still be "great" after not doing restoration work for 5 years.

 

Secondly, people have stated what the impact of this will be from the dealers side. Census numbers are already screwed up on some books from the crack out, resubmit game. There are a number of keys such as FF #1 and #2 that are clearly not represented well in the census due to the number of times they were resubmitted. Now CGC will state that if EVERYBODY followed the rules and sent their label back in on the regrade (Yeah, fat chance), those census numbers would be more accurate.

 

CGC pressing books will give buyers the impression that EVERY book is pressed, it introduces doubt into the graded market. As a buyer you are forced to believe the dealer and you know what a STERLING REPUTATION OF HONESTY dealers have.

 

Lastly, not every book can be upgraded. In fact very few books can be upgraded based on the defects they exhibit. If a book has stress lines breaking color than your shot at getting that 9.0 to 9.6 upgrade are pretty minimal. However, as shown on a AF #15 it is possible to squash a 5.5 into a higher grade. So for all of you that are now going to be running around buying lower grades in the hope of using CGC's new service I suggest that you come by my office with your microscope or eye loop and start picking out those pressing candidates. Remember CGC doesn't care if you get the grade or not, it's how many times you submit the book that matters.

 

Bob, do you think Chris has been able to keep his hand in on the cleaning/pressing side these last five years? 893scratchchin-thumb.gif

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what if you only paid what others have paid for the same book, and , as a result of pressing, more copies in grade appear and your books are less valued?? Thats not overpaying but you still get the shaft.

 

What if you buy a top census copy and the next day, Chuck finds the Mile High 4 collection that has a box full of NM/MT copies of the issue you just bought? It's all a gamble. Anyone who guys a top census copy for an insane price takes the risk that this could happen.

 

Not that I like the fact that it could happen artificially, but I really don't think that there are too many books that can be pressed from a 9.6 to a 9.8, so it isn't the top of the census that will take the hit. I firmly believe that the books that will see the largest increases in population are those in the 5.0 to 9.0 category, which tend to have non-color-breaking defects that can be pressed out and upgraded. Most 9.4s, 9.6s, and 9.8s have the kind of wear that can't just be pressed out. I am talking slightly blunted corners, small bindery tears, and maybe a flaked spine stress. NDP doesn't fix any of this.

 

 

Oh this is to good to let go

Anyone who"guys"a top census copy for an insane price takes the risk that

 

this could happen

. Nice to see that you are just like the rest of us FFB you too make mistakes. 27_laughing.gif

 

I'm shocked that you knew the correct spelling! 893whatthe.gifhail.gif

 

You forget, I have the book that you told me to use, I see you now as my 'tutor/Mentor' sign-funnypost.gif

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what if you only paid what others have paid for the same book, and , as a result of pressing, more copies in grade appear and your books are less valued?? Thats not overpaying but you still get the shaft.

 

What if you buy a top census copy and the next day, Chuck finds the Mile High 4 collection that has a box full of NM/MT copies of the issue you just bought? It's all a gamble. Anyone who guys a top census copy for an insane price takes the risk that this could happen.

 

Not that I like the fact that it could happen artificially, but I really don't think that there are too many books that can be pressed from a 9.6 to a 9.8, so it isn't the top of the census that will take the hit. I firmly believe that the books that will see the largest increases in population are those in the 5.0 to 9.0 category, which tend to have non-color-breaking defects that can be pressed out and upgraded. Most 9.4s, 9.6s, and 9.8s have the kind of wear that can't just be pressed out. I am talking slightly blunted corners, small bindery tears, and maybe a flaked spine stress. NDP doesn't fix any of this.

 

 

Oh this is to good to let go

Anyone who"guys"a top census copy for an insane price takes the risk that

 

this could happen

. Nice to see that you are just like the rest of us FFB you too make mistakes. 27_laughing.gif

 

I'm shocked that you knew the correct spelling! 893whatthe.gifhail.gif

 

You forget, I have the book that told me to use, I see you now as my 'tutor/Mentor' sign-funnypost.gif

 

So it's his fault, eh?!?

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You forget, I have the book that told me to use, I see you now as my 'tutor/Mentor' sign-funnypost.gif

 

You're doomed. foreheadslap.gif

 

OH 893censored-thumb.gif THAT WAS TO HAVE READ TORMENTOR foreheadslap.gifpoke2.gif

 

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