Printers/Production Creases...what does CGC do?

[Chip Cataldo]

Do they count them as a defect, or not?

 

Thanks in advance for any info.

[Kevin76]

They might, I think they count the folder pin tears on the covers of ASM 361 as defects

[Zevgoli]

I have a Batman 251 that I bought CGC slabbed at 4.5. On the back cover was a two pronged printers crease that went from top to bottom. Luckily the crease happened after the cover was printed so there was no colour loss in the crease itself. I got it pressed and regraded and it came back a 6.0. You could still see the path of the crease but it was nicely minimized by the pressIng. I am sure the graders could tell it was pressed but they did not seem to penalize the crease remnants.

 

Just one arguement to get pressed before submitting.

 

Cheers, Howard

[joeypost]

Do they count them as a defect, or not?

 

Thanks in advance for any info.

 

Printers creases are not considered a defect...just a production issue. I have many 9.8 books with such creases.

[Trapezetony]

Sorry for being dim, but can someone describe the difference between this type of crease as opposed to those caused by over enthusiastic handling.

[joeypost]

Sorry for being dim, but can someone describe the difference between this type of crease as opposed to those caused by over enthusiastic handling.

 

They are folds and creases that existed in the paper before inks were applied. There are a few threads that post examples of printers creases already in existence on the boards.

[Trapezetony]

Thanks, Joey

[Chip Cataldo]

Do they count them as a defect, or not?

 

Thanks in advance for any info.

 

Printers creases are not considered a defect...just a production issue. I have many 9.8 books with such creases.

Thanks muchly for the input, everyone. Especially you, mister expert dude.

[Artboy99]

A common book that has the printer crease is Defenders #1.

It is in the top 1/3rd of the book on the right front cover.

 

It is my opinion that printer creases should be counted as a defect because it is possible to find a copy of the book that does not have the defect.

 

 

Here is a few samples:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Defenders-1-CGC-Grade-9-2-Marvel-Comic-Book-OW-White-Pages-1st-Necrodamus-/351340967742?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item51cd8db73e#ht_1805wt_1121

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Defenders-1-CGC-9-6-NM-1st-app-Necrodamus-Sub-Marine-Hulk-Doctor-Strange-begin-/291408510002?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43d94cfc32#ht_1463wt_1240

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DEFENDERS-1-CGC-9-6-Dr-Strange-Sub-Mariner-Hulk-Begin-White-Pages-/151602291139?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item234c3361c3#ht_449wt_923

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DEFENDERS-1-CGC-9-6-Dr-Strange-Sub-Mariner-Hulk-Begin-/161615734598?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item25a10c6746#ht_508wt_923

[joeypost]

Here is a good example of creases on a book with a dark cover.

 

 

[rjpb]

I would recommend getting any remotely valuable higher grade book slabbed for resale if it has printers creases. CGC seems to largely ignore them when grading, but if you sell them at the same grade raw, it looks like you are an overly generous grader.

[VintageComics]

Do they count them as a defect, or not?

 

Thanks in advance for any info.

 

Printers creases are not considered a defect...just a production issue. I have many 9.8 books with such creases.

 

Slight modification, I think 9.8 is the cut off for that defect but I think they can keep a book out of 9.8 grade if the wrinkles are actually spread out and show white paper (ie. no ink) as then they affect eye appeal to a greater degree than just being a wrinkle.

 

 

[joeypost]

Do they count them as a defect, or not?

 

Thanks in advance for any info.

 

Printers creases are not considered a defect...just a production issue. I have many 9.8 books with such creases.

 

Slight modification, I think 9.8 is the cut off for that defect but I think they can keep a book out of 9.8 grade if the wrinkles are actually spread out and show white paper (ie. no ink) as then they affect eye appeal to a greater degree than just being a wrinkle.

 

 

That would make sense.

[W16227]

I would recommend getting any remotely valuable higher grade book slabbed for resale if it has printers creases. CGC seems to largely ignore them when grading, but if you sell them at the same grade raw, it looks like you are an overly generous grader.

I would recommend getting any remotely valuable higher grade book slabbed for resale if it has printers creases. CGC seems to largely ignore them when grading, but if you sell them at the same grade raw, it looks like you are an overly generous grader.

 

+1 on this!!!!!!! - many here would understand this fact - but on the average the board here has a higher comic IQ than the norm