Did you know Simon and Kirby came up with the Vision in the Golden Age? 0

[kav]

[SquareChaos]

 

 

Yes, but it was from Stan's scripts.

[kav]

Crazy

and they used that pose in Avengers 57!

[rjpb]

Perhaps Stan had a vision after he smoked something.

[kav]

oh yeah

[Chadwick]

I have also discovered that smoke is the gateway to the supernatural

[Mark 1]

So which issue is really his first appearance?

[Chadwick]

marvel mystery comics 13

[Mark 1]

Very interesting how Avengers 57 is listed as his first appearance. Should be first SA appearance and the value should plummet.

 

 

[Dick Pontoon]

 

 

Yes, but it was from Stan's scripts.

 

Stan had nothing to do with the Vision, a character created and written by Joe Simon and Jack Kirby. Stan was still a teenage office assistant when the Vision was introduced, and did not work on any comic writing or characters until months later, and was not working with Jack at that point in his career.

[Unca Ben]

Very interesting how Avengers 57 is listed as his first appearance. Should be first SA appearance and the value should plummet.

 

 

Different Character.

Like Captain Marvel and Captain Mar-Vell and Captain Marvel

 

edit: just thought of this - interestingly enough, a golden age Vision story was reprinted in Marvel Super-Heroes #13 which featured the second appearance of Marvel's Captain Marvel (Mar-Vell).

Edited March 20, 2015 by Unca Ben

[ComicConnoisseur]

Very interesting how Avengers 57 is listed as his first appearance. Should be first SA appearance and the value should plummet.

 

The Silver Age fandom has been calling the shots for years.

My father whose is in his 70s says this is Flash

but once the generation of the Silver Age took over he was pushed aside for

 

His point was the younger Silver Age fans were more demanding than him and his Golden Age buddies.

 

[Jeffro.]

 

Don't know if you've heard but the Titanic sank.

[djpinkpanther67]

 

Don't know if you've heard but the Titanic sank.

[Prince Namor]

 

 

Yes, but it was from Stan's scripts.

 

Stan had nothing to do with the Vision, a character created and written by Joe Simon and Jack Kirby. Stan was still a teenage office assistant when the Vision was introduced, and did not work on any comic writing or characters until months later, and was not working with Jack at that point in his career.

 

Correct.

 

Marvel Mystery Comics was released in November of 1940 and Stan wouldn't even have his first printed story (a text piece) until May of the following year. All of the great Timely Golden Age characters were created before he even stepped foot in the door.

 

He only worked there for a year in a half before being sent off to war. By the time he got back in the Fall of 1946, the Superhero craze had died down. His contribution to the Golden Age is pretty minimal.

 

By the way, in that same issue of MMC13 we also have, besides the Human Torch, Sub-Mariner, Dorma, and Toro.... and also not written by Stan Lee...

Electro (the Marvel of the Age)

The Angel

and the Adventures of Ka-zar the Great

[Chillax23]

Avengers 57 does say "1st Appearance of the Silver Age Vision"

 

But yes, everyone push this as the real first Vision so AV57 can drop in value and I can get a sweet copy

[vaillant]

We can safely say that a good number of Golden age most suggestive ideas were influence on what Stan, Jack and the other writer/artists did in the most seminal period of the Silver Age.

 

Some characters, like the Destroyer, were directly reintroduced when Thomas had that great idea that is the Invaders – or as he did when he wrote the Crusader / Marvel Boy story in the Fantastic Four.

Some others, like the Golden age Vision show a lineage, which as Kav pointed out is noticeable also in the setup of the scene (I don’t know the original Golden age Vision powers).

[porcupine48]

 

 

Yes, but it was from Stan's scripts.

 

Stan had nothing to do with the Vision, a character created and written by Joe Simon and Jack Kirby. Stan was still a teenage office assistant when the Vision was introduced, and did not work on any comic writing or characters until months later, and was not working with Jack at that point in his career.

Yep.The Man gleaned all sorts of characters from the GA he never invented for the SA.

[jools&jim]

 

Yes, but it was from Stan's scripts.

Stan had nothing to do with the Vision...

... I took the "Stan's scipts" post above as being a tongue-in-cheek, prodding reference to the ol' "Stan did Everyhing" / "Jack did Everything" debate which is a perennial favorite around these parts...

 

 

[Ken Aldred]

The teleportation associated with a smoke cloud reminds me of Nightcrawler.