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Spider Man Ruined !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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slym2none

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Can someone translate, as Yahoo never loads properly for me - it's just a wall of unformated text.

 

Here’s a pretty funny footnote in the saga of the leaked Sony emails. Yesterday, a Twitter user unearthed a truly cringe-worthy list of suggestions for making Spider-Man more appealing to Millennials. As re-imagined by one Sony exec, Peter Parker is no longer a science nerd fighting crime on the down-low while taking care of his elderly aunt. No, the proposed Spidey does Tough Mudder events on the weekends, listens to EDM while he’s fighting crime, and uploads photos of his vegan dinners with the hashtag #NBD (No Big Deal). Sound insufferable? Read on!

 

The man behind this pitch is a Sony-affiliated executive whom former Sony head Amy Pascal has called a “brilliant Millennial research expert.” In November 2013, a few months before Sony’s The Amazing Spider-Man 2 opened in theaters, the exec sent Pascal an email with what he called “rando thoughts” about how to update Spidey’s image (possibly for a digital marketing campaign).

 

“A rising trend we see with Millennials are the really extreme forms of experiential exercise like Tough Mudder (a sort of filthy triathalon), the Color Run and even things like Hot Power Yoga, veganism, etc.,” he writes in his email to Pascal (which you can read on Wikileaks). “Millennials will often post ‘N.B.D.’ on their social media after doing it, as in No Big Deal, also known as the ‘humble brag’…..wondering if Spidey could get into that in some way….he’s super athletic, bendy, strong, intense….and it’s all NBD to him, of course.”

 

Of course! Everybody loves a humble brag! Particularly if it involves vegan food and yoga. Those are exactly the things missing in superhero movies.

 

Shore continues: “EDM (electronic dance music) is the defining music for Millennials. Wondering if there’s an EDM angle somewhere with Spidey? His movements are beautiful, would be awesome with a killer DJ behind it.”

 

Remember how 2003’s Daredevil was full of Nickelback and Hoobastank songs, because that’s what the kids were listening to? This sounds suspiciously like that. (Although, come to think of it, Skrillex would make a pretty good Spider-Man villain, what with the menacing mono-moniker and the black leather outfits. If an evil alien force weaponized his turntable, he’d be unstoppable!)

 

In fairness, this email is being seen out of context, and it feels more like these are marketing strategies to promote The Amazing Spider-Man 2 rather than suggestions for the films themselves. Nevertheless, the whole appeal of Peter Parker is that he’s a normal guy who struggles to keep it together in his daily life despite his celebrated crime-fighting alter ego. His spider powers make things more complicated for him; they are the opposite of NBD. Spidey is relatable in a way that Iron Man and Batman are not, and as a brand, that’s his real power.

 

Thanks, I had trouble reading this on the other page as well.

 

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-slym

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Spyder!

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Spider-Man was ruined in 2008 and it had nothing to do with Sony.

 

What do you think ruined Spider-Man? I say Dan Slott.

Joe Quesada killed the Spider-Man I loved. Dan Slott (and others) have been abusing his corpse for the last seven years.

 

The Spider-Man I love died when McFarlane's run ended. Don't care how unpopular that may be with some on the boards, it's just the way I feel. This is one of the problems with having so many different writers for a single character over so many years.

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Yup me too the 70s reruns got me into Spiderman

First issue I ever bought was 149-it was nothing like the cartoon....but I was hooked

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The problem with Spider-Man is that all the current writers, Slott in primis, are writing about someone else. The Spider-Man that Stan Lee created was a urban super-hero, his friends played an important role and the stories were about normal crime (carried out by subnormal enemies).

 

Nowadays it's all about endless limits. Spider-Man fights enemies from other dimensions and universes, he builds mini-robots that scan the entire city, he owns Parker Industries and he is full of money, etc.

 

Who is this guy?!? He is not our Petey. If Slott and other want to write about someone fighting other dimensions, etc. they should create a new character and go for it. But they should respect the history of Spidey.

 

I miss Kingpin, Hammer Head and all the other "normal" super villains.

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Spider-Man was ruined in 2008 and it had nothing to do with Sony.

 

What do you think ruined Spider-Man? I say Dan Slott.

Joe Quesada killed the Spider-Man I loved. Dan Slott (and others) have been abusing his corpse for the last seven years.

 

The Spider-Man I love died when McFarlane's run ended. Don't care how unpopular that may be with some on the boards, it's just the way I feel. This is one of the problems with having so many different writers for a single character over so many years.

I feel like he died when McFarlane's run started lol

 

Loved it as a kid, but it didn't age well.

 

Seriously though, those thoughts on updating Spiderman, they don't work for the character, but I could totally see a new superhero being written like that and it would work. And not bad, not like a superhero with MC Hammer pants and a Bart Simpson tattoo or anything too tied to current pop culture. But a superhero with a cocky attitude who used social media and actually spent a lot of his time focusing on diet and exercise. Maybe not born with the automatic superhero abs? But the nature of superhero comics is new characters are worthless. The only ones that matter were created in the first five years of this company that's been around for 55 years. So instead of creating a character that works with the concept, they'll just force one of the few A list characters into that box to make it work.

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The problem with Spider-Man is that all the current writers, Slott in primis, are writing about someone else. The Spider-Man that Stan Lee created was a urban super-hero, his friends played an important role and the stories were about normal crime (carried out by subnormal enemies).

 

Nowadays it's all about endless limits. Spider-Man fights enemies from other dimensions and universes, he builds mini-robots that scan the entire city, he owns Parker Industries and he is full of money, etc.

 

Who is this guy?!? He is not our Petey. If Slott and other want to write about someone fighting other dimensions, etc. they should create a new character and go for it. But they should respect the history of Spidey.

 

I miss Kingpin, Hammer Head and all the other "normal" super villains.

 

+1

 

Marvel gave that persona and world to Daredevil and it made him more popular than he was for the first 2 decades of his existence.

 

Spider-man they've turned into a safe franchise. It'll never be the same. He's the biggest selling superhero of merchandise by far, and Marvel isn't going to mess it up by having it too gritty.

 

It sucks.

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Amy Pascal is a insufficiently_thoughtful_person. Truly someone who has no understanding of what she's dealing with in this franchise.

 

From the moment she became Co-Chairperson at Sony in 2006 and she started sticking her nose into the Spider-man franchise (her changes to Spider-man 3 are part of what led Sam Raimi to leave) the movies have performed progressively worse.

 

Let's hope that her 'production company', which is supossedly producing the new Marvel Studios produced reboot of Spider-man, has their input ignored. They've done enough damage.

 

Spider-man doesn't need a marketing guru - everything you need is right there in the first two decades of his story in the comics.

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The problem with Spider-Man is that all the current writers, Slott in primis, are writing about someone else. The Spider-Man that Stan Lee created was a urban super-hero, his friends played an important role and the stories were about normal crime (carried out by subnormal enemies).

 

Nowadays it's all about endless limits. Spider-Man fights enemies from other dimensions and universes, he builds mini-robots that scan the entire city, he owns Parker Industries and he is full of money, etc.

 

Who is this guy?!? He is not our Petey. If Slott and other want to write about someone fighting other dimensions, etc. they should create a new character and go for it. But they should respect the history of Spidey.

 

I miss Kingpin, Hammer Head and all the other "normal" super villains.

 

+1

 

Marvel gave that persona and world to Daredevil and it made him more popular than he was for the first 2 decades of his existence.

 

Spider-man they've turned into a safe franchise. It'll never be the same. He's the biggest selling superhero of merchandise by far, and Marvel isn't going to mess it up by having it too gritty.

 

It sucks.

 

Wow, I hadn't realized that Parker/Spidey had moved that far from their roots. It does sound like a totally different character. That's pretty sad.

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