Is Submariner #1 considered a bronze age key?

[Lazyboy]

If it isn't then why not?

 

I haven't heard much about this book. You'd think it's only a matter of time before he makes an appearance somewhere.

 

Is this book on anyone's radar?

 

isn't bronze and isn't key

 

Okay then considered silver? But still not a key?

 

Every* series has an issue #1. So why would just being the first issue make it a key?

[Jeffro.]

If it isn't then why not?

 

I haven't heard much about this book. You'd think it's only a matter of time before he makes an appearance somewhere.

 

Is this book on anyone's radar?

 

isn't bronze and isn't key

 

Okay then considered silver? But still not a key?

 

Every* series has an issue #1. So why would just being the first issue make it a key?

 

I agree but as I said earlier, the term "key" is debatable.

 

I consider Nova 1 and Ms Marvel 1 to be keys because they are the first appearance of those characters. Subby 1? Not so much.

[StuporMan]

If it isn't then why not?

 

I haven't heard much about this book. You'd think it's only a matter of time before he makes an appearance somewhere.

 

Is this book on anyone's radar?

 

isn't bronze and isn't key

 

Okay then considered silver? But still not a key?

 

Every* series has an issue #1. So why would just being the first issue make it a key?

 

I agree but as I said earlier, the term "key" is debatable.

 

I consider Nova 1 and Ms Marvel 1 to be keys because they are the first appearance of those characters. Subby 1? Not so much.

 

+1

[Mjolnir!]

If it isn't then why not?

 

I haven't heard much about this book. You'd think it's only a matter of time before he makes an appearance somewhere.

 

Is this book on anyone's radar?

 

isn't bronze and isn't key

 

Okay then considered silver? But still not a key?

 

Every* series has an issue #1. So why would just being the first issue make it a key?

 

I agree but as I said earlier, the term "key" is debatable.

 

I consider Nova 1 and Ms Marvel 1 to be keys because they are the first appearance of those characters. Subby 1? Not so much.

 

+1

 

Anyone know what issue is Subby's first appearance? That has to be considered a key issue correct?

[The Less Blob]

Yes, Subby's first appearance may very well be a seven figure book (in top grade) [depending on which book you consider to be his first app, Marvel Comics 1 or Motion Picture Funnies Weekly 1..the release dates for each are in debate)

[StuporMan]

GA Sub Mariner/Human Torch fight in Marvel Mystery is a classic. Also don't forget FF#4 for his first Silver Age app.

[The Less Blob]

I consider Nova 1 and Ms Marvel 1 to be keys because they are the first appearance of those characters. Subby 1? Not so much.

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Well, I guess Carol Danvers, without super powers, had appeared several times before and she got exposed to the whatever that would eventually gel into her powers in Captain Marvel 18, so it's a bit less I think. More of a semi in my mind, but the market has bestowed key status on it in the last few years.

 

 

[Randall Ries]

In my mind, a key issue has to have had something significant happen in it. Like Batman #47, for example, or IH #181. Submariner standing with a trident looking all regal and buff doesn't qualify. FF #4 could be considered a key since it was his 1st appearance since his last appearance in the golden age. Which was - what - 6 years earlier? He hadn't really been away all that long.

 

The "market" might consider it a key to help garner higher values for sales time, but if something really noteworthy didn't happen in a book - #1 or not - something that filled in a major gap or changed the trajectory of a given character or characters, then it's just another book as a part or beginning of a series.

[The Less Blob]

I guess the mid-50s Sub-Mariner revival was such a bust (along with the attempt to revive Cap) Marvel acted like it didn't happen. (Jeez, every cover of the mid-50s Submariner comic is the same...him terrorizing some poor Russian sailors, why is Namor such a patriotic American?)

[Mjolnir!]

I guess the mid-50s Sub-Mariner revival was such a bust (along with the attempt to revive Cap) Marvel acted like it didn't happen. (Jeez, every cover of the mid-50s Submariner comic is the same...him terrorizing some poor Russian sailors, why is Namor such a patriotic American?)

 

Is he? I guess he is because he was on the Invaders team and fought in the World War.

 

Captain America must be the biggest single influence on Namor to play nice to the surface world.

 

Or perhaps Sue Richards back in the day.

[StuporMan]

I bet dollars to donuts Disney/Marvel is watching what happens with Aquaman...

[fett]

Marvel didn't get such a huge lead on DC in the current super-hero movie boom by watching them.

[Unca Ben]

I bet dollars to donuts Disney/Marvel is watching what happens with Aquaman...

 

I might be wrong but I don't believe Marvel Studios has the rights to Sub-Mariner.

 

Which is a shame.

Subby is the last of the original Silver age Marvel stars, that had their own series, yet to be in a feature film

 

edit: 1 of 2, if we want to include Captain Mar-Vell

[calcnerd]

Rights for subby is a bit unclear. I've read numerous things saying marvel has rights, then others saying they don't.

 

According to Bosco's thread he's owned by Universal

[divad]

I bet dollars to donuts Disney/Marvel is watching what happens with Aquaman...

 

Johnny's donuts are $4.25 - so that's a great deal!

[The Less Blob]

I bet dollars to donuts Disney/Marvel is watching what happens with Aquaman...

 

I might be wrong but I don't believe Marvel Studios has the rights to Sub-Mariner.

 

Which is a shame.

Subby is the last of the original Silver age Marvel stars, that had their own series, yet to be in a feature film

 

edit: 1 of 2, if we want to include Captain Mar-Vell

 

Giant Man & The Wasp!

 

Millie the Model!

 

Patsy & Heddy!

 

 

[StuporMan]

Marvel didn't get such a huge lead on DC in the current super-hero movie boom by watching them.

 

Then I guess DC beat them to the market for water-based heroes

[StuporMan]

I bet dollars to donuts Disney/Marvel is watching what happens with Aquaman...

 

I might be wrong but I don't believe Marvel Studios has the rights to Sub-Mariner.

 

Which is a shame.

Subby is the last of the original Silver age Marvel stars, that had their own series, yet to be in a feature film

 

edit: 1 of 2, if we want to include Captain Mar-Vell

 

I think Disney has enough power to buy the rights to whatever they want. Maybe the fact that they haven't bought the rights from Universal is proof that they have no plans for Subby?

[01TheDude]

Could be the after taste of Waterworld is still lingering.

[StuporMan]

Could be the after taste of Waterworld is still lingering.