Yikes! Pedigree Comics DC books

[tth2]

I was very bummed out about the Green Lantern #4. I hit the buy button for $2500 at about 11:30 last night and it said sale pending $2400 when I was done. I didn't think anything of it until today when I didn't have any confirmation in my email. Called Doug up this morning and asked him what happened and he said at the same time I hit the button he accepted the previous bid of $2400

 

Needless to say I was very sad.

 

I went down to my LCS (Eides Entertainment) and asked what the owner was planning on doing with his collection of DCs and he said that he felt they were underpriced and would go up eventually because everything is cyclical. You have seen his books on Ebay though so I am biding my time till he gets them graded. They are coming though and they are spectacular. He also agreed with what I was doing selling my post 1965 Marvels and buying one of a kind top graded DCs.

 

Eric, too bad you lost out on the GL #4. Great taste in books! (and no, I was not the buyer).

 

I would be a very happy camper if Eides started breaking out their DCs. Can you point out to the owner that a 9.4 copy of Flash 123 sold for $20K+ last year, so exactly how much more does he expect primo DCs to rise by before he will be ready to sell?

[FFB]

And not to belabor the point, but if anyone is wondering how hard it is to find these books in high grade, try the following experiment: next time you're at a large, national show, walk around the room to as many booths as you can and ask to see all of the 9.4 or better DCs from 1955 to 1964 that the dealer has. Then ask the same question as to 9.4 or better Marvels from before 1964. At a show like Wizard World Chicago, you'll lose track of all of the Marvels you'll find before you're done with Metropolis' booth. You may not find ten DCs by the time you finish checking the entire room.

There are no better proselytizers than the recently converted! Hallelujah!

 

It's all about the thrill of the chase. Wait until you see the B&B#25 that I just bought. Tom Murnane (blessed be his name) gave me the tip to find it.

 

Halleluja indeed!

 

You're never going to get me to collect those lame-arsed JLAs with cover art that shows superheroes turning into trees though.

[tth2]

You're never going to get me to collect those lame-arsed JLAs with cover art that shows superheroes turning into trees though.

Feh, me either! It's a stupid title. Stupid stupid stupid.

[FFB]

You're never going to get me to collect those lame-arsed JLAs with cover art that shows superheroes turning into trees though.

Feh, me either! It's a stupid title. Stupid stupid stupid.

 

IT'S A TRICK! BUY THEM ALL, PEOPLE!!!! BID BID BID!!!

[tth2]

You're never going to get me to collect those lame-arsed JLAs with cover art that shows superheroes turning into trees though.

Feh, me either! It's a stupid title. Stupid stupid stupid.

 

IT'S A TRICK! BUY THEM ALL, PEOPLE!!!! BID BID BID!!!

Ixnay on the ostingpay!

[FFB]

You're never going to get me to collect those lame-arsed JLAs with cover art that shows superheroes turning into trees though.

Feh, me either! It's a stupid title. Stupid stupid stupid.

 

IT'S A TRICK! BUY THEM ALL, PEOPLE!!!! BID BID BID!!!

Ixnay on the ostingpay!

 

And to think that you're vulnerable to a deep-pocketed competitor now that you've recently written a huge check for your daughter's tuition.

 

[tth2]

And to think that you're vulnerable to a deep-pocketed competitor now that you've recently written a huge check for your daughter's tuition.

 

Guess she's going to a public school! Priorities, people, priorities!

[FFB]

And to think that you're vulnerable to a deep-pocketed competitor now that you've recently written a huge check for your daughter's tuition.

 

Guess she's going to a public school! Priorities, people, priorities!

 

Don't let your wife read this.

[ericc123]

those are incredible prices for 9.2's. my point was that if he can attract a buyer at those levels then he's a force to be reckoned with and should be given serious consideration when consigning books. Marvel or DC.

 

Those are very strong prices. Since I don't collect to much DC, I don't have a feel for the multiple of guide they usually get. Early Marvels will get between 135-175% of guide for 9.2's, so over 3 times guides is clearly up there. Of course there is so little supply that when a copy becomes available, it might be a Now or Never situation.

 

Good for Doug!!!!!

I like to pretend I have a pretty good feel for early SA HG DC prices. 3-4X OS is not an uncommon multiple for early 9.2s of early issues of major titles. JLAs between 1-10, GLs between 1-10, Flashes below 130, and key early Showcases and B&Bs, have achieved these types of multiples on those rare occasions when 9.2 copies have surfaced. Steve, you're exactly right, there's definitely a "now or never" mentality that takes hold when these types of books in these types of grades appear.

 

My hat's definitely off to Doug for finding these great books (Doug, when are you going to find some DCs that I need?). The 9.2 GL 4 and 9.4 GL 11 were definitely the picks of the litter, and not surprisingly they flew off the shelf. The 9.4 GL 16 that he's got is a nice book too, but priced a tad aggressively considering it's relatively easier to find in HG (Namisgr picked up a beautiful 9.4 copy for much less on eBay recently) and there is a 9.6 copy in existence (locked up in HK, natch!). The prices he's asking for the Aquamans are a bit pricey too, as Aquaman has never quite commanded the same types of premiums as some of the other mainstream titles, although issues in the teens are surprisingly hard to find in HG.

 

My only real gripe is his description of the GL 11 being the only 9.4 copy in existence. Actually, I think the copy he sold is so new that it has not appeared in the census yet. There is already one 9.4 copy in the census, which I think he mistakenly thought was his copy.

 

I think that 9.4 copy of GL #11 is his. I checked the census when the book first hit his site two days ago and there were zero 9.4s listed and five 9.2s. Now when I went to check on it because you mentioned that a 9.4 was on the census one is indeed there. I would say it's his copy.

 

Eric

[tth2]

I think that 9.4 copy of GL #11 is his. I checked the census when the book first hit his site two days ago and there were zero 9.4s listed and five 9.2s. Now when I went to check on it because you mentioned that a 9.4 was on the census one is indeed there. I would say it's his copy.

Something screwy with the CGC census, then, because I've owned a 9.4 GL #11 since September 2002, and there has been 1 9.4 in the census the whole time. That's not my copy that just got sold on Pedigree. I would expect that when the next census update happens, it will show 2 9.4s.

[Silver Surfer]

those are incredible prices for 9.2's. my point was that if he can attract a buyer at those levels then he's a force to be reckoned with and should be given serious consideration when consigning books. Marvel or DC.

 

Just a theory. I suspect that most DC's back in the SA couldn't compete with what Marvel was cranking out back then so a lot early DC stuff from the 60's didn't sell as well and probably were tossed aside by most buyers and not collected as religously? Move 40 years forward and that probably explains why these are so rare in high grade and inturn so expensive. Thoughts, comments?

 

Most of the books being discussed when people talk about "tough DCs" came out before Fantastic Four #1, so...

 

There's been an awful lot of discussion of this topic here, actually.

 

Makes sense., kind of like pre-hero Marvel's in high grade.

[kiltman]

Wonder when the next census update will be.

[ericc123]

I think that 9.4 copy of GL #11 is his. I checked the census when the book first hit his site two days ago and there were zero 9.4s listed and five 9.2s. Now when I went to check on it because you mentioned that a 9.4 was on the census one is indeed there. I would say it's his copy.

Something screwy with the CGC census, then, because I've owned a 9.4 GL #11 since September 2002, and there has been 1 9.4 in the census the whole time. That's not my copy that just got sold on Pedigree. I would expect that when the next census update happens, it will show 2 9.4s.

 

That is wierd but I am sure that the census said 0 9.4s just a day or two ago. As things are I'd say you're right there will now be at least 2 9.4s when the census is updated yours and the one on Pedigree comics. Eh...I wanted the #4 anyway

[ericc123]

Wonder when the next census update will be.

 

They do it four times a year right? So if the last update was on 2/9/05 most likely not any time soon.

 

Eric

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Wonder when the next census update will be.

 

 

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They do it four times a year right? So if the last update was on 2/9/05 most likely not any time soon.

 

Eric

 

They pretty much update it when they want to. Sometimes it's three months, other times it's been about a month. I think they try to do more updates around convention season.

[kiltman]

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Wonder when the next census update will be.

 

 

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They do it four times a year right? So if the last update was on 2/9/05 most likely not any time soon.

 

Eric

 

They pretty much update it when they want to. Sometimes it's three months, other times it's been about a month. I think they try to do more updates around convention season.

 

Surely it cant be that difficult to update the census right? i mean if they are taking note of the comics once they have been graded and entering ti into the census then all they have to do is update on the website every now and then.

 

Unless of course they are taking note in such a way that they have to go the census when the time comes to update and write them all in individually?

[JLA_ALL_THE_WAY]

You're never going to get me to collect those lame-arsed JLAs with cover art that shows superheroes turning into trees though.

Feh, me either! It's a stupid title. Stupid stupid stupid.

 

IT'S A TRICK! BUY THEM ALL, PEOPLE!!!! BID BID BID!!!

 

OK.

Thanx for the tip.

 

Rick