Coverless Golden Record Reprint 0

[Captain Canuck]

How can you tell the difference between a coverless Golden Record Reprint and the original Silver Age key?

[Philflound]

12 pages

[Captain Canuck]

Golden Record is only 12 pages and the original is longer, no other differences? I have a FF1 coverless and looks like the original, nothing discernsable. Numbering and images are the same?

[cousin itt]

The advertisements should be different.  I think the GRR will either not have adds, or only have adds for golden records related stuff.

[Captain Canuck]

Here is an image I found a GRR, if you look at the bottom right panel, the brick ledge  where the smoke is, is complete. 

Edited February 9, 2017 by Captain Canuck

[Captain Canuck]

Here is my copy:

Back cover:

 

Edited February 9, 2017 by Captain Canuck

[cousin itt]

In a real FF #1, the coloring on the smoke of reeds smoke gun (bottom right panel) is different.

[cousin itt]

Yeah, the bottom right panel on yours (smoke color) matches my FF #1.

Edited February 9, 2017 by cousin itt

[Captain Canuck]

CGC just told me on my submission form that it is a GRR Variant, but just don't see it. My original FF looks the same and has the same white space in the smoke, where the GRR is filled in. Any further clarification? Hoping CGC just made a mistake. 

[cousin itt]

I'm pretty sure they're wrong.  That ad on the last page also matches my FF #1, and I'm 97.3% certain that ad is not in the GRR.  Unfortunately my grrs of FF #1 are all slabbed and I don't think I have pics of the interior on those, but I'll check... Does yours have the ad I mentioned before after page 6?

[Captain Canuck]

Unfortunately it is at CGC and don't have any further images, but have a feeling that they are wrong. I was always told that GRR doesn't have any ads, too many red flags here. 

[cousin itt]

Well, all I can say is the pics you posted match my real FF #1, and don't match the pics you posted of the FF #1 GRR.  In fact, I *think* the final story page in the GRR is printed in black&white on the inside back cover... maybe that's a different GRR, but I thought it was the FF #1.

 

Has it been graded yet?  If it is just in their filing system, sometimes stuff like this changes once it gets to grading.

Edited February 9, 2017 by cousin itt

[cousin itt]

Actually, yes, I'm right... the last story page of FF #1 GRR is in black & white on the inside back cover and there is no ad.  See this ebay listing.  So, now I'm 99.36731% certain yours is the real deal.

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fantastic-Four-1-Golden-Record-Reprint-Marvel-1966-Unrestored-1st-FF-GRR-/322391592455?hash=item4b10094e07%3Ag%3AkaEAAOSwjDZYe7Od&nma=true&si=V9LoncX42hSrK9bfK0PzT4ZfGxI%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

[Captain Canuck]

It was just recently submitted to CGC, has not been graded yet. Never seen info appear this quickly on my online submission form. 

[Captain Canuck]

I think the dead giveaway is the first page and the smoke. Maybe I should contact cgc to clarify. 

[cousin itt]

Yeah, I'd call tomorrow and get it corrected.

[Captain Canuck]

Thanks!

[cousin itt]