General discussion thread - keep the other threads clean 29 29

[HarveySwick]

Also GIJOEISAWESOME had that annoying signature line at the time...

Something about this thread is SS'd by me, myself and I

^ = (thumbs u

[jop]

I'm looking at the Usage Guidelines, and it seems to me that people were "nudging" said buyer. Several folks made a point of being nice with their posts.

 

Here's what I'm referencing:

This is a suggested "ok to post" rules reminder template so that everyone can feel comfortable helping to keep things in line with the guidelines instead of feeling like a self appointed forum cop.

 

If someone is not complying with the rules, this should be considered an OK way for everyone around here to nudge people a bit. Once in a thread is plenty, guys. After that you can re-post it in new threads (once) but then just hit the notify moderator button if things don't get cleaned up.

 

I didn't realize that I was threadcrapping, so I'll learn from it and move on. Not sure what constitutes threadcrapping, so I'll go looking for other rules threads. I see so much randomness posted in numerous sales threads that I'm a bit puzzled at the moment.

 

See the bolded section.

 

"Nudging" is allowed if the member's thread is in violation of the rules. It's already been established that this member's thread, while not ideal, was within the parameters of the rules. There was no rule violation, therefore no "nudging" should be allowed in the thread.

 

Edit to add:

 

To help clarify what a threadcrap may be, it's instructive to understand what a "nudge" actually is.

 

Arch has given very specific instructions on how to nudge: you politely paste the section of rules that the member is violating without extraneous comment.

 

None of the comments in this particular members sales thread did that. They definitely were not nudges.

 

Another way to look at threadcrapping: ask yourself, would I appreciate someone making this comment directly in my sales thread? Or would I prefer that he PM me about it?

 

So asking about his pricing differences are not ok and are considered threadcrapping.........even though....nah nevermind not worth the effort If I deserve a strike then so be it.........twas an honest question looking for an honest answer.

 

Yes his books, his prices should I have asked in PM? Why I had a genuine question and depending on his answer was going to ask about other books he had previously listed. Did I break a board rule? nope at least not where it is written in the rules. I looked and can't find anywhere at all it might be an unwritten rule but I have been told things before .........ehhh nevermind I will do what I came here originally to do buy and not bother having to talk

[HarveySwick]

[comicdonna]

I see the thread has been cleansed.

[Bosco685]

Mystery Box threads are a different beast. People finding them sketchy, or being extra scrutinizing seems pretty reasonable to me.

 

Of course, I say this knowing nothing about GIJOEISAWESOME's thread, but this is the Internet and I can do that!

 

I understand how at first someone announcing they are offering mystery boxes can make anyone step by and question. I'll admit it, I don't buy them.

 

But GIJOEISAWESOME posted enough details (including pictures) in an attempt to bring comfort. But then two to three people came along and wanted exact details of what books were included, what grade, and then started talking about the value of each compared to Ebay sales.

 

That's a little much.

[Bosco685]

I see the thread has been cleansed.

 

It needed to be.

[bababooey]

I see the thread has been cleansed.

 

It needed to be.

 

[N/A]

I'm looking at the Usage Guidelines, and it seems to me that people were "nudging" said buyer. Several folks made a point of being nice with their posts.

 

Here's what I'm referencing:

This is a suggested "ok to post" rules reminder template so that everyone can feel comfortable helping to keep things in line with the guidelines instead of feeling like a self appointed forum cop.

 

If someone is not complying with the rules, this should be considered an OK way for everyone around here to nudge people a bit. Once in a thread is plenty, guys. After that you can re-post it in new threads (once) but then just hit the notify moderator button if things don't get cleaned up.

 

I didn't realize that I was threadcrapping, so I'll learn from it and move on. Not sure what constitutes threadcrapping, so I'll go looking for other rules threads. I see so much randomness posted in numerous sales threads that I'm a bit puzzled at the moment.

 

See the bolded section.

 

"Nudging" is allowed if the member's thread is in violation of the rules. It's already been established that this member's thread, while not ideal, was within the parameters of the rules. There was no rule violation, therefore no "nudging" should be allowed in the thread.

 

Edit to add:

 

To help clarify what a threadcrap may be, it's instructive to understand what a "nudge" actually is.

 

Arch has given very specific instructions on how to nudge: you politely paste the section of rules that the member is violating without extraneous comment.

 

None of the comments in this particular members sales thread did that. They definitely were not nudges.

 

Another way to look at threadcrapping: ask yourself, would I appreciate someone making this comment directly in my sales thread? Or would I prefer that he PM me about it?

 

So asking about his pricing differences are not ok and are considered threadcrapping.........even though....nah nevermind not worth the effort If I deserve a strike then so be it.........twas an honest question looking for an honest answer.

 

Yes his books, his prices should I have asked in PM? Why I had a genuine question and depending on his answer was going to ask about other books he had previously listed. Did I break a board rule? nope at least not where it is written in the rules. I looked and can't find anywhere at all it might be an unwritten rule but I have been told things before .........ehhh nevermind I will do what I came here originally to do buy and not bother having to talk

 

Read the rules again and practice PM's.

[Bosco685]

I see the thread has been cleansed.

 

It needed to be.

 

 

[jop]

I'm looking at the Usage Guidelines, and it seems to me that people were "nudging" said buyer. Several folks made a point of being nice with their posts.

 

Did I break a board rule? nope at least not where it is written in the rules. I looked and can't find anywhere at all.

 

Read the rules again and practice PM's.

 

Read em still say nothing about asking a legitimate question and nope need no practice in PM's am pretty good at it.......

 

[comix4fun]

I'm looking at the Usage Guidelines, and it seems to me that people were "nudging" said buyer. Several folks made a point of being nice with their posts.

 

Did I break a board rule? nope at least not where it is written in the rules. I looked and can't find anywhere at all.

 

Read the rules again and practice PM's.

 

Read em still say nothing about asking a legitimate question and nope need no practice in PM's am pretty good at it.......

 

 

How is questioning a seller's pricing, simply and solely because items are priced differently in two different threads a "legitimate" question to be asked in the middle of his current sales thread?

 

 

 

 

[Speedy-D]

I'm looking at the Usage Guidelines, and it seems to me that people were "nudging" said buyer. Several folks made a point of being nice with their posts.

 

Did I break a board rule? nope at least not where it is written in the rules. I looked and can't find anywhere at all.

 

Read the rules again and practice PM's.

 

Read em still say nothing about asking a legitimate question and nope need no practice in PM's am pretty good at it.......

Then why have you failed so egregiously?

[N/A]

I'm looking at the Usage Guidelines, and it seems to me that people were "nudging" said buyer. Several folks made a point of being nice with their posts.

 

Did I break a board rule? nope at least not where it is written in the rules. I looked and can't find anywhere at all.

 

Read the rules again and practice PM's.

 

Read em still say nothing about asking a legitimate question and nope need no practice in PM's am pretty good at it.......

 

Oh gotcha, yeah, it wasn't a legitimate question for the sales thread. (thumbs u

[jop]

How?

 

Hmm because it was a question he invited saying he had paid OSPG prices which opened the door ya know what nevermind I have no need, desire nor inclination to explain myself to you or anyone else.

 

If what I did was wrong and against board rules where is my strike?

 

Ya know why because it isn't. It might not be politically correct or an accepted practice but no where in the rules does it state you may not ask a question about his pricing especially when you were going to ask about buying other books he had listed in his previous thread.

 

 

[N/A]

I'm looking at the Usage Guidelines, and it seems to me that people were "nudging" said buyer. Several folks made a point of being nice with their posts.

 

Did I break a board rule? nope at least not where it is written in the rules. I looked and can't find anywhere at all.

 

Read the rules again and practice PM's.

 

Read em still say nothing about asking a legitimate question and nope need no practice in PM's am pretty good at it.......

 

 

How is questioning a seller's pricing, simply and solely because items are priced differently in two different threads a "legitimate" question to be asked in the middle of his current sales thread?

 

 

 

 

It's not. He just refuses to admit he was wrong.

[N/A]

How?

 

Hmm because it was a question he invited saying he had paid OSPG prices which opened the door ya know what nevermind I have no need, desire nor inclination to explain myself to you or anyone else.

 

If what I did was wrong and against board rules where is my strike?

 

Ya know why because it isn't. It might not be politically correct or an accepted practice but no where in the rules does it state you may not ask a question about his pricing especially when you were going to ask about buying other books he had listed in his previous thread.

 

 

Keep doing it and see where it gets you. (thumbs u

[jop]

How?

 

Hmm because it was a question he invited saying he had paid OSPG prices which opened the door ya know what nevermind I have no need, desire nor inclination to explain myself to you or anyone else.

 

If what I did was wrong and against board rules where is my strike?

 

Ya know why because it isn't. It might not be politically correct or an accepted practice but no where in the rules does it state you may not ask a question about his pricing especially when you were going to ask about buying other books he had listed in his previous thread.

 

 

Keep doing it and see where it gets you. (thumbs u

 

 

Woah man watch with the veiled threats man.....not cool

[Speedy-D]

How?

 

Hmm because it was a question he invited saying he had paid OSPG prices which opened the door ya know what nevermind I have no need, desire nor inclination to explain myself to you or anyone else.

 

If what I did was wrong and against board rules where is my strike?

 

Ya know why because it isn't. It might not be politically correct or an accepted practice but no where in the rules does it state you may not ask a question about his pricing especially when you were going to ask about buying other books he had listed in his previous thread.

 

Easy m'man. You're wrong here, but it's okay. Threadcrapping is real, and people do get strikes for it. If you don't see that in the rules you've been looking at, it doesn't mean it's not true. And your post, calling out a seller's prices in his sales thread, is the #1 definition of threadcrapping. You probably won't get a strike for it, but you might. Or you might get a wrist slap. But whether or not that happens, please understand that on the CGC Message Boards, questioning a seller's grades or prices in their thread is considered threadcrapping, and it's a no-no.

[jop]

How?

 

Hmm because it was a question he invited saying he had paid OSPG prices which opened the door ya know what nevermind I have no need, desire nor inclination to explain myself to you or anyone else.

 

If what I did was wrong and against board rules where is my strike?

 

Ya know why because it isn't. It might not be politically correct or an accepted practice but no where in the rules does it state you may not ask a question about his pricing especially when you were going to ask about buying other books he had listed in his previous thread.

 

Easy m'man. You're wrong here, but it's okay. Threadcrapping is real, and people do get strikes for it. If you don't see that in the rules you've been looking at, it doesn't mean it's not true. And your post, calling out a seller's prices in his sales thread, is the #1 definition of threadcrapping. You probably won't get a strike for it, but you might. Or you might get a wrist slap. But whether or not that happens, please understand that on the CGC Message Boards, questioning a seller's grades or prices in their thread is considered threadcrapping, and it's a no-no.

 

Speedy if true then why is it not written where someone can learn the rules without having things be pointed at them?

 

 

[Speedy-D]

Also, you should consider the fact that you're kinda making a scene here, and people will remember. When you're new and you fly off the handle like this over nothing, it makes people skittish about dealing with you.