Zacreth Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 PGM ASM #129 So I bought a collection last week with tons of books. Mostly from the 80-late 90's with lots of keys and a full run of ASM. Here is a book that I'm curious about. I know of a topic I read a long time ago about how grocery stores would mark usually one side of the book that they sold with a marker. Apparently they must have done this to entire stack of ASM 129's! Anyways, what grade do you place on this? I'm thinking of sending it in for a press but will end up grading it but I am curious on your thoughts... Front Cover: Back Cover: Back Cover Angle: Inside Front Cover: Inside Back Cover: The book lays flat overall but there's a slight bend on the top right that would benefit from a press. What's your Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glassman10 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 I have been told that type of marking is done during the distribution process to mark off a grouping of books.It usually is just on the very end of the book as a few bands of color and was not going to downgrade the book value. This is something else though and it's hard for me to believe the book will not seriously suffer in grade given the seriously heavy bleed. Other than the entire problem, the book looks like it's in pretty nice shape,something like an 8.0= 8.5, especially if you like blue. I genuinely would not know how to grade this defect and I would not bother with a press. I'll wait for the big kids on this one. qbradford and porcupine48 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceParker Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Huh interesting book, without the blue I would agree with the same 7.5-8.5. It's obviously just a manufacture's defect as Glassman says. I would say it might effect the value of the book, but not the grade. I would say a press would help from the pictures; the corners are a bit rounded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zacreth Posted June 20, 2017 Author Share Posted June 20, 2017 I'm surprised the grades quoted. The top right front corner would benefit from a press but if you can look pass the blue marking the book is very remarkably in great condition. There's a bit by the top staple but nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sorb3t Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 I know of a seller who was selling lots of these heavy blue sprayed comics about 5ish years ago on ebay in big lots. There were mostly bronze age Marvels and they looked unread except for the blue paint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glassman10 Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 It continually amazes me as to what can happen to ruin one's profit at the end of a day. In Glass, I know about a million ways to lose money, some big some small. I remember a big German company making 30,000 lbs of a dichroic glass because they did not check the supply shed to see if they had enough Neodymium so the technical specs did not match up to the contract. . Bad move. Try to imagine shipping comic books all over the country to bus stations that could care less all for .12 cents a copy. Stan really was a visionary if he could put up with that stuff. We get to squabble over the errors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mosconi Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 (edited) On 6/20/2017 at 2:23 PM, Zacreth said: I'm surprised the grades quoted. The top right front corner would benefit from a press but if you can look pass the blue marking the book is very remarkably in great condition. There's a bit by the top staple but nothing else. This book looks to be structurally in beautiful condition. Just the very light top staple wear. The corner's look fine, but the distributor ink bleed can mistakenly make the bottom right corner look rounded. Without the distributor spray, I would say a very solid 9.2 or 9.4. But the spray is so overwhelming and such an eyesore, the grade has to suffer dramatically. I can't see giving this any higher than an 8.0 based on the reduced eye appeal. Would be interested to see how CGC grades this book Edited June 23, 2017 by mosconi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zacreth Posted June 27, 2017 Author Share Posted June 27, 2017 Sorry for the delay. I ended up going through several more boxes to pull copies out to get them all pressed and graded. We'll see what CGC's opinion is on the overspray on this book. Thanks everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zacreth Posted October 24, 2017 Author Share Posted October 24, 2017 I linked this book to a for sale thread in the forum since the book is back and the grade was a bit of a let down but I'll scan the front and back of the book so people can see and CGC definitely graded it harshly with the notes only stating "heavy distribution ink back cover" "heavy distribution ink full bottom of front cover" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Point Five Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 That is indeed some heavy staining. I don't know how CGC handles it but I'll throw out a guess of 3.0. FoggyNelson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badback83 Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 3 minutes ago, Zacreth said: I linked this book to a for sale thread in the forum since the book is back and the grade was a bit of a let down but I'll scan the front and back of the book so people can see and CGC definitely graded it harshly with the notes only stating "heavy distribution ink back cover" "heavy distribution ink full bottom of front cover" Dang, sorry to hear about the grade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zacreth Posted October 24, 2017 Author Share Posted October 24, 2017 LOL.. not that low Point Five, but mid range. FedEx is delivering the books today so I'll get it scanned tonight and posted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grebal Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 5 hours ago, Zacreth said: I linked this book to a for sale thread in the forum since the book is back and the grade was a bit of a let down but I'll scan the front and back of the book so people can see and CGC definitely graded it harshly with the notes only stating "heavy distribution ink back cover" "heavy distribution ink full bottom of front cover" That is commonplace, experts have educated me. Maybe a FN 6.0, small chance at just a 5.5 or 5.0. Probably not going to get a 6.5 with all that ink. I think CGC has been pretty consistent with this but don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spawn1709 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Is it a stain or a manufacturers defect? I don't think CGC will mark it to roughly if it is a manufacturers defect, but if it is a stain... that's an entirely different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zacreth Posted October 25, 2017 Author Share Posted October 25, 2017 Well there's some issue with the box and it ended up being shipped back to CGC. Since i don't have the book to scan I will say that it was graded a 6.5 with the only notes stating the heavy distribution ink. ADAMANTIUM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Point Five Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 If I'm honest, given the degree of staining I'd be elated with a 6.5 on that book. I think ~95% of CGC's grading is rock solid and sensible, but these kinds of grading loopholes where they basically pretend the staining isn't there are probably my biggest pet peeve with CGC's standards. So FWIW, I think you did great! Sorry about the shipping issue though, hope it resolves quickly. 1950's war comics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zacreth Posted October 26, 2017 Author Share Posted October 26, 2017 I didn't know what to expect with it so it's not bad. I have 2 other copies that were in my father's collection so this one will put up for sale somewhere. The bay most likely. But it was interesting to see how it would be graded with that much ink on the book. grebal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zacreth Posted November 2, 2017 Author Share Posted November 2, 2017 Just for future reference here's the scanned book. STORMSHADOW_80 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-Collector Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 12 hours ago, Zacreth said: Just for future reference here's the scanned book. I think that is a pretty good grade for that amount of over-spray. If the book had been stained to that degree by anything other than dist ink you'd be looking at a 5.0 at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zacreth Posted November 3, 2017 Author Share Posted November 3, 2017 3 hours ago, The-Collector said: I think that is a pretty good grade for that amount of over-spray. If the book had been stained to that degree by anything other than dist ink you'd be looking at a 5.0 at best. True. It's just sad since it is a good looking copy if it didn't have the spray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
