Sdmeyer11 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 (edited) I just started getting back into the comics and decided to pull some of my more valuable books for grading. This Hulk 181 looks great to me but I'm not sure how that translates to CGC. The scan of the back makes it look much dirtier than it appears to the naked eye. Would a press\dry clean help? Let me know what you guys\gals think. Edited December 21, 2017 by Sdmeyer11 Grade Update Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADAMANTIUM Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 It looks in good shape my Gut says 7.0 but it's got to be higher than that..... 7.5 8.0 maybe just because of the fanning and the issues that usually results with a book like that....like pinholes, off-white pages...dirt etc?? I'd give it a 8.0 but CGC is different entity haha Hopefully you get some feedback, great looking book!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sdmeyer11 Posted September 18, 2017 Author Share Posted September 18, 2017 I was shocked when I saw the scans because I feel they make the book look worse. I didn't even notice the fanning until I saw the scan...I know that seems odd. No pinholes but the pages are off-white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADAMANTIUM Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sdmeyer11 said: I was shocked when I saw the scans because I feel they make the book look worse. I didn't even notice the fanning until I saw the scan...I know that seems odd. No pinholes but the pages are off-white. Then I'd stretch to 8.5 without the dirt, but I've had coppers that looked like this that came back 7.0... I don't really see any spine ticks....it just looks "worn" or less crisp, maybe taken care of but we'll read? Idk Edited September 18, 2017 by ADAMANTIUM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STORMSHADOW_80 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 8.0. It kind of looks like some slight staining on the back. ADAMANTIUM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppy73 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Based on the scans I'd say 7.5. If the dirt is truly an artifact from scanning the I'd bump the grade to an 8.5. Either way it's a nice book! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1950's war comics Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 CGC 6.5 FoggyNelson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grebal Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Yeah, it's a great book, very fresh looking, but that pair of very small stains near the bottom staple could be hammered (an expression I picked up here) by CGC, possibly jamming you into the high 6 territory. I've notice a lot of defects when looking at my scans after I graded a comic, and my eyes missed stuff that the scan reveals or even exaggerates - particularly with whites (like back covers). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicquant Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Dry-clean and press will go a long way, especially in removing some of the loose grime on the back cover. Pressing can help with the fanning since its a post manufacturing roll as opposed to the structure of the book. As others have mentioned the stains on the back cover (looks like a grease stain in the yellow coupon) will detract quite a bit. I'm also at a 7.0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badback83 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 7.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADAMANTIUM Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 my gut was right (presumably) haha I just couldn't see all the defects other's suggested, but I knew somehow they where there Creepy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuscemasAvengers Posted September 23, 2017 Share Posted September 23, 2017 Press and clean puts it into the 7.0-7.5 range, maybe an 8.0 if the planets align ... nice copy ... what else are you "pulling out" of the stacks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sdmeyer11 Posted September 25, 2017 Author Share Posted September 25, 2017 On 9/23/2017 at 10:58 AM, BuscemasAvengers said: Press and clean puts it into the 7.0-7.5 range, maybe an 8.0 if the planets align ... nice copy ... what else are you "pulling out" of the stacks? Amazing Spiderman 129, 238, 252 and 300...Hulk 180, Captain America 100, Giant Size Spiderman 4, New Mutants 87, X-Men 94, 137 & 266....just to name a few. ADAMANTIUM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sdmeyer11 Posted December 21, 2017 Author Share Posted December 21, 2017 So, the grade is in and this one turned out to be special. If anyone saw it on Facebook, this copy turned out to be the 10,000th Hulk 181 graded by CGC. I sent it out for a press (3rd party) and then off to grading. If you saw the Facebook post about this book it came back as an 8.0. After they made the Facebook post I was contacted and told the graders thought a press would help (even though I had it pressed) and they offered to press and regrade which I kindly accepted the offer. Well, the book came back as an 8.5 after re-pressing. I can't say enough about this experience with CGC, they were great to work with. Thank you to Brittany and everyone at CGC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADAMANTIUM Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 34 minutes ago, Sdmeyer11 said: So, the grade is in and this one turned out to be special. If anyone saw it on Facebook, this copy turned out to be the 10,000th Hulk 181 graded by CGC. I sent it out for a press (3rd party) and then off to grading. If you saw the Facebook post about this book it came back as an 8.0. After they made the Facebook post I was contacted and told the graders thought a press would help (even though I had it pressed) and they offered to press and regrade which I kindly accepted the offer. Well, the book came back as an 8.5 after re-pressing. I can't say enough about this experience with CGC, they were great to work with. Thank you to Brittany and everyone at CGC. I indeed saw it on Facebook! I posted about it in the Hulk 181 club in bronze! So glad that it belongs to a fellow boardie !!!! That is an unexpected but AWESOME surprise! 1950's war comics and MustEatBrains 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAvenger80 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 iiiiiinteresting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber-Bob Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 On 12/21/2017 at 2:17 PM, Sdmeyer11 said: So, the grade is in and this one turned out to be special. If anyone saw it on Facebook, this copy turned out to be the 10,000th Hulk 181 graded by CGC. I sent it out for a press (3rd party) and then off to grading. If you saw the Facebook post about this book it came back as an 8.0. After they made the Facebook post I was contacted and told the graders thought a press would help (even though I had it pressed) and they offered to press and regrade which I kindly accepted the offer. Well, the book came back as an 8.5 after re-pressing. I can't say enough about this experience with CGC, they were great to work with. Thank you to Brittany and everyone at CGC. That's a cool story and a nice touch by CGC . I trust, in the future, you will send your books to be pressed by CCS instead of a 3rd party individual. Without debating the quality of pressing, I really think there is advantage to getting a freshly pressed book to the graders as soon as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1950's war comics Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 special label connotation for the 10,000 IH181 is AMAZING !!! FoggyNelson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehumantorch Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 On 12/21/2017 at 1:17 PM, Sdmeyer11 said: So, the grade is in and this one turned out to be special. If anyone saw it on Facebook, this copy turned out to be the 10,000th Hulk 181 graded by CGC. I sent it out for a press (3rd party) and then off to grading. If you saw the Facebook post about this book it came back as an 8.0. After they made the Facebook post I was contacted and told the graders thought a press would help (even though I had it pressed) and they offered to press and regrade which I kindly accepted the offer. Well, the book came back as an 8.5 after re-pressing. I can't say enough about this experience with CGC, they were great to work with. Thank you to Brittany and everyone at CGC. That's cool, didn't realize they noted milestone grading #s like that. Has anyone see other examples of this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sdmeyer11 Posted December 27, 2017 Author Share Posted December 27, 2017 16 hours ago, Bomber-Bob said: That's a cool story and a nice touch by CGC . I trust, in the future, you will send your books to be pressed by CCS instead of a 3rd party individual. Without debating the quality of pressing, I really think there is advantage to getting a freshly pressed book to the graders as soon as possible. That's a great question and I never thought about the time from pressing to grading. Not to mention skipping the step of packaging and shipping which could (but obviously shouldn't) cause damage too. My main hang up with CCS is the processing time but if it means a few books get higher grades it's worth the wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...