___ Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 (edited) I have about exhausted my search for high grade indies that had very small print runs or very hard to find in high grade. Anyone else have suggestions from what I have? This can crossover somewhat into moderns but for the most part they are cooper books. This is what I have come up with so far in alpha order: 30 days of night #1 (first print) Albedo #2 (Usagi Yojimbo) Betty & Veronica #320 (Cheryl Blossom) Bone #1 (1st print Red logo) Cerebus #1 Comico Primer #2 (1st Grendel) Copra #1-6 (all hand serial numbered) Cursed Pirate Girl #1 (Comixpress) Deadline #1 (Tank Girl) Death Rattle #8 (XENOZOIC TALES) Farlaine #1 (first printing, pre-fire) Goon #1 (Avatar) Greed #6 (Milk & Cheese) Hillbilly #1 (Baltimore Variant) Love & Rockets #1 (Self published) Mouse Guard #1 (Comixpress B/W) Next Men 21 (Hellboy) Strangers in Paradise #1 TMNT #1 (1st or 2nd print) Visions #1 (Flaming Carrot) Edited October 18, 2018 by 1p36DSA Spikenector 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingDonut Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 8 hours ago, 1p36DSA said: I have about exhausted my search for high grade indies that had very small print runs or very hard to find in high grade. Anyone else have suggestions from what I have? This can crossover somewhat into moderns but for the most part they are cooper books. This is what I have come up with so far in no particular order. Mouse Guard #1 (Comixpress B/W) Cursed Pirate Girl #1 (Comixpress) Greed #6 (Milk & Cheese) Bone #1 (1st print Red logo) Bone #2 (Thorn) Albedo #2 (Usagi Yojimbo) Betty & Veronica #320 (Cheryl Blossom) Goon #1 (Avatar) Hillbilly #1 Copra #1-6 Cerebus #1 Love & Rockets #1 (Self published) Strangers in Paradise #1 Comico Primer #2 (1st Grendel) TMNT #1 (1st or 2nd print) Visions #1 (Flaming Carrot) - still searching, any leads are appreciated First appearance of Cursed Pirate Girl. 300 printed. Self published prozine: ___, ygogolak and KobaltDog 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsupreme Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 (edited) Might I suggest GOLD DIGGER #1. A series still going strong today and every issue done by one creator:FRED PERRY! Currently there are almost 250 issues to date. Edited February 10, 2018 by Dogsupreme ygogolak, ___ and Brock 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aardvark88 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 You can try Flaming Carrot 8.5" x 11" b/w ashcans circa #17 to 20. Print runs seem to be btwn 50 to 200 copies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex_Luthor Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 On 2/9/2018 at 8:48 PM, FlyingDonut said: First appearance of Cursed Pirate Girl. 300 printed. Self published prozine: Whats the story on this book? I have never seen it before. I always thought YE OLD LORE OF YORE was the first Cursed Pirate Girl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingDonut Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Was published as a college project by the artists shown. I bought it from David Peterson and Jeremy Bastian who auctioned it off at the Baltimore Comic Con. They said this was their first published work together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakman29 Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 On 2/9/2018 at 12:33 PM, 1p36DSA said: I have about exhausted my search for high grade indies that had very small print runs or very hard to find in high grade. Anyone else have suggestions from what I have? This can crossover somewhat into moderns but for the most part they are cooper books. This is what I have come up with so far in no particular order. Mouse Guard #1 (Comixpress B/W) Cursed Pirate Girl #1 (Comixpress) Greed #6 (Milk & Cheese) Bone #1 (1st print Red logo) Bone #2 (Thorn) Albedo #2 (Usagi Yojimbo) Betty & Veronica #320 (Cheryl Blossom) Goon #1 (Avatar) Hillbilly #1 Copra #1-6 Cerebus #1 Love & Rockets #1 (Self published) Strangers in Paradise #1 Comico Primer #2 (1st Grendel) TMNT #1 (1st or 2nd print) 30 days of night #1 Visions #1 (Flaming Carrot) - still searching, any leads are appreciated How about Caliber Presents 1, The crow 1-4 , a Caliber Christmas. On your 30 Days of Night #1, do you mean the bound version with only 50 produced? ___ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comiconxion Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Not sure how rare many of these are in high-grade, but they all have low print runs and were somewhat "hot" independent books at one point in time: Gobbledygook #1 & 2 (1st Fugitoid & TMNT Ad) - although these can't be graded by CGC. Other "lesser keys" to consider: - Fish Police #1 - Megaton Explosion #1 (1st Youngblood) - Fantasy Quarterly #1 (1st Elfquest) - Nexus #1 Magazine (Signed & #/d to 500) - Dime Press #1, Next Men #21 or SDCC #2 (Whichever you consider the 1st Hellboy) - Thundermace #1 (2-Color Cover - 1st Chakran the Forever Man) - Realm #4 (1st Deadworld) - Harbinger #0 (Mail-in version) - Tick Special Edition #1 - Tick #2 uncut cover version - Tick #12 - All 4 different no logo variants - Adventurers #1 Skeleton Cover - Quadrant #1 - Raw #1 (May be too big to CGC) - Funny Animals #1 (1st Maus) - Huzzah #1 (Fanzine - 1st App. Erma Felna) - Albedo #0 (White with Yellow Table - 50 copies) - Power Comics #1 (1st Sim Aardvark) - TMNT #3 NYC Variant - Gold Turtlemania - Eagle #1 Special Edition (Signed & #'d) - Rare, but not super expensive or important - Dark Horse Presents #1 (1st Concrete) - Comico Primer #5 (1st Maxx) - Colt #2 1st Printing (with TMNT Pin-up - only 3,000 copies) Hopefully, there's at least 1 or 2 that may be appealing to go after from the list above. ___ and Aweandlorder 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comiconxion Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 12 hours ago, FlyingDonut said: Was published as a college project by the artists shown. I bought it from David Peterson and Jeremy Bastian who auctioned it off at the Baltimore Comic Con. They said this was their first published work together. Similarly, I believe there was a Thorn book that reprinted Jeff Smith's Bone strips from college that pre-dated Bone #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aweandlorder Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 2 hours ago, comiconxion said: Not sure how rare many of these are in high-grade, but they all have low print runs and were somewhat "hot" independent books at one point in time: Gobbledygook #1 & 2 (1st Fugitoid & TMNT Ad) - although these can't be graded by CGC. Other "lesser keys" to consider: - Fish Police #1 - Megaton Explosion #1 (1st Youngblood) - Fantasy Quarterly #1 (1st Elfquest) - Nexus #1 Magazine (Signed & #/d to 500) - Dime Press #1, Next Men #21 or SDCC #2 (Whichever you consider the 1st Hellboy) - Thundermace #1 (2-Color Cover - 1st Chakran the Forever Man) - Realm #4 (1st Deadworld) - Harbinger #0 (Mail-in version) - Tick Special Edition #1 - Tick #2 uncut cover version - Tick #12 - All 4 different no logo variants - Adventurers #1 Skeleton Cover - Quadrant #1 - Raw #1 (May be too big to CGC) - Funny Animals #1 (1st Maus) - Huzzah #1 (Fanzine - 1st App. Erma Felna) - Albedo #0 (White with Yellow Table - 50 copies) - Power Comics #1 (1st Sim Aardvark) - TMNT #3 NYC Variant - Gold Turtlemania - Eagle #1 Special Edition (Signed & #'d) - Rare, but not super expensive or important - Dark Horse Presents #1 (1st Concrete) - Comico Primer #5 (1st Maxx) - Colt #2 1st Printing (with TMNT Pin-up - only 3,000 copies) Hopefully, there's at least 1 or 2 that may be appealing to go after from the list above. Ill add Elfquest #1 (1st print 1.00 cover), much harder to find than FQ#1, even though it mainly consists of reprinted material Vootie #9 (1st Omaha in comic form. Fanzine print run 65) Shadis #2 - 1st Knights of the Dinner Table Atomtan - 1st Tank Girl in poster Deadline #1 - 1st Tank Girl in comic form... BTW.. Book is SCORCHING hot now more to come.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aweandlorder Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, comiconxion said: Not sure how rare many of these are in high-grade, but they all have low print runs and were somewhat "hot" independent books at one point in time: Gobbledygook #1 & 2 (1st Fugitoid & TMNT Ad) - although these can't be graded by CGC. Other "lesser keys" to consider: - Fish Police #1 - Megaton Explosion #1 (1st Youngblood) - Fantasy Quarterly #1 (1st Elfquest) - Nexus #1 Magazine (Signed & #/d to 500) - Dime Press #1, Next Men #21 or SDCC #2 (Whichever you consider the 1st Hellboy) - Thundermace #1 (2-Color Cover - 1st Chakran the Forever Man) - Realm #4 (1st Deadworld) - Harbinger #0 (Mail-in version) - Tick Special Edition #1 - Tick #2 uncut cover version - Tick #12 - All 4 different no logo variants - Adventurers #1 Skeleton Cover - Quadrant #1 - Raw #1 (May be too big to CGC) - Funny Animals #1 (1st Maus) - Huzzah #1 (Fanzine - 1st App. Erma Felna) - Albedo #0 (White with Yellow Table - 50 copies) - Power Comics #1 (1st Sim Aardvark) - TMNT #3 NYC Variant - Gold Turtlemania - Eagle #1 Special Edition (Signed & #'d) - Rare, but not super expensive or important - Dark Horse Presents #1 (1st Concrete) - Comico Primer #5 (1st Maxx) - Colt #2 1st Printing (with TMNT Pin-up - only 3,000 copies) Hopefully, there's at least 1 or 2 that may be appealing to go after from the list above. And btw this list is EPIC and hard to beat Edited February 11, 2018 by Aweandlorder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickwire Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 hmmmm.. maus the raw mag inserts, macross, my mind is blanking but the mags that predated elflord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the blob Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Ok,but a lot of these are not rare per se. Betty and veronica 320 probably had a print-run in the vicinity of many marvel books. DHP 1 is not rare. So if we are not looking at 2,000 and less print run books... Mangazine 11 - 1st gold digger. Deathzone by the copra guy, his first work, was 300 or 500 copies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Transplant Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Vortex #3 - First Mr. X. ___ and Aweandlorder 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
___ Posted February 13, 2018 Author Share Posted February 13, 2018 great contributions, some books I have never heard of and even too indie for my taste which is hard to believe but great education here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpaqu1 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Silverwolf Bulletin #2 - 1st Grips and 1st Ron Lim story art, print run of about 125 ___ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mschmidt Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 On 2/11/2018 at 8:42 PM, comiconxion said: Similarly, I believe there was a Thorn book that reprinted Jeff Smith's Bone strips from college that pre-dated Bone #1. It's called Thorn: Tales from the Lantern - was published while Smith was still at college by the Ohio State University Press (and only available there). Of all the books mentioned in this thread, it's probably in the top 5 when it comes to rarity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimebuster Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 On 2/13/2018 at 9:15 AM, the blob said: Ok,but a lot of these are not rare per se. Betty and veronica 320 probably had a print-run in the vicinity of many marvel books. Well, he did also say "hard to find in high grade," which applies. B&V was distributed via newsstand to an audience that was mostly kid readers and not comic collectors. It's much harder to find in grade than superhero books from the same period. Also, the print run wasn't that high. Books from this era of Archie are relatively scarce in general as the title was probably only selling around 50-60k copies at this point, compared to an average Marvel book doing 100-150k. But your larger point is correct, it's not as rare per se than some of these books with super small indy print runs. ___ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the blob Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 4 hours ago, Crimebuster said: Well, he did also say "hard to find in high grade," which applies. B&V was distributed via newsstand to an audience that was mostly kid readers and not comic collectors. It's much harder to find in grade than superhero books from the same period. Also, the print run wasn't that high. Books from this era of Archie are relatively scarce in general as the title was probably only selling around 50-60k copies at this point, compared to an average Marvel book doing 100-150k. But your larger point is correct, it's not as rare per se than some of these books with super small indy print runs. The print runs were maybe 2x that. I don't know where tge archie newsstand returns went. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the blob Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Print run was around 244,000, sales were around 87,000. Where the 160k unsold copies went, i dunno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
