Sentral Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Hello All, Would everyone be so kind as to tell me in your opinion if this is the fake or real Cerebus 1? Thanks https://imgur.com/a/CSyd3 Pictures on Imgur, thanks Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murphman13 Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 study it for yourself. Here is a guide http://www.cerebusfangirl.com/counterfeit.php ygogolak 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sentral Posted February 13, 2018 Author Share Posted February 13, 2018 I think based on the fact that mine has the red boarder outline around the soldier in the bottom right, that mine is the counterfeit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Sinescu Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 This thread will help with identifying it. Look for the post by Stronguy with the spoiler tags, I used this recently to compare with an original I have and his pictures were very helpful. ygogolak 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aman619 Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Simplest test: if the inside of the covers are glossy, they are counterfeit. Dave printed as cheaply as he could. The counterfeiters had access to cover stock gllossy on both sides, and never noticed their error. RockMyAmadeus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mschmidt Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Easy - it's a counterfeit streyouttacomics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stronguy Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 It's counterfeit. If you've never seen the inside cover of a real one it can sometimes be hard to tell. One man's glossy is another man's flat. The best indication is to look at the dragon splash. If Cerebus is black it's a counterfeit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockMyAmadeus Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, Stronguy said: One man's glossy is another man's flat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domuhnator Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Counterfeit for sure, I Think the easiest way to tell is to look at the S at the end of Cerebus and the $1. the S and $1 on the real ones are never fully printed on. The $1 should have ink missing on the bottom right corner. The Bottom of the S should not be complete either. See how the S is pretty much complete on the fake one? On the real there is a lack of white ink on the bottom. Same with the $1. Bottom right corner should be missing. Iv Double checked every real and fake copy I have seen and so far it holds true. GM8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domuhnator Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 6 minutes ago, RockMyAmadeus said: Its true Especially with a lower grade book. Gloss fades on all books. Iv seen real ones that haven't looked glossy. You can tell if you have a real and fake side by side. But a low grade counterfeit in the wild is tough unless you use the other methods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockMyAmadeus Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, domuhnator said: Its true Especially with a lower grade book. Gloss fades on all books. Iv seen real ones that haven't looked glossy. You can tell if you have a real and fake side by side. But a low grade counterfeit in the wild is tough unless you use the other methods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockMyAmadeus Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 (edited) 51 minutes ago, domuhnator said: Gloss fades on all books. No. Edited February 13, 2018 by RockMyAmadeus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domuhnator Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 11 minutes ago, RockMyAmadeus said: No. Agree to disagree, All color/gloss can and will fade if not properly stored. Like I said SIDE BY SIDE its easy to tell. Im not saying there is no difference, all im saying is Single book in the wild you start to second guess yourself unless you have seen a boatload of them. Thats why I dont think you should go just by Gloss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Sinescu Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 2 hours ago, Stronguy said: It's counterfeit. If you've never seen the inside cover of a real one it can sometimes be hard to tell. One man's glossy is another man's flat. The best indication is to look at the dragon splash. If Cerebus is black it's a counterfeit. Yup, that was the easiest way for me to tell. Nothing really subjective to that part. Stronguy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockMyAmadeus Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 40 minutes ago, domuhnator said: Agree to disagree, All color/gloss can and will fade if not properly stored. Like I said SIDE BY SIDE its easy to tell. Im not saying there is no difference, all im saying is Single book in the wild you start to second guess yourself unless you have seen a boatload of them. Thats why I dont think you should go just by Gloss. No. Gloss does not "fade." It can be worn, but wearing the inside front cover's gloss off is going to be fairly uncommon (understatement.) See the reflection of the light in the above picture? If the interior front cover reflects light, as in the picture above, it is counterfeit. If one has even a little experience with these books, they do not need a "side by side" comparison to tell the difference. It is glaringly (pun unintended) obvious, and an instant giveaway. No obscure art "tells", which aren't consistent anyways, necessary. If further help is necessary, compare a typical Direct market copy of Spawn below #100 to a standard Marvel book from 1994 (say, GI Joe #150), and you'll get an idea of the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlowUpTheMoon Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 13 minutes ago, RockMyAmadeus said: It is glaringly (pun unintended) obvious, and an instant giveaway. I think that was a glowing example of an intended pun. RockMyAmadeus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domuhnator Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 8 minutes ago, RockMyAmadeus said: No. Gloss does not "fade." It can be worn, but wearing the inside front cover's gloss off is going to be fairly uncommon (understatement.) See the reflection of the light in the above picture? If the interior front cover reflects light, as in the picture above, it is counterfeit. If one has even a little experience with these books, they do not need a "side by side" comparison to tell the difference. It is glaringly (pun unintended) obvious, and an instant giveaway. No obscure art "tells", which aren't consistent anyways, necessary. If further help is necessary, compare a typical Direct market copy of Spawn below #100 to a standard Marvel book from 1994 (say, GI Joe #150), and you'll get an idea of the difference. If you say so. I don't really feel like arguing about it. Well then Maybe its just me. But wherever I see a Cerebus 1 I always struggle When Looking at the "Glossyness". Not to mention you actually have to have the book in hand or an interior pic. Not saying your wrong. I just like other methods better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockMyAmadeus Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 I thought of a better example,,which would be the inside front covers of Batman: The Dark Knight #1-4. If the "finish" (for lack of a better term) looks like a cover of Spawn, it's a counterfeit. If it looks like the inside front covers of DK, it's real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CKB Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 47 minutes ago, RockMyAmadeus said: I thought of a better example,,which would be the inside front covers of Batman: The Dark Knight #1-4. If the "finish" (for lack of a better term) looks like a cover of Spawn, it's a counterfeit. If it looks like the inside front covers of DK, it's real. Who would counterfeit DK 1-4?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stronguy Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 2 hours ago, RockMyAmadeus said: No. Right, RMA. Once you see them side by side it's obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...