Aliens Posted April 27, 2018 Posted April 27, 2018 hey guys i know that tape leaves a nasty residue and yellowing onto comics after sitting for a while on the book, but what if you get a book graded, or what if CGC nots "tape on spine of cover" or "tape on centerfold" can this tape still affect the book even when graded and if so how can you stop it from happening thanks
Bomber-Bob Posted April 28, 2018 Posted April 28, 2018 3 hours ago, Aliens said: hey guys i know that tape leaves a nasty residue and yellowing onto comics after sitting for a while on the book, but what if you get a book graded, or what if CGC nots "tape on spine of cover" or "tape on centerfold" can this tape still affect the book even when graded and if so how can you stop it from happening thanks Usually, the tape is there to cover up a flaw, seal a spine split or tear, attach a cover or centerfold, etc. CGC will see the flaw that the tape is attempting to hide and grade it with the flaw. As you stated, the tape, even if removed, will leave a residue or discoloration that will negatively affect the grade, sometimes big time. So basically, yes, the presence of tape will hurt the grade. Not sure what you mean by how can you stop 'it' from happening. What is 'it' ? Personally, I avoid any books with tape.
James J Johnson Posted April 28, 2018 Posted April 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Bomber-Bob said: Usually, the tape is there to cover up a flaw, seal a spine split or tear, attach a cover or centerfold, etc. CGC will see the flaw that the tape is attempting to hide and grade it with the flaw. As you stated, the tape, even if removed, will leave a residue or discoloration that will negatively affect the grade, sometimes big time. So basically, yes, the presence of tape will hurt the grade. Not sure what you mean by how can you stop 'it' from happening. What is 'it' ? Personally, I avoid any books with tape. 8.5 Universal is the highest CGC graded instance I've ever seen for an early Bronze age book with inside cover tape. It looked to be at least 9.4 through the plastic.
Philflound Posted May 1, 2018 Posted May 1, 2018 Depends on the size of the tape. Not all tape hides flaws, that's definitely not true. Sometimes a piece of tape accidentally sticks to the cover and owner decides to leave it instead of pulling it off and leaving a tape pull. Yes, most tape is used to seal tears. Tape detracts slightly or greatly from the grade if there was no tape, depending on the size again. Very small probably won't affect anything, especially if it's in lower grade. An entire spine taped, even if not completely split will drop a grade much more. Sometimes it's better if the tape has dried and come off and leaves just a stain/residue.
The Lions Den Posted May 6, 2018 Posted May 6, 2018 On 4/30/2018 at 9:34 PM, Philflound said: Depends on the size of the tape. Not all tape hides flaws, that's definitely not true. Sometimes a piece of tape accidentally sticks to the cover and owner decides to leave it instead of pulling it off and leaving a tape pull. Yes, most tape is used to seal tears. Tape detracts slightly or greatly from the grade if there was no tape, depending on the size again. Very small probably won't affect anything, especially if it's in lower grade. An entire spine taped, even if not completely split will drop a grade much more. Sometimes it's better if the tape has dried and come off and leaves just a stain/residue. ...and I've seen cases where someone taped the entire spine just to "prevent it from splitting..."
Philflound Posted May 6, 2018 Posted May 6, 2018 Think the most tape I've ever seen is when I had my store over 20 years ago. Someone came in with an Avengers #1. The entire front was covered with strip after strip of scotch tape going from top to bottom. Not one spot was uncovered. Guy said he wanted to preserve it. Well, he did for a time. At least until it dries up and falls off.
The Lions Den Posted May 6, 2018 Posted May 6, 2018 1 hour ago, Philflound said: Think the most tape I've ever seen is when I had my store over 20 years ago. Someone came in with an Avengers #1. The entire front was covered with strip after strip of scotch tape going from top to bottom. Not one spot was uncovered. Guy said he wanted to preserve it. Well, he did for a time. At least until it dries up and falls off. !!!
James J Johnson Posted May 7, 2018 Posted May 7, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, The Lions Den said: ...and I've seen cases where someone taped the entire spine just to "prevent it from splitting..." 5 hours ago, The Lions Den said: !!! An early comic and book dealer from the 40s and 50s, one of the pioneers of the comic hobby from the sales standpoint, used to put masking tape on the spines, needed or not, as a split preventive measure! I'm not sure if it was the artist/writer Capt, Biljo White. That name sticks out in my mind in respect to that. On all, or the majority of the books he re-sold, for a penny, nickel, or dime, he taped the spines. I remember seeing a picture of the Biljo/White Action 1 that he taped up. Looked real nice, except for the masking taped spine. . Edited May 7, 2018 by James J Johnson
walclark Posted May 7, 2018 Posted May 7, 2018 6 hours ago, James J Johnson said: An early comic and book dealer from the 40s and 50s, one of the pioneers of the comic hobby from the sales standpoint, used to put masking tape on the spines, needed or not, as a split preventive measure! I'm not sure if it was the artist/writer Capt, Biljo White. That name sticks out in my mind in respect to that. On all, or the majority of the books he re-sold, for a penny, nickel, or dime, he taped the spines. I remember seeing a picture of the Biljo/White Action 1 that he taped up. Looked real nice, except for the masking taped spine. . Pop Hollinger.
The Lions Den Posted May 7, 2018 Posted May 7, 2018 9 hours ago, James J Johnson said: An early comic and book dealer from the 40s and 50s, one of the pioneers of the comic hobby from the sales standpoint, used to put masking tape on the spines, needed or not, as a split preventive measure! I'm not sure if it was the artist/writer Capt, Biljo White. That name sticks out in my mind in respect to that. On all, or the majority of the books he re-sold, for a penny, nickel, or dime, he taped the spines. I remember seeing a picture of the Biljo/White Action 1 that he taped up. Looked real nice, except for the masking taped spine. . To quote an old EC phrase: "Good Lord!"
James J Johnson Posted May 7, 2018 Posted May 7, 2018 5 hours ago, walclark said: Pop Hollinger. That's him! Thank you. Pop taped everything as a "preventive measure" against "wear", by applying masking tape to the spines, and sometimes the edges, inside and out.
Dino-Mutt Posted June 25, 2018 Posted June 25, 2018 That's gonna leave a mark! Please folks, DON'T try this at home!! The Lions Den and Hero Restoration 2
marvelmaniac Posted June 25, 2018 Posted June 25, 2018 I have used tape numerous times on early books that are a .5 Poor or 1.0 Fair (All Raw) to keep them from falling apart even more when handled. Tape is not going to affect a book in this grade and I personally have no issue with it.
The Lions Den Posted June 25, 2018 Posted June 25, 2018 (edited) Me when I see tape on a book... Edited June 25, 2018 by The Lions Den Hero Restoration 1
Hero Restoration Posted June 26, 2018 Posted June 26, 2018 14 hours ago, marvelmaniac said: I have used tape numerous times on early books that are a .5 Poor or 1.0 Fair (All Raw) to keep them from falling apart even more when handled. Tape is not going to affect a book in this grade and I personally have no issue with it. Tape is bad, no exceptions!
Hero Restoration Posted June 26, 2018 Posted June 26, 2018 14 hours ago, Callaway29 said: Never owned a book with tape...never will. That's wisdom !
Hero Restoration Posted June 26, 2018 Posted June 26, 2018 14 hours ago, marvelmaniac said: I have used tape numerous times on early books that are a .5 Poor or 1.0 Fair (All Raw) to keep them from falling apart even more when handled. Tape is not going to affect a book in this grade and I personally have no issue with it. Shame on you! Tape erodes paper!
doright-804 Posted June 14, 2022 Posted June 14, 2022 An article posted by CGC from 2013 says that tape will not affect the value of a book as long as it serves a function, ex. protects a spine split from getting larger.
