Rhig Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 (edited) Hello, all! I'm starting to put together a group of comics that I would like to have in toploaders. I have the comics currently stored inside Standard Mylites 2 with Standard Full Backs. They are mostly Bronze and Modern Age comics. My question is, what size toploader would I need to be able to fit this comic and board combo in? If I have to remove the board from the bag, and just slide the comic with the Mylite in the toploader, that's fine by me. Thanks for any and all help. Edited May 29, 2018 by Rhig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Rodriguez Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 15 hours ago, Rhig said: Hello, all! I'm starting to put together a group of comics that I would like to have in toploaders. I have the comics currently stored inside Standard Mylites 2 with Standard Full Backs. They are mostly Bronze and Modern Age comics. My question is, what size toploader would I need to be able to fit this comic and board combo in? If I have to remove the board from the bag, and just slide the comic with the Mylite in the toploader, that's fine by me. Thanks for any and all help. I would try Magazine size top loaders they are bigger than modern top loaders you shouldn't have a problem. Hope this helps. Rhig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhig Posted May 29, 2018 Author Share Posted May 29, 2018 6 hours ago, Eddie Rodriguez said: I would try Magazine size top loaders they are bigger than modern top loaders you shouldn't have a problem. Hope this helps. I was thinking that size myself, but I thought that they might be a bit too large. As I said a great portion of my comics are Copper, Bronze and Modern. I was thinking perhaps Silver Age toploaders, but wasn't sure which brands are good for what I'm looking to do. Thank you a lot for the suggestion, Eddie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Readcomix Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Check out the e Gerber website. They have dimensions for all their products listed, including the mylites2's. Rhig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Pontoon Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 You may also find this thread useful: Rhig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakman29 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 I use Magazine toploaders for all my books. BAT MAN and Rhig 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAT MAN Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Moderns and CA comics in standard 725M2 bag fit perfectly into Golden TL size as well. Are you putting BAs in standard too? If you step up to 775M2s than as Eddie alluded to you Mag TLs would be your only option. Either way whatever TL or brand you look at just make sure the inner dimensions of the TL are slightly more i.e. 725M2's are 7 1/4" , a typical Golden TL would accommodate 7 11/16" Once last consideration is whether or not you want to use HBs or FBs since depending on the gauge of the TL, thickness of the comics ,etc. you would not want to smoosh a comic in there. Most likely not an issue with mounting CA or Modern comics, but definitely applicable for early BA and especially DCs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAT MAN Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 49 minutes ago, oakman29 said: I use Magazine toploaders for all my books. Cool thing about Mag TLs is you are future proofing your entire collection. Everything will line up perfectly and you can go bigger on the boards too with piece of mind. Rhig and oakman29 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhig Posted May 30, 2018 Author Share Posted May 30, 2018 1 hour ago, DC|Marvel said: Moderns and CA comics in standard 725M2 bag fit perfectly into Golden TL size as well. Are you putting BAs in standard too? If you step up to 775M2s than as Eddie alluded to you Mag TLs would be your only option. Either way whatever TL or brand you look at just make sure the inner dimensions of the TL are slightly more i.e. 725M2's are 7 1/4" , a typical Golden TL would accommodate 7 11/16" Once last consideration is whether or not you want to use HBs or FBs since depending on the gauge of the TL, thickness of the comics ,etc. you would not want to smoosh a comic in there. Most likely not an issue with mounting CA or Modern comics, but definitely applicable for early BA and especially DCs. This has definitely answered everything I was thinking of. I recently bought 725M2's and 700FB's so I could start to re-bag and board everything I have in my collection. I just got tired of the regular bag and boards that you can basically get for free at your local comic shop. They just look awful after a while, and since I've invested a lot of time and $$ into this, I think the collection deserves and upgrade so to speak. I saw a video where a guy took the 725M2's and then just placed the comic inside a TL, sans the 700FB. That actually looked pretty good to me, but I never heard what TL size he was using. I must admit seeing the back of the comic was quite nice, but I would prefer placing both the 725M2's and the 700FB's in a TL. The VERY few Silver Age comics that I own, I figure I can just go up one size from the 725M2's and 700FB's for the re-bagging of them. 95% of the comics I own are from 1970-2018, and your suggestion of using the Golden TL for the vast majority of my collection seems to be the way to go. I'm glad that I didn't buy any of the Silver Age TL's, as it seems to me that it would have been a waste of money. I'm brand new to this CGC community, and I have to thank everyone for ALL the help that was provided so quickly and intelligently. I hope I can return the favor to anyone needing help! oakman29 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhig Posted May 30, 2018 Author Share Posted May 30, 2018 2 hours ago, oakman29 said: I use Magazine toploaders for all my books. That looks amazing! oakman29 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgrumble Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Here's a previous thread about Mylite2 sleeves and which top loaders to use: The 725M2/700FB combo will fit into top loaders sold by @HOTFLIPS Rhig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artboy99 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 (edited) I think your needs would be met by using the golden age sized top loaders over the magazine sized. The golden age ones fit inside a magazine box. Here is a pic of some of my Planet Comics in golden age top loaders in my spinner rack Edited May 30, 2018 by Artboy99 Rhig, SilverSniper, BAT MAN and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExNihilo Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 38 minutes ago, Artboy99 said: I think your needs would be met by using the golden age sized top loaders over the magazine sized. The golden age ones fit inside a magazine box. Here is a pic of some of my Planet Comics in golden age top loaders in my spinner rack @ Pontoon, @oakman29 I took the advice of that "Visual Guide to Mylar sizes" thread and went the combo route (Mylite2 + Archive Combo). This post has now got me thinking, is there any added benefit to potentially sliding the combo into a top loader (ie Mylife2 + Archive + Top loader)? Or does that strike you as overkill? The extra rigidity provided by the top loader certainly seems ideal but i'm not sure if all of that, plus a full back board would get squished in a top loader. Rhig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artboy99 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, ExNihilo said: @ Pontoon, @oakman29 I took the advice of that "Visual Guide to Mylar sizes" thread and went the combo route (Mylite2 + Archive Combo). This post has now got me thinking, is there any added benefit to potentially sliding the combo into a top loader (ie Mylife2 + Archive + Top loader)? Or does that strike you as overkill? The extra rigidity provided by the top loader certainly seems ideal but i'm not sure if all of that, plus a full back board would get squished in a top loader. depends what you are trying to do. I put books into top loaders when I am displaying them in a way that could possibly get damaged. The picture I posted is an example: I put my Planets into top loaders so that I could put them into my spinner rack to prevent them from getting damaged. I also use top loaders to display comics that I put flat on the table at comic shows I attend as a vendor. This helps preserve the books from people that place items on the books, lean on the books, etc. if the books are just going to sit in your boxes top loaders are over kill. BAT MAN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExNihilo Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Artboy99 said: depends what you are trying to do. I put books into top loaders when I am displaying them in a way that could possibly get damaged. The picture I posted is an example: I put my Planets into top loaders so that I could put them into my spinner rack to prevent them from getting damaged. I also use top loaders to display comics that I put flat on the table at comic shows I attend as a vendor. This helps preserve the books from people that place items on the books, lean on the books, etc. if the books are just going to sit in your boxes top loaders are over kill. The books are in a bookshelf/cabinet interspersed with my regularly bagged/boarded books (so really no different than if they were in a box, the bookshelf just presents nicer). However, the archived mylar bags are wider than a regular bag so it's not flush with the rest of the books. ie, the spine of the book isn't flush with the other books on the shelf. My concern is that the pressure of the surrounding books might "press" everything but the spine. I suppose if that were a serious concern, it would mean that i've packed too many books on the shelf. But I guess I thought the toploader would provide additional rigidity/protection so that the same amount of pressure is applied to every square inch of the book instead of more applied to one half versus the other. (not sure if that description makes sense.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artboy99 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 21 minutes ago, ExNihilo said: The books are in a bookshelf/cabinet interspersed with my regularly bagged/boarded books (so really no different than if they were in a box, the bookshelf just presents nicer). However, the archived mylar bags are wider than a regular bag so it's not flush with the rest of the books. ie, the spine of the book isn't flush with the other books on the shelf. My concern is that the pressure of the surrounding books might "press" everything but the spine. I suppose if that were a serious concern, it would mean that i've packed too many books on the shelf. But I guess I thought the toploader would provide additional rigidity/protection so that the same amount of pressure is applied to every square inch of the book instead of more applied to one half versus the other. (not sure if that description makes sense.) well if the cost is of no real concern then the top loaders add some structure and will keep the books in great shape on your shelf. Rhig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakman29 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 1 hour ago, ExNihilo said: @ Pontoon, @oakman29 I took the advice of that "Visual Guide to Mylar sizes" thread and went the combo route (Mylite2 + Archive Combo). This post has now got me thinking, is there any added benefit to potentially sliding the combo into a top loader (ie Mylife2 + Archive + Top loader)? Or does that strike you as overkill? The extra rigidity provided by the top loader certainly seems ideal but i'm not sure if all of that, plus a full back board would get squished in a top loader. That's the formula I use. Mylar , full back , and magazine top loader. BAT MAN and Rhig 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakman29 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 4 hours ago, Artboy99 said: I think your needs would be met by using the golden age sized top loaders over the magazine sized. The golden age ones fit inside a magazine box. Here is a pic of some of my Planet Comics in golden age top loaders in my spinner rack That is impressive. Rhig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artboy99 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 14 minutes ago, oakman29 said: That is impressive. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAT MAN Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 In light of this thread, there is one particular configuration I have not tried that has made me very curious now. Comic in M2 bag in top loader with closure clip. When you seal off that top/fourth side it truly has a slab like effect making the TL extremely rigid and stiff. Would be just interested to see how this feels, viewing the back cover of the comic etc. I will do this with pics and post it in my journal. I recently was clearing out storage and completely forgot about a near full run of New Mutants raw I had stashed away so looking to come up with a reasonable formula from a cost basis perspective. Another configuration I wanted to try was two full back boards with M2 bag and comic as well. Cheers to OP and everyone and thanks for the pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
