Please grade my Silver Surfer 4....

[october]

Got this in today, my "big" purchase of the summer. It arrived a bit nicer than I though it would.

 

No creases or chips on the back, that's just a bit of soiling. Front has a tiny bit of color loss along the spine to the left of the "C and "G" in "Comics Group". Everything else is pretty clear. Pages are OW-OW/W. Let me know what you think....

 

 

[Inhuman Fiend]

7.5...very nice book.

But what are those light spots across the bottom edge...?

[divad]

Pages are OW-OW/W.

 

Do you have "commitment issues"?

 

Looks pretty nice

[divad]

7.5...very nice book.

But what are those light spots across the bottom edge...?

 

Those are printer marks, often they are actually holes, or "spurs"

[october]

Pages are OW-OW/W.

 

Do you have "commitment issues"?

 

Not familiar with the nuances of PQ. I know it's better than CR/OW and not W, so there we are.

[Aces]

Looks vf-nm except the top...

 

Lower VF range: 7.0-8.0

[Jeffreykli]

Nice book, I'd say 7.5.

[divad]

Nice book, I'd say 7.5.

 

7 noticeable defects plus dirt . . . I'd go along with the 7.5

[october]

Just out of curiousity, what are you guys seeing to knock it below 8.0? The top edge halo creases? General wear? I would be inclined to say 8.0 in hand, after looking at the SS 1 pictured in the OSGG that got an 8.0 (pg 208 for those that have it). Same soiling, similar amounts of edge stress, and a dinged corner.

[divad]

 

 

Ok, here you go:

 

1) Light crescent crease TE left;

2) Staple rubs FC;

3) Color loss at spine near CG in price block;

4) Minute tear, with associated crease LE BR FC;

5) Printers marks along BE FC

6) 1/8" corner crease LR FC

7) Tiny tear TE BC;

8) VL wear UL BC

 

Clean up the dirt, and you may have a solid 8.0

[october]

 

Ok, here you go:

 

1) Light crescent crease TE left;

2) Staple rubs FC;

3) Color loss at spine near CG in price block;

4) Minute tear, with associated crease LE BR FC;

5) Printers marks along BE FC

6) 1/8" corner crease LR FC

7) Tiny tear TE BC;

8) VL wear UL BC

 

Clean up the dirt, and you may have a solid 8.0

 

Thanks.

 

2) Does CGC take off for this? It's so common on squarebounds it's almost like a printing defect.

 

4) Good eye.

 

7) Looks like a little tear, but it's only a tiny ding.

[divad]

Both the staple rubs and the printers marks are arguably, to some extent, production defects. But they don't occur on every book, so they are deductions (whether they are listed in the graders' notes or not).

 

My ASM #121 (easily a 9.4, if not a 9.6) was taken down to an 8.5 due to printer spurs

 

It's a very nice copy, I'd be pleased to have it in my collection

[october]

Both the staple rubs and the printers marks are arguably, to some extent, production defects. But they don't occur on every book, so they are deductions (whether they are listed in the graders' notes or not).

 

True, though nutsac creases and miswraps aren't on every book either. Then again, every squarebound is stapled in the same manner, so if there is color rubbing on one, and not the other, it would be due to something other than the production process and a defect.

 

My ASM #121 (easily a 9.4, if not a 9.6) was taken down to an 8.5 due to printer spurs

 

I remember that book, it was a sweet copy with nice canary yellow cover inks. Personally, I can understand CGC taking off for those (they were small tears and not just marks right?) but definitely not down to an 8.5. If hideous miswraps and GA printing chips aren't hammered, printer spurs shouldn't be either. Seems inconsistent. Maybe it's just BA (late SA) prejudice.

[Jeffreykli]

Both the staple rubs and the printers marks are arguably, to some extent, production defects. But they don't occur on every book, so they are deductions (whether they are listed in the graders' notes or not).

 

My ASM #121 (easily a 9.4, if not a 9.6) was taken down to an 8.5 due to printer spurs

 

It's a very nice copy, I'd be pleased to have it in my collection

 

I agree with Diva. Since the printers marks don't appear on every book, I'd downgrade the book because of them. Also, it's hard to see how affected the spine is, near the Marvel Comics Group box. If a piece is starting to come off of the spine, which is common with these squarebounds, then the grade will drop as well. But, if you clean the back, it'll present very nicely.

[PedigreeMan]

5.0® Amateur color touch.

 

Oh, wait ... wrong copy of Silver Surfer.

[october]

5.0® Amateur color touch.

 

Oh, wait ... wrong copy of Silver Surfer.

 

[divad]

Both the staple rubs and the printers marks are arguably, to some extent, production defects. But they don't occur on every book, so they are deductions (whether they are listed in the graders' notes or not).

 

True, though nutsac creases and miswraps aren't on every book either. Then again, every squarebound is stapled in the same manner, so if there is color rubbing on one, and not the other, it would be due to something other than the production process and a defect.

 

My ASM #121 (easily a 9.4, if not a 9.6) was taken down to an 8.5 due to printer spurs

 

I remember that book, it was a sweet copy with nice canary yellow cover inks. Personally, I can understand CGC taking off for those (they were small tears and not just marks right?) but definitely not down to an 8.5. If hideous miswraps and GA printing chips aren't hammered, printer spurs shouldn't be either. Seems inconsistent. Maybe it's just BA (late SA) prejudice.

 

Exactly my feelings on both points, and yes, they were tiny holes. Thank goodness, I found a buyer who agreed with me, and paid full value for the book.

[october]

You got full 8.5 guide? I have to hand it to you, I am impressed by the prices you realize. I always say "no freaking way" and I am generally proven wrong.

[divad]

You got full 8.5 guide? I have to hand it to you, I am impressed by the prices you realize. I always say "no freaking way" and I am generally proven wrong.

 

Actually no, I think I set a GPA record for 9.2 Guide on the book (but I'd have to check).

 

I've found that if you give collectors (with money) who want a particular book, the unfettered opportunity to purchase a high grade book, with full disclosure and guarantee of satisfaction, they will quite often just pull the trigger. And, be quite pleased with their purchase.

 

[october]

You got full 8.5 guide? I have to hand it to you, I am impressed by the prices you realize. I always say "no freaking way" and I am generally proven wrong.

 

Actually no, I think I set a GPA record for 9.2 Guide on the book (but I'd have to check).

 

I've found that if you give collectors (with money) who want a particular book, the unfettered opportunity to purchase a high grade book, with full disclosure and guarantee of satisfaction, they will quite often just pull the trigger. And, be quite pleased with their purchase.

 

 

You set the GPA record for 9.2 with an 8.5?!? You take consignments?