Please grade my tanned Archie 65 0

[Bird]

I just couldn't pass this one up. How harsh with the tanning/foxing hit the grade? After press the spine roll should improve so if you want to give before and after guesses I would like that as well. That is not a tear on the back cover, just discoloration. Only gpa is a 7.0 so not much help there but I would be slabbing it for the presentation.

 

"The Mirth of a Nation"

 

 

 

 

Edited November 26, 2018 by Bird

[jcjames]

Are there some areas of spine-splits? Can't tell from pics. 

Spine/staple wear, edge-chipping and tanning can't be improved so best after a good press is (without seeing the final product) 3.5

 

 

[Bird]

no spine splits. Thanks for the opinion.

[Patriot6]

38 minutes ago, Bird said:

no spine splits. Thanks for the opinion.

 

It is my personal opinion that this book should not be slabbed. It would be very easy to find a nicer copy worth slabbing that won't break the ol' bank.

Great reader though!

[faster friends]

3.5 before and 4.0/4.5 after

[Bird]

1 hour ago, Patriot6 said:

 

It is my personal opinion that this book should not be slabbed. It would be very easy to find a nicer copy worth slabbing that won't break the ol' bank.

Great reader though!

Thanks. I am new to these older books so knowing that helps. But I still like getting the grade opinions as they help me with my own grading so  so much.

I thought it might get to 5.0 so that shows how off I am. Not too far, but not too close either!

[Gnasher]

How secure are the staples? Any brittleness of pages, or cover, Bird?

 

[Bird]

1 hour ago, Gnasher said:

How secure are the staples? Any brittleness of pages, or cover, Bird?

 

Not brittle at all. The staples are fully attached. I added apicture of the spine to the first post, it is intact all the way. Looks like a book that just sat there unbagged forever.

[Gnasher]

I reckon 4.0 for sure after the press. 

[Westy Steve]

3 hours ago, faster friends said:

3.5 before and 4.0/4.5 after

That's exactly where I'm at.  4.5 is possible if the grading team is in a good mood.  The pressing will definitely help.

Have you considered having it pressed, and then evaluating whether you want to slab?  (It helps if you have a good presser local to you).

[Bird]

3 minutes ago, Westy Steve said:

That's exactly where I'm at.  4.5 is possible if the grading team is in a good mood.  The pressing will definitely help.

Have you considered having it pressed, and then evaluating whether you want to slab?  (It helps if you have a good presser local to you).

I am not sure that I will have it pressed but I am glad to know what the general range is. 

[Cliff R.]

4 hours ago, Patriot6 said:

It would be very easy to find a nicer copy worth slabbing that won't break the ol' bank.

Maybe for you, my friend. 

[jcjames]

5 hours ago, Bird said:

no spine splits. Thanks for the opinion.

Okay thanks. It's the edges and spine (especially near the staples and the front cover spine that looked split) that really got me.

I just sense a bit too much borderline shabbiness of those edges/spine even with a press to push it into the 4.0 range.

FWIW.

 

[Patriot6]

8 hours ago, Bird said:

I thought it might get to 5.0 so that shows how off I am.

I think the tanning would sink that possibility.

But if you do find one in 5.0 or greater, then you're in slabbing territory. 

I'm not saying that I don't own tons of Archie 'rags,' but not this late in the run. Around issues 60-100 is where they start to become a little more common in 'acceptable' grades. 

Great start to an Archie 1-100 run though ....

[Patriot6]

4 hours ago, Cliff R. said:

Maybe for you, my friend. 

Patience Cliff, patience ! 

[Bird]

4 minutes ago, Patriot6 said:

I think the tanning would sink that possibility.

But if you do find one in 5.0 or greater, then you're in slabbing territory. 

I'm not saying that I don't own tons of Archie 'rags,' but not this late in the run. Around issues 60-100 is where they start to become a little more common in 'acceptable' grades. 

Great start to an Archie 1-100 run though ....

Is this a Harry Lucey cover? 

[Patriot6]

5 minutes ago, Bird said:

Is this a Harry Lucey cover? 

Could be mistaken, but I believe it is still Bill at this point. 

[Cliff R.]

Only 4 on the CGC census. Tried to find a slabbed image, no luck.

[Bird]

3 minutes ago, Cliff R. said:

Only 4 on the CGC census. Tried to find a slabbed image, no luck.

yeah I was looking around as well. I know that I have been drawn to some others that were Harry Lucey so I wondered about this one.

[ThothAmon]

1 hour ago, Patriot6 said:

Around issues 60-100 is where they start to become a little more common in 'acceptable' grades. 

Not sure if that’s true as I think they’re pretty rare in any grade. Hopefully some recent price gains for Archie will prove you right and shake some higher grades out. 

Think you’ve got a 4.0 there and pretty sure it’s worth getting graded.