RCheli Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 I was just bagging some dollar comics tonight when I came upon a Canadian price variant (95 cent) of Daredevil #231 with a Mark Jewelers insert. I did some Googlin' and I couldn't find anything on them. Are there any Mark Jewelers experts that can help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCheli Posted November 28, 2018 Author Share Posted November 28, 2018 Here's the book. I'm thinking this one is going to go into my... wait for it... $3 box instead. Cpt Kirk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADAMANTIUM Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADAMANTIUM Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 @RCheli I think that is cool! Never seen such a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCheli Posted November 28, 2018 Author Share Posted November 28, 2018 10 minutes ago, ADAMANTIUM said: Ha! Send me a PM if you really want it. It's just in Fine condition, but I have never seen one before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimik Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 12 hours ago, RCheli said: Ha! Send me a PM if you really want it. It's just in Fine eBay NM condition, but I have never seen one before. Fixed that for you. Very cool find nonetheless. CDN editions with the MJ would be extremely rare. ADAMANTIUM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RCheli Posted November 28, 2018 Author Share Posted November 28, 2018 There was another copy, too! Same issue, same condition, just someone put a 75 cent sticker over the 95 cents. (It could probably be removed by someone with talent.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimik Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 If you can find an ASM #238 MJ CDN variant then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Hood Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 I would be very leery of this. I would check the staple holes on the MJ insert. I don't believe Mark Jeweller Insert books were distributed in Canada, let alone, make it into a Canadian Price Variant distributed books. MJ insert books became available on the secondary or aftermarket in Canada through resale of collections and so forth. I tend to think that this book was manipulated. Oddly enough, why would someone bother to manipulate that issue? It's lower grade and not a key. My only guess is that they were practicing on books to add the insert and this was one of the experiments. Get Marwood & I, Ballymore3 and Silver Surfer 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awe4one Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 I have never heard of such a thing. Weird. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Marwood & I Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 13 minutes ago, awe4one said: I have never heard of such a thing. Weird. Jim Me neither. 15 minutes ago, Red_Hood said: I would be very leery of this. I would check the staple holes on the MJ insert. I don't believe Mark Jeweller Insert books were distributed in Canada, let alone, make it into a Canadian Price Variant distributed books. MJ insert books became available on the secondary or aftermarket in Canada through resale of collections and so forth. I tend to think that this book was manipulated. Oddly enough, why would someone bother to manipulate that issue? It's lower grade and not a key. My only guess is that they were practicing on books to add the insert and this was one of the experiments. Whilst anything is possible, and mistakes can happen at the printers, theres no evidence that MJ inserts went into Canadian copies by design as you say. More likely this is an attempt at manipulation. And as for the issue being a non key, wouldn't that be what you would do? Add 'authenticity' by adding one to a nondescript book? That would be clever. I saw an ASM 121 with a MJI once and it was obviously a construct. And you could see why a person would do it, being a key. That has always been a problem with the MJIs - the fact that it is possible to 'create' one. I still love them though, and it would be cool if this could be proven to be authentic somehow. Ballymore3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Marwood & I Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 1 hour ago, RCheli said: There was another copy, too! Same issue, same condition, just someone put a 75 cent sticker over the 95 cents. (It could probably be removed by someone with talent.) Double weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCheli Posted November 28, 2018 Author Share Posted November 28, 2018 I pulled this copy (and the second copy) from 4 long boxes I bought a week ago. There were a few later issues of Daredevil that also had MJ inserts, though they were the regular price (as they were past the period where there was US/Canadian price differences). I can certainly take more pictures of these comics, though I don't think that there was any nefarious manipulation happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Marwood & I Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 7 minutes ago, RCheli said: I pulled this copy (and the second copy) from 4 long boxes I bought a week ago. There were a few later issues of Daredevil that also had MJ inserts, though they were the regular price (as they were past the period where there was US/Canadian price differences). I can certainly take more pictures of these comics, though I don't think that there was any nefarious manipulation happening. More pictures would be great. Tell tale signs are enlarged staple holes and inserts that don't exactly fit the cut of the book. Overhang / underhang (is that a word?) That kind of thing. ADAMANTIUM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimik Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Based on the other copy with a 75C sticker, maybe that month there were some misprints where the CDN newsstand cover received the MJ inserts that were to be distributed to the military? If that is the case, there may be other issues that have them. Or, if it was just this specific issue, you now have an extremely rare double variant that collectors will chase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCheli Posted November 28, 2018 Author Share Posted November 28, 2018 32 minutes ago, kimik said: Based on the other copy with a 75C sticker, maybe that month there were some misprints where the CDN newsstand cover received the MJ inserts that were to be distributed to the military? If that is the case, there may be other issues that have them. Or, if it was just this specific issue, you now have an extremely rare double variant that collectors will chase. I'll take a picture of the 75 cent sticker. It did not look professional in the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beyonder123 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 (edited) I have a list of the insert codes with the months they were distributed. When I get home I will check to see if the code of this book lines up with the month it came out. Ill get back to you when I can. Edited November 28, 2018 by Beyonder123 Red_Hood, Get Marwood & I and ADAMANTIUM 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Hood Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 59 minutes ago, Get Marwood & I said: Me neither. Whilst anything is possible, and mistakes can happen at the printers, theres no evidence that MJ inserts went into Canadian copies by design as you say. More likely this is an attempt at manipulation. And as for the issue being a non key, wouldn't that be what you would do? Add 'authenticity' by adding one to a nondescript book? That would be clever. I saw an ASM 121 with a MJI once and it was obviously a construct. And you could see why a person would do it, being a key. That has always been a problem with the MJIs - the fact that it is possible to 'create' one. I still love them though, and it would be cool if this could be proven to be authentic somehow. Absolutely, anything is possible. I could see some sort of confusing cross-over distribution occur during the transition of Canadian Price Variants. I don't know if it would bring a big premium to a book in that condition though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Marwood & I Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, Red_Hood said: Absolutely, anything is possible. I could see some sort of confusing cross-over distribution occur during the transition of Canadian Price Variants. I don't know if it would bring a big premium to a book in that condition though. Depends how many Daredevil completists get to hear about it. If there are any that is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...