tth2 Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 14 hours ago, delekkerste said: WWJD WWSBD Which is ironic because J cured the blind, while SB made people want to blind themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdroom Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 33 minutes ago, tth2 said: Which is ironic because J cured the blind, while SB made people want to blind themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman_fan Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 16 hours ago, tth2 said: Which is ironic because J cured the blind, while SB made people want to blind themselves. Ouch, that one is going to leave a mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tth2 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 7 hours ago, batman_fan said: On 8/23/2019 at 2:21 AM, tth2 said: Which is ironic because J cured the blind, while SB made people want to blind themselves. Ouch, that one is going to leave a mark I was just joking, as it was Sal's successor on Captain America, Frank Robbins, who was the artist that made me want to blind myself. As someone who started collecting Cap with issue #149, and also collected the Defenders, I'll always have a soft spot in my heart for Sal. alxjhnsn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman_fan Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 minute ago, tth2 said: I was just joking, as it was Sal's successor on Captain America, Frank Robbins, who was the artist that made me want to blind myself. As someone who started collecting Cap with issue #149, and also collected the Defenders, I'll always have a soft spot in my heart for Sal. I was never a fan of Frank Robbins either. He sort of had a GA artist feel in my opinion. alxjhnsn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tth2 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Just now, batman_fan said: I was never a fan of Frank Robbins either. He sort of had a GA artist feel in my opinion. Yeah, a bad GA artist. I only realized in later years that he was trying to mimic Milton Caniff's style, but he couldn't pull it off. To this day, I don't know what possessed Marvel to hire an old artist like him and put him on Cap. Surely there were fresh young artists that deserved a shot. Marvel also put him on the Invaders, which drove me off that title. alxjhnsn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ESeffinga Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 I don’t mind being a casual lone dissenter on this one, and I’ll confess I’m probably not familiar enough with Frank Robbins’ Marvel work to have an opinion there, but a lot of his work on the Johnny Hazard strip was amazingly cool and stylistic from my perspective. Not always, but he had some doozies when he was on. In fact, I see a similarity to Robbins’ Hazard Art in Andrew Robinson’s work, when he came along. And him I quite like as well. Sal, not so much at any stage. lb jefferies 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vodou Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 hour ago, ESeffinga said: casual lone dissenter You may remain the casual lone but not the lone dissenter. I hated Robbins. Until I didn't, and it was Johnny Hazard that turned it around for me. Once I got that (mentally, but also many dailies and Sundays into my collection), all the other work fell into place. It was a matter of understanding the architecture underneath the zaniness. Robbins is excellent on Cap and Invaders, his Red Skull and Nightshade panels in particular. I have always enjoyed being one of the few, the proud, the Frank Robbins Collectors...as that's what's allowed me to buy them up cheaply, quietly, for decades. I don't ever need the crowd to follow me into this tranche, raising values tenfold, because then I'd just be tempted to sell. No thanks; still cheap and mine is just fine ESeffinga 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pemart1966 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 6 hours ago, tth2 said: Yeah, a bad GA artist. I only realized in later years that he was trying to mimic Milton Caniff's style, but he couldn't pull it off. To this day, I don't know what possessed Marvel to hire an old artist like him and put him on Cap. Surely there were fresh young artists that deserved a shot. Marvel also put him on the Invaders, which drove me off that title. Ditto for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glendgold Posted August 24, 2019 Author Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 hour ago, pemart1966 said: Ditto for me Robbins had a jittery, energetic style that I appreciated, but I couldn't forgive him for this -- he had a thing for drawing characters spitting. And when they spat, a FOUNTAIN always came out. It was his version of #Eisnerspritz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlo M Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 I utterly hated FR as a kid, but over time I have come to appreciate what he was trying to do, certainly a different take from the then prevailing Marvel style, and also from the new stable of artists like Brunner, Ploog etc. Not to the point of wanting to buy his OA though, so not to worry, no upward pricing pressure from this side. alxjhnsn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhamlau Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Not a FR guy myself, but I do love Caniff work so thats odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapeape Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 On 8/22/2019 at 9:04 AM, delekkerste said: WWJD WWSBD Sal would get a kick out of this. zhamlau 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapeape Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Caniff is DeGrom 13k through 7 and driving in the only run with a HR FR is Familla the gas can. So much promise but usually falls short of getting the job done. zhamlau 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tth2 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 23 hours ago, glendgold said: Robbins had a jittery, energetic style that I appreciated, but I couldn't forgive him for this -- he had a thing for drawing characters spitting. And when they spat, a FOUNTAIN always came out. It was his version of #Eisnerspritz. So true. His Johnny Hazard work was just a cheap imitation of Caniff, and his Marvel work was a cheap imitation of his Johnny Hazard work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tth2 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 21 hours ago, Carlo M said: Not to the point of wanting to buy his OA though, so not to worry, no upward pricing pressure from this side. I would like to buy his OA, just so I can burn it. alxjhnsn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhamlau Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 22 hours ago, grapeape said: Caniff is DeGrom 13k through 7 and driving in the only run with a HR FR is Familla the gas can. So much promise but usually falls short of getting the job done. I still don’t get this random inability to score runs. How the hell does this team of all manage to have their top 5 of rotation go 1/27?! Just murdering folks for weeks, then blown out like a candle when needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vodou Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 6 hours ago, zhamlau said: I still don’t get this random inability to score runs. How the hell does this team of all manage to have their top 5 of rotation go 1/27?! Just murdering folks for weeks, then blown out like a candle when needed. I wish I gave a you-know-what about baseball But I don't. However...in about two weeks it is TOM DOMINATES SEASON again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapeape Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 7 hours ago, zhamlau said: I still don’t get this random inability to score runs. How the hell does this team of all manage to have their top 5 of rotation go 1/27?! Just murdering folks for weeks, then blown out like a candle when needed. The Braves curse man.... Chipper Jones - Smoltz-Maddux in the 90's now swept at home with new monsters like Freddie and Acuna.....The Met's have put together a great second half run. Their abysmal bullpen and first half of baseball left them with a huge hill to climb. 32 games left it feels like they have to finish 23-9 to squeak in the playoff. zhamlau 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapeape Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Rendered edge-to-edge in oil on 22" x 36" thick pressboard. Jeff Jones Kothar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...