gadzukes Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Ares said: dumbest Panel Ever. Would have been a better issue if the Eliminated that You simply can't take decades of character building and throw it out the window. Those panels weren't necessary. Hypersphere, kav, 1950's war comics and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Aldred Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 (edited) Both Doom and Kingpin are obsessed with power and more than likely have psychopathic tendencies, one common symptom being lack of empathy and lack of true emotional connection. Contrary to the claim there, the worst can be devoid of that. So, those panels were pushing credibility a bit. Edited September 22, 2020 by Ken Aldred kav, Larryw7 and 1950's war comics 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ares Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 16 hours ago, Ken Aldred said: Both Doom and Kingpin are obsessed with power and more than likely have psychopathic tendencies, one common symptom being lack of empathy and lack of true emotional connection. Contrary to the claim there, the worst can be devoid of that. So, those panels were pushing credibility a bit. And Magneto was even worse. He actively was working to elimination of Humanity. Why would he even cry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Aldred Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 7 minutes ago, Ares said: And Magneto was even worse. He actively was working to elimination of Humanity. Why would he even cry Psychopathic detachment is often illustrated by a quote associated with Stalin.. ”A single death is a tragedy ; a million deaths is a statistic.” Which, given the context of those panels, makes their dialogue and thought processes very debatable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JazzMan Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Ares said: And Magneto was even worse. He actively was working to elimination of Humanity. Why would he even cry Tears of joy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted September 23, 2020 Author Share Posted September 23, 2020 19 hours ago, Ken Aldred said: Both Doom and Kingpin are obsessed with power and more than likely have psychopathic tendencies, one common symptom being lack of empathy and lack of true emotional connection. Contrary to the claim there, the worst can be devoid of that. So, those panels were pushing credibility a bit. I want to post something a serial killer said when asked if someone begged him would he think about letting them go but not sure what causes strikes so better not. The answer is NO Dr Doom would not shed a tear over this that is really bad writing. 1950's war comics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hypersphere Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 23 hours ago, Ken Aldred said: Both Doom and Kingpin are obsessed with power and more than likely have psychopathic tendencies, one common symptom being lack of empathy and lack of true emotional connection. Contrary to the claim there, the worst can be devoid of that. So, those panels were pushing credibility a bit. It feels as though their characters are being degraded, and it's always such shame when that happens to villains kav 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirbyJack Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 (edited) I remember stopping dead in my tracks while reading that. Not a good moment in the story for the writer to lose his audience. I came away from that with nothing. Edited September 23, 2020 by KirbyJack kav and 1950's war comics 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kav Posted September 23, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Hypersphere said: It feels as though their characters are being degraded, and it's always such shame when that happens to villains 35 minutes ago, KirbyJack said: I remember stopping dead in my tracks while reading that. Not a good moment in the story for the writer to lose his audience. I came away from that with nothing. Imagine say youre watching Terminator and in the middle of the movie suddenly the Terminator sees a puppy and starts cryng and takes the puppy to the vet and buys it food and stuff. Bad writing. BAD BAD BAD. The writer was TRYING to demonstrate the awfulness of the situation. This is not how it's done. Instead, they made the whole story a joke. Bad. 1950's war comics, Hypersphere, JJ-4 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gadzukes Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 1 hour ago, kav said: Imagine say youre watching Terminator and in the middle of the movie suddenly the Terminator sees a puppy and starts cryng and takes the puppy to the vet and buys it food and stuff. Bad writing. BAD BAD BAD. The writer was TRYING to demonstrate the awfulness of the situation. This is not how it's done. Instead, they made the whole story a joke. Bad. Marvel Villains had no place being anywhere NEAR that story. kav and Hypersphere 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted September 24, 2020 Author Share Posted September 24, 2020 24 minutes ago, gadzukes said: Marvel Villains had no place being anywhere NEAR that story. Exactly. And you just know that writer patted himself on the back for this epic comic moment "Damn I'm good" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gadzukes Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, kav said: Exactly. And you just know that writer patted himself on the back for this epic comic moment "Damn I'm good" I'll bet the writer did that at the time, but I'll bet he/she looks back now at what he/she wrote and does this....... kav and KirbyJack 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hypersphere Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 13 hours ago, kav said: Imagine say youre watching Terminator and in the middle of the movie suddenly the Terminator sees a puppy and starts cryng and takes the puppy to the vet and buys it food and stuff. Bad writing. BAD BAD BAD. The writer was TRYING to demonstrate the awfulness of the situation. This is not how it's done. Instead, they made the whole story a joke. Bad. Hell, a better way of demonstrating how terrible the situation was would have been showing the contrast between their callousness and the destruction, which a good writer should be able to do 1950's war comics and kav 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ken Aldred Posted September 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 24, 2020 (edited) I think that at the time we were understandably shocked, traumatised, saddened and angry at such an atrocity, and were looking for some way to deal with the immense overload of grief. As a form of unloading and catharsis for the writer, he goes too far with the Doom sequence. Kingpin, a New Yorker, is the most believable, but not an unmotivated, self-interested, foreign, dictatorial, Latverian psychopath. Edited September 24, 2020 by Ken Aldred kav, Hypersphere, 1950's war comics and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted September 24, 2020 Author Share Posted September 24, 2020 18 hours ago, gadzukes said: I'll bet the writer did that at the time, but I'll bet he/she looks back now at what he/she wrote and does this....... Yep. I've been there. Not this bad but yep. Omg why did I write that nonsense? 6 hours ago, Hypersphere said: Hell, a better way of demonstrating how terrible the situation was would have been showing the contrast between their callousness and the destruction, which a good writer should be able to do Exactly. Doom should have said something like "those people think too small-" 5 hours ago, Ken Aldred said: I think that at the time we were understandably shocked, traumatised, saddened and angry at such an atrocity, and were looking for some way to deal with the immense overload of grief. As a form of unloading and catharsis for the writer, he goes too far with the Doom sequence. Kingpin, a New Yorker, is the most believable, but not an unmotivated, self-interested, foreign, dictatorial, Latverian psychopath. Exactly. Kingpin-thats his home-he being upset = believable. He's also already been demonstrated to care about stuff like his family. Doom-Nope. 1950's war comics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted September 24, 2020 Author Share Posted September 24, 2020 The writer was going for the yo mama so or the chuck norris effect- This incident was so horrible even Dr Doom cried!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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1950's war comics Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 i have never a read an issue of Wonder Woman before...... FoggyNelson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gadzukes Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 On 9/25/2020 at 4:44 AM, Larryw7 said: -To swing the bat she would have turn the back of her head towards the pitcher, but then she wouldn't see the ball (maybe she hears the ball coming?). -If the ball is actually thrown into the strike zone it would be especially hard to hit. -To wield the bat in her mouth she wouldn't be able to clench her teeth like shown, she would look more like a "blow-up doll" Hypersphere 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted October 2, 2020 Author Share Posted October 2, 2020 (edited) Avengers 165 and any other of the countless comics that show people picking up a building. BUILDINGS DO NOT WORK LIKE THIS! And here he goes agin in Avengers 166 Edited October 2, 2020 by kav Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...