Beige Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 A 6.5 CGC Hawkman #4. I have one, which I found in a collection and slabbed, but it doesn't fit into any of my collecting focuses. On one hand Zatanna is an assistant in a 5th rate Las Vegas magic act. On the other she has potential to be a huge star in the DC multiverse. So hold or sell? What would you do - or where do you see Zatanna heading in the future? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuddyBee Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, Beige said: A 6.5 CGC Hawkman #4. I have one, which I found in a collection and slabbed, but it doesn't fit into any of my collecting focuses. On one hand Zatanna is an assistant in a 5th rate Las Vegas magic act. On the other she has potential to be a huge star in the DC multiverse. So hold or sell? What would you do - or where do you see Zatanna heading in the future? I picked up just a 1.5 Hawkman 4 a while back, and have seen a lot of growth even in that grade. It's a fairly rare book, and with a Justice League Dark movie in the works, I'd hold on to it unless you need to sell it now, or need the $$$ to purchase another book. ADAMANTIUM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzetta Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 I might be holding two copies... you never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tv horror Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 52 minutes ago, Beige said: A 6.5 CGC Hawkman #4. I have one, which I found in a collection and slabbed, but it doesn't fit into any of my collecting focuses. On one hand Zatanna is an assistant in a 5th rate Las Vegas magic act. On the other she has potential to be a huge star in the DC multiverse. So hold or sell? What would you do - or where do you see Zatanna heading in the future? Ti ot no dloh dlouw I RockMyAmadeus, creaturefan95, HuddyBee and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blastaar Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Always thought it was an overpriced issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dupont2005 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Hold. It’s only a matter of time until they dig her up for a movie or TV show or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larryw7 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 I would hold onto it. I have a copy and I've no plans to sell it. porcupine48 and 1950's war comics 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadroch Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 I haven't had a copy in twenty years, but if I did, I'd sell if there was a profit in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porcupine48 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 23 minutes ago, Larryw7 said: I would hold onto it. I have a copy and I've no plans to sell it. Great book,even if your just in it for covers! I've had mine for eleven years,it's going nowhere! Larryw7 and Beige 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizards2 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 32 minutes ago, porcupine48 said: Great book,even if your just in it for covers! I've had mine for eleven years,it's going nowhere! That's not what I heard...., Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidTheDavid Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 9 hours ago, HuddyBee said: I picked up just a 1.5 Hawkman 4 a while back, and have seen a lot of growth even in that grade. It's a fairly rare book, and with a Justice League Dark movie in the works, I'd hold on to it unless you need to sell it now, or need the $$$ to purchase another book. Is it “fairly rare”? I need one for my a Hawkman run, and I see plenty of them every time I look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan. Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 There's about 60 copies on ebay as of this post. WolverineX 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badback83 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 I didn’t check GPA so I might be wrong. But didn’t it take a decent size bump a year or so ago? I might be thinking of another book. Not a hard book to find IMO. Sell/trade it and get something you want is my thought. WolverineX 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempus Fugit Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 I accidentally put one in a $5 box and sold it a few years back. It did not really bother me that much. 2nd rate character in a 2 rate title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizards2 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 5 hours ago, DavidTheDavid said: Is it “fairly rare”? I need one for my a Hawkman run, and I see plenty of them every time I look. No - it is just another "hawt" book that has outpriced itself, leaving excessive copies to languish in dealer inventories, because they think it should sell for more than it is worth. This seems to be the formula these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolverineX Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 5 hours ago, DocHoppus182 said: I didn’t check GPA so I might be wrong. But didn’t it take a decent size bump a year or so ago? I might be thinking of another book. Not a hard book to find IMO. Sell/trade it and get something you want is my thought. Agreed. get something u want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuddyBee Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, DavidTheDavid said: Is it “fairly rare”? I need one for my a Hawkman run, and I see plenty of them every time I look. You see 'em on eBay, but try to find one out in the wild or at a con. Even so there aren't a ton of copies compared to a lot of other books. Compared to marvel books of equal interest you've got 841 on census for Hawkman 4, with 2,678 for FF 49, and 5,626 for Iron Man 1. Is it rare? No. But it is fairly rare. It ain't common, like I said try to find one at a shop or a con. P.S. Nice to meet a fellow boardie with a Hawkman run Edited December 8, 2019 by HuddyBee ADAMANTIUM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADAMANTIUM Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, HuddyBee said: 7 hours ago, DavidTheDavid said: Is it “fairly rare”? I need one for my a Hawkman run, and I see plenty of them every time I look. You see 'em on eBay, but try to find one out in the wild or at a con. Even so there aren't a ton of copies compared to a lot of other books. Compared to marvel books of equal interest you've got 841 on census for Hawkman 4, with 2,678 for FF 49, and 5,626 for Iron Man 1. Is it rare? No. But it is fairly rare. It ain't common, like I said try to find one at a shop or a con. I agree. Somewhat. There seems to always be some available on the bay, maybe it just doesn't sell that often though. I had looked at it 3-4 years ago, not seeing too many sales at the time, I never picked one up still kind of want one though... The reason I'm responding though is to say that, a LCS in town that does Facebook Live videos selling comics had a video recently maybe 1-2 weeks ago, and when he was about to announce that book that he picked up in a collection, he prefaced it by saying that he had only picked it up in a collection 3-4 times in his 30 year career.... Might be there aren't many sitting in collections locally in Dallas, but I've heard the sentiment often since getting back in the game in 2014 or there abouts HuddyBee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizards2 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 28 minutes ago, HuddyBee said: 7 hours ago, DavidTheDavid said: Is it “fairly rare”? I need one for my a Hawkman run, and I see plenty of them every time I look. You see 'em on eBay, but try to find one out in the wild or at a con. Even so there aren't a ton of copies compared to a lot of other books. Compared to marvel books of equal interest you've got 841 on census for Hawkman 4, with 2,678 for FF 49, and 5,626 for Iron Man 1. Is it rare? No. But it is fairly rare. It ain't common, like I said try to find one at a shop or a con. P.S. Nice to meet a fellow boardie with a Hawkman run The only reason there are 835 copies in the census is because it's supposedly "hawt", and people are submitting the book to squeeze money out of that particular issue. If the census is your criteria for rare, then you should be stockpiling Hawkman 3s (110 on census) or Hawkman 5s (136 on census). Comparing Marvels to DC is an apples/oranges comparison - there are lot more Marvel collectors out there. There is no way Hawkman 4 is of equal interest to the collecting world as an FF 49 or Iron Man 1. I have no idea what the print runs were on these books for a real comparison, but when you can readily find 40-50 copies on eBay at any given time (albeit in garbage grades) the book is not any kind of rare - there are way more copies out there than actual collectors of the series. That being said, I love the Hawkman run, and the B&B issues. Beautiful artwork and colors on the DC books of this era. HuddyBee, ADAMANTIUM, Unca Ben and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuddyBee Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, lizards2 said: The only reason there are 835 copies in the census is because it's supposedly "hawt", and people are submitting the book to squeeze money out of that particular issue. If the census is your criteria for rare, then you should be stockpiling Hawkman 3s (110 on census) or Hawkman 5s (136 on census). Comparing Marvels to DC is an apples/oranges comparison - there are lot more Marvel collectors out there. There is no way Hawkman 4 is of equal interest to the collecting world as an FF 49 or Iron Man 1. I have no idea what the print runs were on these books for a real comparison, but when you can readily find 40-50 copies on eBay at any given time (albeit in garbage grades) the book is not any kind of rare - there are way more copies out there than actual collectors of the series. Census numbers only matter slightly if a book is collectible and would warrant grading. Issues 3 and 5 aren't keys (*5 is 2nd Shadow Thief) so don't warrant grading making the numbers low. I compared Hawkman 4 to those issues because they sell for similar prices in mid-grade range, and are both "hawt." The comparison was made because more Marvel books survived than DC, as often Marvel books were bought by collectors and preserved, while DC books were by children and often tossed out. SA DC books are more rare than SA Marvel, so if the interest of the market ever shifts from Marvel to DC, you'll see a pretty good increase in DC prices. So when I say "fairly rare," compare it to the competition and you'll see what I am talking about. And yes 40-50 copies can be a sort of "rare." You're on eBay, the books are from all around the world. I've never seen a Hawkman 4 in the wild or at a con. Try to find it at a con or in the wild and tell me it isn't "fairly" hard to find or "rare." P.S. That 9.2 is a beauty. I've a measly raw 3.0 and 1.8. Gotta love Murphy Anderson tho. And Joe Kubert... (here's my 34, about a 2.5) Edited December 8, 2019 by HuddyBee ADAMANTIUM and Unca Ben 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...