BS or BWS ?? 0

[Senormac]

A different kind of "Please grade my" 

I'm wondering what those in the know here thinks of this situation.  Two prints - two totally different experiences. 

Is one a fake ?   Is one a counterfeit ? Are the both legit ?  What makes you think so ? 

First of all, the backs 

 

Notice, one has a red stamp on the back, the other does not 

 

And here are the prints.  I don't think, this print ever had a second edition did it ?  And I am no expert 

 

Here is the sig on the print with the red Gorblimey Press stamp on the back.  The sig looks like I remember it looking in that time period.

Plus, it's his name BEFORE he took the "Windsor" name on.  

 

And here is the sig from the print with NO red Gorblimey Press stamp on the back.  

Opinions anyone ? What year did Barry adopt the Windsor title to his name ?  

Is this possibly just a rip off / fake BWS sig ? 

Any signature specialists around here ? 

Edited March 12, 2020 by Senormac
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[mtlevy1]

Both authentic

One with stamp is from the original issue (non-numbered edition) and the other one was likely purchased later and certainly signed later

Edited March 12, 2020 by mtlevy1

[theCapraAegagrus]

I'm gonna be of real help here:

I have no ing clue.

[Senormac]

10 hours ago, mtlevy1 said:

Both authentic

One with stamp is from the original issue (non-numbered edition) and the other one was likely purchased later and certainly signed later

Thx.  I thought it was possible that the print was taken to a show where Barry was appearing and had it signed, even though it may have been years later. 

[Deadpoolica]

6 hours ago, theCapraAegagrus said:

I'm gonna be of real help here:

I have no ing clue.

Same 

[mtlevy1]

On 3/12/2020 at 9:31 AM, Senormac said:

Thx.  I thought it was possible that the print was taken to a show where Barry was appearing and had it signed, even though it may have been years later. 

He sells some of these vintage prints off his website - and signs them so could be from there as well

http://barrywindsor-smith.com/galleria/enchantprint.html

[Senormac]

Yes. Well, the first thing I notice when I look at your link is that this print does not have the printers info in the corners.  

So it is definitely from a different run. Bottom right and left..... blank.  

 

 

The print I have, aside from the signature,  has info in both corners