This is Who We Are Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 36 minutes ago, The Lions Den said: This can also occur due to the specific invoice itself... Lions Den is always a wealth of knowledge. If you wouldn't mind clarifying, I'm a simpleton , how grading variance can occur due to the specific invoice? Thanks!!! WolverineX 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telerites Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Jeffro. said: He was here. you just missed him I blinked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolverineX Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 1 hour ago, This is Who We Are said: Lions Den is always a wealth of knowledge. If you wouldn't mind clarifying, I'm a simpleton , how grading variance can occur due to the specific invoice? Thanks!!! Yes he is great! I am curious as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattn792 Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 Well that was a fun read. Left me wondering if @BITCOINSWAMI finally bought that VPN he'd be threatening for so long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidking623 Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 Wow this Thread is Jedi mind melt I just wasted more time reading it and with no resolution as far as pics of the book and there is no way I would grade a book with out a scan and that is not always accurate either nothing like having the book in your hands to grade it ! Seriously though I Love CGC and have had Grades not go my way with more going my way then not I mean when you send books expecting 9.6 and it comes back 9.8 you always smile but when you send in thinking 9.4 and it comes back 9.2 not smiling quite as much I have done many victory dances and I can assure you its more times then not ! The grade on your book and its a wag its a 7.0 to a 9.2 but I guess that is what you are not looking for ! My first Post in what feels like years LOL Davidking623 Catwomancomics, The Lions Den and Deadpoolica 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Lions Den Posted June 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted June 6, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, This is Who We Are said: Lions Den is always a wealth of knowledge. If you wouldn't mind clarifying, I'm a simpleton , how grading variance can occur due to the specific invoice? Thanks!!! Please bear in mind that I'm just speaking from my own personal experience, and this is not necessarily accurate with regard to the current grading climate at CGC... But for the sake of my explanation, let's say you're a grader at CGC. You look at an average of 150 to 200 books a day. Some of the invoices you grade are ones that you're specifically designated to grade and some of them are invoices that you end up having to grade because of some other reason. You have an area of expertise that you like to stay in---your own comfort zone. For this exercise, let's say it's Silver Age Marvels. You're more familiar with books from that era, so it's easier for you to arrive at an accurate grade because you've seen more of them, you know all the page counts and you're more attuned to the flaws associated with those books. In other words, you're more comfortable with them. Everything is going very smoothly until you have a 30 book invoice placed on your desk which contains all modern comics. Suddenly you have to switch gears and become a modern grader. As I'm sure the modern collectors here know, there are all kinds of cover variants and different versions within the modern spectrum. So immediately you begin to feel a certain amount of stress with just trying to make sure the book you're holding in your hands is entered into the system correctly. Not only that, you don't know what the common flaws are on those books, so you have to keep asking someone who does know, which is never a good thing. So this one invoice changes the entire course of your day...and your grading may suffer because of it. Edited June 6, 2020 by The Lions Den WolverineX, ender, This is Who We Are and 8 others 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lions Den Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Wolverinex said: Yes he is great! I am curious as well. Thank you. I did provide a more detailed explanation to This Is Who We Are which may help you understand what I meant... This is Who We Are and WolverineX 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comics4All Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, mattn792 said: Well that was a fun read. Left me wondering if @BITCOINSWAMI finally bought that VPN he'd be threatening for so long. Wudy! This guy makes swami look smart! Edited June 6, 2020 by Comics4All Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeypost Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 18 hours ago, The Lions Den said: Please bear in mind that I'm just speaking from my own personal experience, and this is not necessarily accurate with regard to the current grading climate at CGC... But for the sake of my explanation, let's say you're a grader at CGC. You look at an average of 150 to 200 books a day. Some of the invoices you grade are ones that you're specifically designated to grade and some of them are invoices that you end up having to grade because of some other reason. You have an area of expertise that you like to stay in---your own comfort zone. For this exercise, let's say it's Silver Age Marvels. You're more familiar with books from that era, so it's easier for you to arrive at an accurate grade because you've seen more of them, you know all the page counts and you're more attuned to the flaws associated with those books. In other words, you're more comfortable with them. Everything is going very smoothly until you have a 30 book invoice placed on your desk which contains all modern comics. Suddenly you have to switch gears and become a modern grader. As I'm sure the modern collectors here know, there are all kinds of cover variants and different versions within the modern spectrum. So immediately you begin to feel a certain amount of stress with just trying to make sure the book you're holding in your hands is entered into the system correctly. Not only that, you don't know what the common flaws are on those books, so you have to keep asking someone who does know, which is never a good thing. So this one invoice changes the entire course of your day...and your grading may suffer because of it. I often wondered about this. Many times I have sent in invoices that I thought were identical in grade (these were pre-screens). One invoice has few failures while the next has 25% or more. I find that I get a pass rate of at least 50% on my pre-screen failures the second time around. Thank you for your insight, it has helped clear up things in my mind. onlyweaknesskryptonite, The Lions Den and Randall Dowling 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djpinkpanther67 Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 (edited) 39 minutes ago, joeypost said: I often wondered about this. Many times I have sent in invoices that I thought were identical in grade (these were pre-screens). One invoice has few failures while the next has 25% or more. I find that I get a pass rate of at least 50% on my pre-screen failures the second time around. Thank you for your insight, it has helped clear up things in my mind. I’ve noticed this as well...There was a 9.6 prescreen I just had come back where all were 9.8 PS rejects, and over half of them came back 9.8 Edited June 7, 2020 by djpinkpanther67 Topnotchman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HemiGTX Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 Wow, ole Mully79 came in like an Einstein Tornado and left destruction in his wake. I guess as he put it he "owned" all of us because nobody could deduce his grade based off of three graders notes. Welp, thanks Mully79 for blessing us with your vast intellectual prowess. If you can ever find it in your heart to come back here a deal with us simpletons, please do so, and enlighten us with more of your dazzling brain power. Keys_Collector and The Lions Den 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JollyComics Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 OP's last post that lasted nearly 24 hours. This dude got alot of attention. I am jealous of this a n00b! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffro. Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 1 hour ago, djpinkpanther67 said: 1 hour ago, joeypost said: I often wondered about this. Many times I have sent in invoices that I thought were identical in grade (these were pre-screens). One invoice has few failures while the next has 25% or more. I find that I get a pass rate of at least 50% on my pre-screen failures the second time around. Thank you for your insight, it has helped clear up things in my mind. I’ve noticed this as well...There was a 9.6 prescreen I just had come back where all were 9.8 PS rejects, and over half of them came back 9.8 On one day, it's a 9.6 and on another day it's a 9.8 or vice versa. All of which makes the silly money paid for 9.8s, well....silly. The Lions Den, telerites and Deadpoolica 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaard Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 7 hours ago, djpinkpanther67 said: I’ve noticed this as well...There was a 9.6 prescreen I just had come back where all were 9.8 PS rejects, and over half of them came back 9.8 I've had this happen as well. The Lions Den 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myowncollector Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 Very Disappointing First and Last Experience if I had a hundred bucks every time a woman told me that I would have a heck of a comic collection. electricprune 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onlyweaknesskryptonite Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 8 minutes ago, Myowncollector said: Very Disappointing First and Last Experience if I had a hundred bucks every time a woman told me that I would have a heck of a comic collection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onlyweaknesskryptonite Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 7 hours ago, HemiGTX said: Wow, ole Mully79 came in like an Einstein Tornado and left destruction in his wake. I guess as he put it he "owned" all of us because nobody could deduce his grade based off of three graders notes. Welp, thanks Mully79 for blessing us with your vast intellectual prowess. If you can ever find it in your heart to come back here a deal with us simpletons, please do so, and enlighten us with more of your dazzling brain power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Ries Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 (edited) I created a game here several years ago where I would post a picture of a CGC graded book, covered the grade and invite members to grade. Almost every single book was overgraded by the members. I posted several 7.0 books and they came back graded at 9.0 or better. I did this because the I felt they were undergraded by CGC. Granted there may have been stuff going on the inside of the book but I kinda doubt it. I have seen 7.0 GL/GA #76 that were virtually flawless and some 9.0-9.2 with hatchet marks up and down the spine. It's ridiculous. Only advantage is I bought some really nice 9.0's at 7.0 pricing. CGC grading seems to depend on whether or not the graders girlfriend or wife was kind to him the night before. I mean really. There were and ARE some books for sale graded at tiers they have no business being at. Edited June 7, 2020 by Randall Ries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Ries Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, onlyweaknesskryptonite said: Mully79 is a troll and best ignored. Who needs the aggravation? I hope his books fall in the tub of water he can soak his head in. The Lions Den 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordysnordy Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 On 6/5/2020 at 1:59 PM, comicquant said: Depends on how you like your tea Earl Grey hot 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...