theCapraAegagrus Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 Nobody was "shutting anyone up". I doubt mods removed the thread because of the programming discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanfingh Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 It wasn’t for lack of trying, craftsman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirJames1454 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 Many of us probably understand how he feels a wee bit. A few months back, I submitted five of my comics to get graded. Now, to set the story, these comics of mine (and about 99% of all my other ones) that I purchased back in the very early 90's have never been opened or read. At that time, I went to the comic book store and the owner allowed me to carefully hand pick the comics out of his just arrived shipment of new comics. I immediately placed them into a cardboard backed, acid free plastic bag made for comics. I then placed those comics into a comic storage box. I have four long boxes of comics sitting in a humidity controlled (and mostly dark) place in my finished basement for years! Not sure if anything else I could have been done to keep them in more of a pristine condition. After all these years, I thought....why not get a few graded. These things are in mint condition and should get a super high rating of at least 9.8! Why wouldn't they! - (see first part of story above) . You can imagine my surprise when I received them back a couple months later. Two of my Spiderman's were rated at 9.2. Vamperella #1 was rated at 9.2, Spawn #1 rated at 9.4 and another Spiderman rated at 9.6. I read the notes (i.e. "faults") that they associated with each of the comics and tried my best to find them. I honestly can say that I might have found one of the "issues", but I sure as hell couldn't find any of the others! But, I guess its the luck of the draw (and someones opinion that day), so to speak. Am I a bit bummed that they were not graded higher? Sure, who wouldn't be. Do I believe they should be rated higher? In my opinion...yup. But, watcha' gonna' do. It didn't deter me from sending in another five comics two months ago (waiting on results). Kinda' feels like buying some scratch off tickets. You may be a bit disappointed after the first one is scratched, but hoping the next ones better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Dositheus Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Unfortunately I was up so late I slept 'til noon and never got to see the responses. But I'll let sleeping dogs lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldbsturgeon Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 (edited) So I am pretty sure I know who this OP is. It’s that polished gem comics from eBay. See it makes sense. They are cracking out the cases and upselling books raw, but has been doing it so much he began to believe his story. He decided to submit his bone white original owner book and it got hammered and now he can’t figure out why it’s grade is so low and ow/w to boot Edited June 13, 2020 by oldbsturgeon Jokes need explaining I guess? mattn792 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-Collector Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 On 6/7/2020 at 1:48 AM, The Lions Den said: This can also occur due to the specific invoice itself... Interesting. Can you elaborate? The Lions Den 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-Collector Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 On 6/12/2020 at 1:12 AM, seanfingh said: Sorry about that. I found the AI guy's information fascinating, and the ridiculous attempts to shut him up infuriating. Not to be pig-headed but do you mean me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattn792 Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 2 hours ago, oldbsturgeon said: So I am pretty sure I know who this OP is. It’s that polished gem comics from eBay. See it makes sense. They are cracking out the cases and upselling books raw, but has been doing it so much he began to believe his story. He decided to submit his bone white original owner book and it got hammered and now he can’t figure out why it’s grade is so low and ow/w to boot I like the theory but have to disagree - polished gem knows he is selling his raws in a fraudulent manner, getting one of them graded would only hurt the scam. Keys_Collector 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JollyComics Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 On 6/10/2020 at 8:09 AM, Jeffro. said: Mully's back with a new thread for all us mental deficients. Look forward to it. The Lions Den 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanfingh Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 On 6/13/2020 at 7:54 AM, The-Collector said: Not to be pig-headed but do you mean me? Yep. Couldn’t remember your user name. Sorry about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercury Man Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffro. Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 The Lions Den 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lions Den Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 On 6/13/2020 at 7:52 AM, The-Collector said: Interesting. Can you elaborate? Please see page 6...but that's just one scenario. The-Collector 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-Collector Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 4 hours ago, The Lions Den said: Please see page 6...but that's just one scenario. Thank you! Very interesting reading. The Lions Den 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 On 6/12/2020 at 7:27 AM, SirJames1454 said: Many of us probably understand how he feels a wee bit. A few months back, I submitted five of my comics to get graded. Now, to set the story, these comics of mine (and about 99% of all my other ones) that I purchased back in the very early 90's have never been opened or read. At that time, I went to the comic book store and the owner allowed me to carefully hand pick the comics out of his just arrived shipment of new comics. I immediately placed them into a cardboard backed, acid free plastic bag made for comics. I then placed those comics into a comic storage box. I have four long boxes of comics sitting in a humidity controlled (and mostly dark) place in my finished basement for years! Not sure if anything else I could have been done to keep them in more of a pristine condition. After all these years, I thought....why not get a few graded. These things are in mint condition and should get a super high rating of at least 9.8! Why wouldn't they! - (see first part of story above) . You can imagine my surprise when I received them back a couple months later. Two of my Spiderman's were rated at 9.2. Vamperella #1 was rated at 9.2, Spawn #1 rated at 9.4 and another Spiderman rated at 9.6. I read the notes (i.e. "faults") that they associated with each of the comics and tried my best to find them. I honestly can say that I might have found one of the "issues", but I sure as hell couldn't find any of the others! But, I guess its the luck of the draw (and someones opinion that day), so to speak. Am I a bit bummed that they were not graded higher? Sure, who wouldn't be. Do I believe they should be rated higher? In my opinion...yup. But, watcha' gonna' do. It didn't deter me from sending in another five comics two months ago (waiting on results). Kinda' feels like buying some scratch off tickets. You may be a bit disappointed after the first one is scratched, but hoping the next ones better. If you're newer to grading, just FYI, this (bolded) means literally nothing. Most comics hot off the shelf are around 9.4 grade. And, yes, grading is very subjective. You're allowed to disagree with CGC's opinion, and I will not criticize you for it. CGC isn't perfect. The Lions Den and Deadpoolica 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike's Rack Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 What ever happened to the guy that thought he could spot 9.9's and guaranteed that he would have multiple 9.9's in each submission? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExNihilo Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 So I've missed TWO threads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lions Den Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 On 6/12/2020 at 7:27 AM, SirJames1454 said: Many of us probably understand how he feels a wee bit. A few months back, I submitted five of my comics to get graded. Now, to set the story, these comics of mine (and about 99% of all my other ones) that I purchased back in the very early 90's have never been opened or read. At that time, I went to the comic book store and the owner allowed me to carefully hand pick the comics out of his just arrived shipment of new comics. I immediately placed them into a cardboard backed, acid free plastic bag made for comics. I then placed those comics into a comic storage box. I have four long boxes of comics sitting in a humidity controlled (and mostly dark) place in my finished basement for years! Not sure if anything else I could have been done to keep them in more of a pristine condition. After all these years, I thought....why not get a few graded. These things are in mint condition and should get a super high rating of at least 9.8! Why wouldn't they! - (see first part of story above) . You can imagine my surprise when I received them back a couple months later. Two of my Spiderman's were rated at 9.2. Vamperella #1 was rated at 9.2, Spawn #1 rated at 9.4 and another Spiderman rated at 9.6. I read the notes (i.e. "faults") that they associated with each of the comics and tried my best to find them. I honestly can say that I might have found one of the "issues", but I sure as hell couldn't find any of the others! But, I guess its the luck of the draw (and someones opinion that day), so to speak. Am I a bit bummed that they were not graded higher? Sure, who wouldn't be. Do I believe they should be rated higher? In my opinion...yup. But, watcha' gonna' do. It didn't deter me from sending in another five comics two months ago (waiting on results). Kinda' feels like buying some scratch off tickets. You may be a bit disappointed after the first one is scratched, but hoping the next ones better. "Isn't it a pity, isn't it a shame, no one ever warned the boy, slabbing comics is a vicious game..." jimjum12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artboy99 Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 On 6/12/2020 at 5:27 AM, SirJames1454 said: Many of us probably understand how he feels a wee bit. A few months back, I submitted five of my comics to get graded. Now, to set the story, these comics of mine (and about 99% of all my other ones) that I purchased back in the very early 90's have never been opened or read. At that time, I went to the comic book store and the owner allowed me to carefully hand pick the comics out of his just arrived shipment of new comics. I immediately placed them into a cardboard backed, acid free plastic bag made for comics. I then placed those comics into a comic storage box. I have four long boxes of comics sitting in a humidity controlled (and mostly dark) place in my finished basement for years! Not sure if anything else I could have been done to keep them in more of a pristine condition. After all these years, I thought....why not get a few graded. These things are in mint condition and should get a super high rating of at least 9.8! Why wouldn't they! - (see first part of story above) . You can imagine my surprise when I received them back a couple months later. Two of my Spiderman's were rated at 9.2. Vamperella #1 was rated at 9.2, Spawn #1 rated at 9.4 and another Spiderman rated at 9.6. I read the notes (i.e. "faults") that they associated with each of the comics and tried my best to find them. I honestly can say that I might have found one of the "issues", but I sure as hell couldn't find any of the others! But, I guess its the luck of the draw (and someones opinion that day), so to speak. Am I a bit bummed that they were not graded higher? Sure, who wouldn't be. Do I believe they should be rated higher? In my opinion...yup. But, watcha' gonna' do. It didn't deter me from sending in another five comics two months ago (waiting on results). Kinda' feels like buying some scratch off tickets. You may be a bit disappointed after the first one is scratched, but hoping the next ones better. buy several already graded books in the grades you desire and study them and compare them to your books. Books purchased brand new at a comic store are not necessarily 9.8's. Take the time to learn how to grade, then in the future when you submit your books you have a better chance of getting the grades you want. theCapraAegagrus and The Lions Den 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Ries Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Artboy99 said: buy several already graded books in the grades you desire and study them and compare them to your books. Books purchased brand new at a comic store are not necessarily 9.8's. Take the time to learn how to grade, then in the future when you submit your books you have a better chance of getting the grades you want. I collect comic books because I love them. I buy CGC or CBCS graded and slabbed for the most part. I don’t HAVE to have the highest graded books. I draw the line around 7.0 or so and there are some 7.0 grades that look better than some 9.0’s. I bought all the Adams Strange Adventures in SS except one because I can't find that issue in SS They all hover between 7.0-8.5 and for the life of me don't know why they have been graded so low. But good for me because they are quite attractive and I bought them at an undergraded price. I have seen CGC graded 9.4’s that have no business being graded that high just for the cover appearance alone. When I buy a slabbed book, that’s basically what I’m buying. The cover and its appearance. I’m buying books I had when I was a kid. I love the books and have no real intention of selling them regardless what I’ve told my wife. LOL! I will buy raw books as well because most sellers factor in the CGC grading/slabbing process into their pricing. Which is kinda BS. They are inflating the value of the book only because it HAS been graded. In most cases, the seller didn’t shell out to have the thing graded so it’s a sellers premium for them. I collect for the love of the book and while the value has something to do Add image.with it, it isn't the driver that causes me to purchase them. Edited June 16, 2020 by Randall Ries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
