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The Distribution of US Published Comics in the UK (1959~1982)
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Just for fun, here are the tables for the first ten 1-9 cycles for Action Comics only.

Click to enlarge, and the numbers in the brackets are the number of issues I have captured with the same stamp. 

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If we ignore the first cycle stamp 6 (possibly late second cycle books), and start with stamp 8, the first issue captured is #258 (November 1959), the last one #336 (April 1966). That represents:

  • 78 consecutive issues
  • 78 cover months
  • 83 stamps

That's reasonably close, and supports the monthly stamp / shipment cycle theory.

The spread of issues starts off quite consistently and then starts to drift around the eighth cycle with lots of missed months and bunching. If we take the 9th cycle as a fictional, literal 9 month period, then the experience in the newsagent would have been:

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  1. Action #322 :)
  2. Action #323 :)
  3. Action #324 :)
  4. Nothing  :eek:
  5. Action #325 (new and old style 10d stamps) :)
  6. Action #326 / 327 :)
  7. Nothing :eek:
  8. Action #328 :)
  9. Action #329 :)

Seven issues over a possible 9 month period. I found 9 examples of Action #328 with an 8 stamp. No issues with a 7 stamp. So again, if translated literally in monthly shipment cycles, there would have been months where you couldn't get a latest Action (:eek:). 

I did this all the way up to cycle 18 for Action and will try to post the rest later. The learning from this for me, just for this title as an illustration, is:

  • From the off, the issues run broadly consecutive with the stamp numbers, supporting the monthly shipment theory
  • It starts to degrade around cycle 8 - approximately 4 to 5 years into the process, around 1964/5
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...and the other eight cycles for Action Comics.

Five issues over nine stamps:
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Five issues over nine stamps:
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Fifteen issues over nine stamps (six in stamp 8 alone):
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Nothing for the first three stamps!
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They've give up!:
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In the eight cycles above we have:

  • Issues 337-388 (52)
  • May 1966 - May 1970 (49 months)
  • 52 stamps

52 stamps for 52 issues over 49 calendar months - still broadly tracking but with gaps and bunching all over. 

Why did it get worse instead of better? If the above eight cycle tables are in any way illustrative of actual sequential monthly shipments, then the kids would be going nuts - no issues for months on end then six arrive in one go!

Logic says that the numbering lost it's link to monthly UK issue arrivals long before the tracking shown in these tables. Either that or it was a rotten time to be collecting sequential comics.

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@Malacoda Rich, there's eighteen plotted 1-9 cycles there for DC's Action Comics covering ten years of the title. 149 stamps within an 127 month window.

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Can you see in any of that where your industry knowledge fits?

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The above period in days by the way, from Nov 59 to May 70 is 3,863. Divide that by the 149 stamps and that's one stamp (shipment?) roughly every 26 days. 

Anyone bored yet? :bigsmile:

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The above period in days by the way, from Nov 59 to May 70 is 3,863. Divide that by the 149 stamps and that's one stamp (shipment?) roughly every 26 days. 

Anyone bored yet? :bigsmile:

 

Today I'm the Chairman of the Bored, hence my mucking about here instead of doing something useful. 

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and that's one stamp (shipment?) roughly every 26 days. 

So perhaps things actually happened every 4 weeks rather than a precise monthly cycle so sometimes comics ended up in the next batch?

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On 6/14/2022 at 6:17 PM, themagicrobot said:

Today I'm the Chairman of the Bored, hence my mucking about here instead of doing something useful. 

It's about time we had a Bored Meeting, Chairman. Can I take the minutes? 

On 6/14/2022 at 6:17 PM, themagicrobot said:

So perhaps things actually happened every 4 weeks rather than a precise monthly cycle so sometimes comics ended up in the next batch?

That would be 40,320. Minutes, I mean. 

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On 6/14/2022 at 6:17 PM, themagicrobot said:

So perhaps things actually happened every 4 weeks rather than a precise monthly cycle so sometimes comics ended up in the next batch?

Mebbe. Being returns, it stands to reason that books would straddle shipments. The overlaps went a bit wild in the end though, so something changed after five years of reasonable sequencing.

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@Malacoda Rich liked my table posts so he's read them Robot @themagicrobot. I can feel a tidal wave of a post brewing.

Can you feel it....? :bigsmile:

 

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On 6/14/2022 at 10:44 AM, Get Marwood & I said:

It's about time we had a Bored Meeting, Chairman. Can I take the minutes? 

That would be 40,320. Minutes, I mean. 

Before we let you take the minutes we need to know where you plan to take them.  Goodness knows you’ve taken the rest of this thread all sorts of weird and interesting places.

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On 6/14/2022 at 7:02 PM, OtherEric said:

Before we let you take the minutes we need to know where you plan to take them.  Goodness knows you’ve taken the rest of this thread all sorts of weird and interesting places.

Would to task be acceptable? 

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On 6/14/2022 at 7:11 PM, OtherEric said:

I’m slightly suspicious of what task would leave you bored, but I’ll conditionally allow it

I may have to hand that off to the Task Master.

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On 6/14/2022 at 7:20 PM, OtherEric said:

You'll have to either ask Thorpe or Porter, or keep speculating, because none of us are sure yet...

Asking Porter might be tough, not being an actual person. Thorpe too though, not being alive.

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On 6/14/2022 at 7:56 PM, themagicrobot said:

I really want to know what is going on here....

Let me take a guess, a wild stab in the dark.......

Goodies win, baddies lose.

Just a hunch, could be miles wide of the mark, but you never know.

Let me know if that is what happened, I am on the edge of my seat

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